Spoiler Alert! The Werewolf Is A Metaphor. Staff Picks: The Wolf Of Snow Hollow. Horror Movie Reactions. Werewolf Movie Reaction. (Re-release)

Spoiler Alert! The Werewolf Is A Metaphor. Staff Picks: The Wolf Of Snow Hollow. Horror Movie Reactions. 

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After we talk about some recent headlines, We’re talking about one of my favorite movies in recent years ,  THE WOLF OF SNOW HOLLOW.  (original blog here)

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A stressed-out police officer struggles not to give in to the paranoia that grips his small mountain town as bodies turn up after each full moon. I WOULD ADD THAT WEREWOLF FEVER GRIPS EVERYONE INCLUDING THE POLICE.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:02

I just said, I did go out and see the saw movie. Didn't catch the Jason state.

Speaker 2: 0:06

There's a Saab movie.

Speaker 1: 0:08

Are you going to be talking about that on the podcast or not? Because it wasn't the best thing I've seen all of that.

Speaker 2: 0:13

Gotcha. So what version, what number is that? Like? Saw nine. Wow.

Speaker 1: 0:22

They're catching up to Friday the 13th at this point. Wow. They're they're working on it only they'll get there soon. Yeah. I mean, cause they used to do faithfully one a year, like Friday used to do. Oh, you were still for a second, John. That was crazy. John was like, yeah.

Speaker 2: 0:37

Cause uh, I don't think they're off the wifi. Like they're supposed to be over this night.

Speaker 1: 0:42

I kind of get my camera to work. So I get you man.

Speaker 2: 0:45

So you said someone well broke up. Like we were caught in a soccer

Speaker 1: 0:50

Box of wine. Oh, pull something cold on ice

Speaker 3: 1:17

[inaudible]

Speaker 2: 1:30

So there's this, uh, podcast award show. And uh, they want us to tell our audience about their awards and uh, but in no way, does it involve us hosting, presenting an award, receiving an award or attending the ceremony and they don't even, they don't even, they don't mention this one bit so. Well that's the thing. So either they, they respect her position in the industry have Googled us or are aware of our presence in the world of podcasting. But we're not good enough to be part of the Sam when he, but by the way, tell your massive following audience. You're plugged in audience about where they can do it into our award show. But your podcast is not involved. Are they offering none whatsoever? Literally nothing. We don't want you to be like coming to our party. Adam is a back. Adam's good is a director of cinematography or he's an okay writer, but he can not act. So he had already heard the story about the podcast awards and that was him throwing in. Hey yeah. I told the group, I told the group in messenger. It's pretty much

Speaker 1: 2:46

You shot the thing, Adam. And then, uh, yeah. We're not going to give you credit. Okay. Yeah,

Speaker 2: 2:51

No. It's like, they're having a party and they're like, there's a party going on. We need you to promote the party, but you're not invited to the party. Yeah. So the other way I can relate it is like this, like, okay. So we're like the dark horse of podcasting. So like of course it's mentioned us this massive horse race right in the Valley or something. And like all these horses are there. There's like 10 stallions and they go, Oh yeah, look at that. Horse is pretty. That one's handsome. That one's a sure thing over there. What's this one over here. Oh yeah. Look at that horse. Oh yeah. That horse is the one that's going to win. No, no, listen, that horse is here every week. Oh, it runs pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. That horse is here. Every weekend runs pretty well. Then 10 races later, the other horses are getting tired. The handsome one. Yeah. He looks good, but he lost the race. The other one, the pretty one. Whatever. They lost the race too. But they're good at autographs. This one, this son of a over here, he's been running 10 races. Still not tired and then wins. The race is Adam said, but he got to the punchline before I did, but yeah,

Speaker 4: 3:48

Screwed up. That's like asking the nerd like, Hey, there's this cool party tonight. Can you hand out flyers? You can't come out flyers.

Speaker 2: 3:55

You know what it's like? It's like Zach Morris asking you to do his homework so we can pass it.

Speaker 4: 3:59

Yeah. But he doesn't want to hang with you at the peach pit or what was the peach guy you're mixing up your nineties. Oh my gosh. Max, the max. That's what it is my bad

Speaker 2: 4:14

Anyway. And so that's like a podcast or no mix it, mix it up. Your references there. The other no-no is I had sent out this limited edition, uh, King Kong, 76, Jeff Bridges. Special edition DVD that they just kicked out from a wasn't shout factory. Dave. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so what's funny is they've already sold out on Amazon and some other places I saw people were already throwing that up online for like 70 bucks. We paid$25 a piece. I sent them to the whole crew and then, uh, Nick already popped his open, was watching it and sending us little videos. And then you said, why is this movie twice? As long as I remember. And I was like, Oh yeah. So you forgot when we were, when we had it as a news story, we were talking about how they had the, uh, extended, lost TV broadcast. Yeah. They only broadcast one time. So it's on there.

Speaker 4: 5:01

It was actually kind of a cool movie, to be honest with you. I actually liked it, but it was very dramatic compared to the modern Kong. It was very like with John Berry's score, it's very, very intensive.

Speaker 2: 5:13

This is my favorite King Kong though. This is what that one's my, this 76 is my favorite King

Speaker 4: 5:19

So I can see why thirties one. Yes. Oh, I give the 30 ones.

Speaker 2: 5:25

So I give, I give the original, the original credit for being the thing that kicked it off. But it's not my favorite version of King Kong.

Speaker 4: 5:31

I mean, as of right now, the, the old school one is still my favorite, but I haven't even seen the 76 one. So as soon as it comes in

Speaker 2: 5:38

That's cause you like your gorillas a little goofy. That's what I do. I got it. But I haven't

Speaker 4: 5:45

Cracked it open yet. The blueberry, it looks really full by that dude. I, I I'm being on home media. It's people will and just put

Speaker 5: 5:58

It up there like, Oh, somebody is going to buy it for that price. Except it's not worth that much. It's already on the market. You can go buy it. It's not out of print. It's just trying to fool somebody into thinking, Oh, you can't buy it right now. No, you can.

Speaker 2: 6:12

The first run the first run, the first printing sold out and like sold out on certain vendors like Amazon.

Speaker 5: 6:18

Okay. So here's the thing. Cause I didn't keep up with home media. A lot. People are nuts about slip cases. The, the cardboard sleeves that go on things. They're like, they'll, if they'll buy it later, like, Oh, does it have the car? Does it have the slip case? Oh, if it doesn't have the slip case, I don't want it. I'm like, why is this movie? Cause collector? It's what the collector's market decide. That's like, it's weird. Like collectors markets will decide, but this is worth something because it's cool looking. I don't know.

Speaker 1: 6:45

That's weird, huh? Well, Hey it does.

Speaker 5: 6:48

They're the least important thing anymore. It's weird.

Speaker 1: 6:51

I just opened it up. I put it in that three hour movie and I was like, wow, this thing's long.

Speaker 5: 6:57

If you will, if you went right now, you could go put list that slip case on eBay for like five bucks and somebody will buy it off of you. I'm not even joking. I'll just flip case then

Speaker 1: 7:07

Just so, but no, anybody

Speaker 5: 7:09

Who is selling it for 70 bucks, doesn't, they're just trying to like full somebody into thinking that it's worth that, right? Yeah,

Speaker 1: 7:14

No.

Speaker 6: 7:18

Yeah. They're setting a price and seeing the market will respond to it. But I guess the question is you check completed listings and you'll get all the green ones. And if it's on for, you know, 50 bucks and maybe it's a deal

Speaker 1: 7:30

At the end of the day, I would say collect, collect it, keep it, you know?

Speaker 2: 7:36

Yeah. If you get a DVD yet you got three choices. Calissa.

Speaker 1: 7:40

The blueberry looks really clean. Actually the blue rate is so clean that I could tell the flaws in the green screen, it's pretty fascinating. Be like, wow, but it was 1977. I get it. But there are a lot of flaws.

Speaker 6: 7:52

I'm sorry, Nick. I'm going to have to correct you on that. Uh, they didn't use green screen or no

Speaker 1: 8:02

[inaudible] dude totally caught me. Yeah. No, that was good. Thank you for it. Actually. Thank you. Audience members would have been like, dude, what? An idiot. Yeah, totally. They wouldn't say that. They'd

Speaker 6: 8:12

Be mad at me for correcting, you

Speaker 1: 8:15

Know? So, uh, so, uh, so John, what happened last week?

Speaker 2: 8:28

I feel like I should stop this stream and it started another one. No, this is, this is great. I love the car. Jim's going to give us another one-star where it's coming. Drags. When it's dragging, there's too much dead air, but yeah, you're the Q guy. You're the Q guy. I'm a trained monkey. If I don't get the banana, I'm not going to do anything. You know what I'm saying? I was just so excited talking about calling. Yeah, sure. Uh, my name is captain Kirk, by the way, look at mouth Adam. He's talking over tonight. What's funny is I'm going to mention Adam in like two seconds. The best part of the last week's episode to me was Adam for getting the definition of a staff pick, even though we've recommended to the audience and it was going to be nominated as a staff pick. And it was his week to check, to present a movie as the staff pick. And then we spent like a good 10 or 15 minutes, like razzing him. It was all playful. It was good fun that that made it, that made the episode for me. So

Speaker 4: 9:27

Yeah, actually, you know what? That kind of works because that reminds me of like bullshitting in a video store. Like what the hell? Why would you pick that? Or like, I don't know. I just remember those days of like, if you liked the movie that nobody else liked, everybody bragged on you. If you

Speaker 2: 9:40

Did a video store. Yeah. Well that's why I'm worried about tonight's movie because on tonight's show, we're finally getting around to a movie that like is one of my favorite from last year, the Wolf, a snow hollow. So stick around after these home video headlines, we've got our favorite bits. Our staff picks for tonight and coming attractions on tonight's episode of binge-watched podcast. And in case you missed it before, here's a video

Speaker 4: 10:02

Crack, open a cold box of wine. Oh, pull something code on ice, eats them

Speaker 3: 10:30

[inaudible].

Speaker 2: 10:43

And the reason I played it again was because the lead up was supposed to get us right here in a more timely fashion. And we were kind of all distracted. And I was like, Oh, if I play the music right now, maybe we'll get into the show and the internet. And you didn't know it was being a little wacky at the top. So who, God knows what they heard at the beginning. Who knows. Um, okay. Let's read some headlines. Let's see what's going on. So to bring it on is coming back. If you remember the cheerleader series of comedies from the, was it the nineties early two thousands?

Speaker 4: 11:14

It was like nine or 10. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 11:16

Yeah. So like Kesha does was in the earliest one, but we actually know one of the creators of the new one. They're doing a Saifai Halloween horror films. So it's bringing on Halloween, it's going to be on Spotify channels. Wow.

Speaker 4: 11:29

Is it genuinely going to be made as a horror movie or is this like, Oh, it's bring it on in costume.

Speaker 2: 11:35

Well, the person that we know that's involved in the project, she's like a diehard horror fan and she actually is like a professor of horror films. So, and she's made a couple of horror films and she's, she, she was part of, uh Fangoria is a podcast, uh, company then got moved over to, I don't know if she's on the new Fangoria or where her podcast is, but anyway, uh, so, so yeah, so we may be able to talk to her about this movie, but it's just kind of interesting because like those movies are about cheerleaders. They're comedies about rivalries between rivalry rivalries, between cheerleaders. Um, fascinating. Hmm, you, Adam. And the movies are hilarious. All right. The next

Speaker 5: 12:23

One is I haven't seen any past the first one.

Speaker 2: 12:26

Oh, that's too bad. Uh, adult swim is producing some feature length films for equity and hunger fours, venture brothers, a Metalocalypse. We're just going to get released on HBO. Max what's. I brought this headline up because I wanted to see if Dave and Adam will get into a little TIFF because they have a huge disagreement about at least Metalocalypse. I don't know what they say about having feature length versions of the other shows venture brothers is kind of like a spoof on Johnny quest cartoons and, uh, Aqua teen hunger force is about a, literally a meatball that talks a pair of French fries that talk like a box of French fries that talks and a milkshake and their landlord lives next door. And he's like a, uh, Carl,

Speaker 5: 13:09

The voice actor for me, what I can do that

Speaker 2: 13:12

Kenya. Can you do that? That was really good. He's just like an innocent, like an innocent child that gets his hand on a yet, you know, like a Glock 45. He's like a child with loaded guns. That's what that means. What is that's pretty good. Wow. That's what he would hold you up for. Candy is what he would do. Isn't cancelable

Speaker 5: 13:44

Just throwing that out there. I don't think so because he was always the idiot. He was always played as an idiot. I think you can get away with that stuff.

Speaker 2: 13:52

Idiot. We're old Carl. So if he canceled Carl, you all humanity, I'm not advocating. He gets canceled. I'm just saying like, um, where am I going with this? Oh, Metalocalypse. So the third one that they're going to produce a feature like movie out is about like, if Motley crew had the power to save the world or destroy it, it's like a, a bunch of supernatural happenings occur around a super famous metal band called death lock, right? Oh no, no, no, no, that'd be cool. Tara or something

Speaker 5: 14:28

Metallica. Like they were like, I always saw it. It was like based off of the Metallica documentary, where they were in like couples therapy and all that kind of Mo or some kind of atmosphere that was like,

Speaker 2: 14:39

It's a good documentary. They also record an album at the bottom of the ocean. Right.

Speaker 5: 14:45

Two full albums off of the show. And they're actually really good metal albums. Like they, they actually put effort into like

Speaker 4: 14:52

Making good, like solid music.

Speaker 2: 14:54

Well that's because the creator is the creator of also that cartoon home videos. And it's about him making movies in grade school. I love his shawls. I think his name is Brendan smalls, but he's a real musician. That's why, so his music is actually brilliant. Yeah. Pretty decent. Um, but Adam doesn't like the cartoon. Yeah. I never got it. It didn't resonate with me.

Speaker 4: 15:18

Like I was saying in our, in our chat, it was like, it's made for metal heads are people who love metal, but know that metal heads are idiots because like they clearly play up the anybody who like the they're all idiots. Like no, but nobody in that group is smart.

Speaker 2: 15:32

Rabid fandom. Like all the fans are getting killed and don't care. Their skin gets pulled off. They don't care. They get lit on fire with the band. The band at one point raises like an ancient troll from like Sweden or something because they read a spell is one of those.

Speaker 4: 15:46

That sounds amazing. My favorite episode is actually the rocks of the clown.

Speaker 2: 15:52

They know a clown who reminds me of that. Yeah. It's a little bit like the clown that what's his name played Bobcat. Goldthwait won't shake.

Speaker 4: 16:00

It's supposed to be a rough on David Lee Roth.

Speaker 2: 16:03

Really? Okay. Because it's like, it's like his clown I'm like in Bobcat. Uh, yeah. Yeah. I'm looking forward to Aqua teen hunger force and venture brothers. There's this other website that does some movie related stuff. And they've been, uh, trying to get James Gunn to attention on Twitter with their articles or whatever, or maybe he just happened to read their articles. So they're pretty good. But they were writing something about like, Oh, here's the seven people that we think are going to die and the new suicide squad. And then they publish another article. Um, James Gunn says almost every suicide squad, two character dies. And then it's because James tweeted, he tweeted back to them. This is very optimistic to say the least in suggestions with their seven characters that die. So they're kind of speculating that, Oh, every single member or most like 90% of the suicide squad is destined to die in this movie, which would be right. Would you be on brand? You know, it'd be, yeah,

Speaker 4: 16:57

Yeah. I have a new characters in, right. Yeah. I have a theory. I can, I have a theory that the opening, like before the titles, I think it's going to be like 15 minutes of like set up, like here's this character. And then like, and then going to die in the first 15 minutes and you're dead. Note the hell out of them in the trailer and the promotions. They're going to run wild with the, uh, I'm going to say John scene is going to die.

Speaker 2: 17:25

Well, the Deadpool joke, you know, and Deadpool to where he gets X-Force together. And X-Force is only in the movie for like five minutes. Spoiler alert.

Speaker 4: 17:32

Well like that part of group where like all the people are bad, it gets exploded. I love that movie. It's such an unreal. So good. So good.

Speaker 2: 17:42

You know, what else has what's up when you say spoiler alert after the spoiler? That's also good. Yeah. That's on for us. That's how I

Speaker 4: 17:50

Know. I know.

Speaker 6: 17:53

Appreciate it. Like, Hey guys, we're alert after.

Speaker 2: 17:56

Yeah. Yeah. And then some late breaking news that we what's funny is I left a, a space in the notes. We send these guys notes every week and we send them to each other about like prep time and like things we want to touch on and like whatever could dare to before. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I left a bullet open because I was like, Oh, we'll have some extra news that Nick will bring. Or Adam or Dave will mention the story, like five minutes before the show, Dave and I at the same time read the article about like, Oh, Amazon is going to buy the MGM catalog. And I feel like scribbling it into our notes as fast as I can

Speaker 4: 18:35

Just MGM own bond bond. Right.

Speaker 2: 18:39

Uh,

Speaker 4: 18:43

Amazon so much stuff. Yeah. Amazon

Speaker 6: 18:49

Is purchasing that from Sony, right.

Speaker 4: 18:52

Because Sony doesn't own, the rights to MGM are really confused.

Speaker 2: 18:57

Just keep going. I got some background I got to deal with. Okay.

Speaker 4: 19:00

You guys, I think you might be right. But like the history of ownership of MGM is swanky. Cause I know like for awhile, uh, Warner brothers had a big part and I think they still own a big part of their catalog. And then like Fox was in it for nine artists, artists also. Yeah. They that's part of that.

Speaker 6: 19:20

I'm totally confused. I thought that the MGM studio would hold the majority of the IP, but I guess it just splintered out to a bunch of different stuff. But if Sony isn't the main holder of MGM, did Amazon really buy all the MGM? If they're dealing with a bunch of different people?

Speaker 4: 19:36

I, I just, I don't honestly know the history of like MGM is really confusing. Cause like after the nineties, when they weren't doing so hot yeah. For awhile, everything like, like MGM was a big dogs for while they bought that's how they got the Orion catalog, they got like the Hemdale catalog determinator. Like they got a bunch of stuff, you know, at some point. And then so now whoever owns MGM owns all that stuff, you know, that's all right. That's a good market.

Speaker 2: 20:06

Nobody has literally said their energy's off. You know, Adam had a difficult phone call. Dave said he was falling asleep. Next camera wouldn't work. I had, I had invading sound. I had to go deal with crazy nights so far. Those are headlines folks. Just another Monday. Yeah. Um, let's go to some, uh, some special offers. We don't have any official ads, but we have some offers that are still open, special offers to listeners that you can still take advantage of. Um, yeah, you can always get a free trial stars. There's a link on our website. I'll put it in the show notes as well. Free week on stars, movies, check out what they're doing. You can watch acorn TV for free for 30 days. Actually you can check out the BBC and beyond has all across the board, their killer mysteries and go shows and some comedies, whatever. What have you, um, real paper.com. If you need to order that paper, it's 25% off with our code binge Watchers. It's the name of our show? Go to real paper.com and get your toilet paper fix. All right, 25% off. You can get three months of Amazon music unlimited, which is our premium music service by going to get Amazon music.com forward slash binge Watchers. Somebody burped, you know, they're listening to Amazon music. We talked about Brendan smells earlier. You can go and listen to the Metalocalypse albums. I'm sure were on there. I think, I mean, 70 million shows can't be wrong. All right. That's it for the messages. And now back to our podcast, which never stopped being in progress, even though I was gone for like two minutes. Um, can I expect your presentation, the Wolf of snow hollow. It's about a stressed out police officer who struggles not to give into the paranoia and the grips of small mountain town and bodies turn up after each full moon. And I would also add that where we're fever actually extends to the police officers themselves. Yeah. And then, uh, Dave, I hope you brought the thunder tonight because this is a good movie brother. What else can you tell us about the filmmakers or the movie or whatever.

Speaker 5: 22:04

All right. So I think maybe we should say this now. So people don't have to rewind in here at any from this point on out, I guess spoiler alert, because this is a fairly new

Speaker 1: 22:12

Yeah. And you definitely need to spoil this movie to kind of talk about it, but definitely go watch it guys, if you haven't. I, I swear my life.

Speaker 2: 22:20

I mean, I kept my mouth, my trap shut for like almost a year and I sent it, I said, this may or may not include a werewolf may or may not actually good voltage one way and yeah.

Speaker 1: 22:32

Yeah. But, but spoilers, this was my favorite movie of last year. Let's just say that, go watch this movie please.

Speaker 5: 22:38

So I do have some facts going for this. So this is actually only the second feature for a writer, director, actor, Jim Cummings, he's full package. And his first movie was thunder road, which was like just the year before this came out. And I highly suggest that one I've actually watched that a much different movie, but very good. Um, this is the final role for actor Robert Forrester. And of course the movie was dedicated to him at the end. Um, yeah. So the producer, Matt Miller actually sent the script to foresters agent having worked with him on another project and the director Cummings, uh, Jim Cummings actually thought he was going to say no, but Forrester actually accepted the role because he thought of it as a dramatic movie about a father, son, relationship and complications of age and health. So even though there's John rhe elements, he saw past that and saw like the core of the story. Um, unfortunately this movie was the victim of COVID and it was going to be released in theaters and it did get released in some theaters, but it only made like a quarter of a million worldwide because of everything. So this could have been like a pretty decent sized hit if it got actually got a big release. Right.

Speaker 1: 23:41

I think it was like April or may or March or something. It was

Speaker 5: 23:46

Like right in the beginning of COVID. Right? Like when they were shooting at all, actually I thought it was yeah.

Speaker 2: 23:52

Work in the PR for this movie. Pretty hard. I wrote a blog article. I got the three apples on the show to watch this movie. I bought them a copy of the movie because I was like, you'd have to watch it no matter what peel your eyes open, like the treatment on at other movie, what's that British movie Kubrick where they have to make you yeah. They force your eyes open and that's guaranteed to make you love a movie is having to force you to watch it over and over again, like an English class assignment. Right. So, and then Dave didn't think the metaphor stuck. So I wouldn't watch the voodoo special. I hope it's the same documentary that's on the DVD. Yeah. You said you missed an important, like I said, that wasn't

Speaker 5: 24:32

Production fact that is in the movie. That is an inter, that is in the movie.

Speaker 2: 24:38

I played the[inaudible] there's a, there's a behind the scenes clip. Okay. I'll say my piece. And then Dave can have his retort. Okay. So there's a behind the scenes clip of the director talking about the production. And he was explaining the similarities between how somebody goes through alcoholism and treatment and the 30 day cycle of the werewolf, where the werewolf is going to wake up and have guilt over what happened. It may not be aware of what happened while they weren't aware of formula, then comes back and on the human side has to deal with the fallout and was relating that to, uh, the alcoholics process. And I was like, yeah, it's a great metaphor. And it makes sense. You watch the movie that clicks. And the director was talking about it as part of his design for the movie. And, and Dave was like, why watch the special features? And I didn't, that didn't come across to me or that part didn't stick out. And then I'm like, I've, I was certain that I saw it and I didn't make it up. So then I went to the voodoo features and then I sent him a little video. I recorded me playing the director's interview. Now here's his retort. I'll even turn my mic off you. This is Dave skirt.

Speaker 5: 25:46

Okay. So I think there might be some confusion over saying, I agree with that. I get that. What we were talking about is you're saying to put that into the facts of the show, but that is not a production fact. That is something that's in the movie. And I didn't actually need to see that that is very well played out within the movie. When I'm looking for facts. I want something that I can not get from the narrative itself like this in twice in the movie at meetings, he made mentions about the beast inside and how alcoholism can bring that beast out. So within the narrative that fat that is already given, I didn't need to see a featurette to get somebody to tell me that that'd be like us having a discussion of citizen Kane and me going, Hey, did you know that the sled was that Rosebud was the sled. I got that from the movie. That's why you don't need to add say that again. You know, that's how I feel. So I agree with all that, but it wasn't a production fact. You get that from the movie.

Speaker 1: 26:44

Brilliant cover David. No, it was good. And now we lost John John mutant.

Speaker 2: 26:58

Okay. So my final thought here's my final thought is, uh, I don't know if we're saying the same thing or we're not on the same wavelength or something, but I'm saying like, what I'm talking about is the audience may not know what the filmmaker intends to do. And the filmmaker said he intentionally was touching in on something. And so to bring it to their attention, I think is okay to include and our trivia or information about the film segment. But Dave thinks it's supposed to be like, maybe these hidden nuggets that nobody else can find or would be like, if you went to a trivia night, like, Hey, do you know this extra little, you know, did you know that the, the crying lady at the train station was the director sister? You know what I mean? Not, not that, not that you know, that, that her crying was, you know, a metaphor for something else or whatever. But like,

Speaker 5: 27:46

I think that's like a topic of discussion. Yeah. Like I think we can talk about that. Cause I do agree with it. I, I do see the metaphor and I picked that up in the movies narrative, because like I said, twice in AA meetings, he makes the illusion of the beast coming out through alcohol.

Speaker 2: 28:00

Brilliant. And the second thing I was going to say before I realized that I was still muted was, yeah, we're going to go to our favorite bits and we always start with Nick and work our way to add them. So Nikki lates, what's your favorite bit from the Wolf?

Speaker 1: 28:22

Well, you guys have been talking about a lot of other things. So I'm going to go to my favorite bit is I thought this was going to be a werewolf movie now. And I didn't know it was going to be a guy in a werewolf costume.

Speaker 2: 28:32

And now Nick is muted for a second because I'm going to meet you too. Don't say, Oh my gosh. All right. Now both Nick and Adam are muted because, because, because Nick brought to everybody's attention that we haven't gotten to the movie yet, instead of just going right into what he thought about the movie, he wants to make sure that everybody knows just how sideways his episode has gone.

Speaker 1: 28:53

Oh, it's as wild as the movie.

Speaker 2: 28:56

All right, Nick. Now it's your turn. I've always

Speaker 1: 28:58

Spoiled the movie earlier. I don't know. What am I supposed to say? What do you mean?

Speaker 2: 29:03

I don't know what

Speaker 1: 29:05

To tell you. And you mean to me, my favorite bit was that it was supposed to, I thought it was a werewolf movie and it wasn't a werewolf, I guess. Yeah. There's already your expectations. It diverted to my expectations. Yes.

Speaker 2: 29:21

That's a wrap guys. There's nothing else to really talk about now that he said that.

Speaker 1: 29:25

Yeah. Werewolf, we spoiled it though. When we said no colon it, right? Yeah. All right. Who's next?

Speaker 5: 29:35

Okay. So, um, Oh man, I don't know. This movie is so, uh, I've got a few favorite, but I'll just focus on, um, there's a montage in the beginning. Um, first of all, this movie is 84 minutes and it feels like an Epic, like they pack a lot into this movie. Um, but the, but the first, I don't know, there's the first montage when he's first starting to investigate and this guy's performance, Jim Cummings is the main, the main actor. Like you see on his face, like the moment he meets with his ex-wife and then for the next five minutes, it's just like a montage of frustration. And like, I just, I deal with anger issues myself and, you know, to get real, but not too real, but like I just, I saw on his face, like I S I know that inner frustration of like holding it together. Like you just want to tear somebody's head off, you know? So like that, that guy's performance. And then the montage, the frustration is just like rings so true to anybody who just wants to tell everybody to off and leave me alone. Kind of a thing, Adam,

Speaker 6: 30:36

Uh, well, you know, this was a werewolf movie. I don't know what movie Nick was watching.

Speaker 1: 30:46

[inaudible] my point. Got muted,

Speaker 6: 30:54

Power being used judiciously. I love it. Okay. So what I loved about this movie is that the movies performances feel real. This is not a genre movie. This is a regular movie that happens to be a genre movie, not a genre movie. That's trying to be a real movie. It, the performances were grounded. They felt realistic. The relationships I believed in, I thought I was watching as if I were actually in the scene. So that aside I, something I love a lot in the movie is when he's, he's reached this point, it's supposed to be, we've supposed to, I've already reached a resolution and he's been over at some guy's house. And he says the wrong thing. And he asked him to stand up. I love that part of the movie. And, and, and that little I watched, I went back and I watched it three times just to be like, is that as good as I just felt like it was? And every time I watched it, it was just as good. Uh, it was just that real turn of, I know. And, you know, and I dunno, it was good. And, uh,

Speaker 5: 32:00

His reaction in that moment is, is great. The cop. Cause he's just like, yeah, like it's just like such a subtle moment. It's not granted yet.

Speaker 6: 32:09

Jim Cummings is so brilliant. He's able to downplay things in the right way in the, in the, in a realistic way. Right. And so I think, uh, with further viewings of the film, I'm going to see more about what he's doing and, and get more out of it every time. And that's, that's the sign of it being like, I want to D I just want to say it's a real film, you know, you know what I mean? I'm not saying like, somebody makes it,

Speaker 1: 32:34

That's what I was trying to say before I got muted. I was never able to get

Speaker 4: 32:40

That point across because they got nice cover Nick.

Speaker 5: 32:44

No, again, I'm going to keep saying it as many times. I might have to buy you guys copies to get you to watch it, but it's the first movie thunder road is very much a drama. So like this guy doesn't come from John or roots, so you're right. I mean, I think he just thought of a great story that just so happens to have John or elements. Sure. I liked his look, you know, he's just, he seems like a nice guy, but he gave

Speaker 4: 33:06

Him some normal

Speaker 2: 33:09

Over-prepared for my favorite bits, but I got a whole printout.

Speaker 4: 33:14

Can we, can we talk over here? I want, I want to,

Speaker 2: 33:21

You know what, I'll start off by just tying into what Dave, and, and while all three of you really said, but what Adam said about a feeling like a real situation and what Dave said about the director playing the lead, the horrendous stress that he's under as a sheriff and waiting, that feels very potent. Who's doing a great job in the portrayal and also in the storytelling. Um, but Robert Forrester is great. Playing the retired sheriff was suddenly like overwhelmed with gruesome series of homicides as he has a health problem. He says like dementia or something, right? Oh, like a heart to heart situation. And then, but we didn't talk about the lead female. Detective who's quirky. She's like an introvert, but she has a keen eye and one scene, she puts on her vagina. Her PJ's has a gun tucked into her waistband. And she's eating noodles with chopsticks last study in the crime scene photos, right? Like, let that paint a picture for you. And Ricky went home, who's from knives out. Uh, the camera work reminds me of that movie.[inaudible], it's a really tight claustrophobic, but especially they take a lot of time with the victims, which is really unique. You don't see that in a lot of horror movies, like the ski instructor, right. That gets creeped out by somebody eyeballing her at the ski lodge before she gets killed. And then when it's not claustrophobic, you feel like very distant or isolated from, from what's what's happening, which is really weird. There's two contrasts. Like either you're really intimate or you're really far away, like from the killer's perspective. Like, yes. Um, my favorite scene is probably when the detectives are all sitting together and debating whether or not they're actually experiencing a real werewolf running about town, killing people, because there's like, what four or five detectives at the table. And three of them are convinced that there's a real werewolf in town.

Speaker 4: 35:06

Yeah. Just clean everybody else.

Speaker 5: 35:17

That's what, that's the title of this episode. That's what I was trying to say,

Speaker 4: 35:20

Sad to say, but no one,

Speaker 2: 35:23

Like the, the killer interacts with everybody off screen before they get killed. And like, there's like a curiosity there with the camera. I don't know. But the, also the, everything that happens, the third act seems pretty plausible. I wrote that down as my last note and that I think should watch the movie. I mean, again, I'm doing really hard press on this movie. Like I got paid for it. I'm not, I didn't get paid. Uh, it's not a paramount movie. Um, we don't have any deals on the table. Uh, so, and we're not giving anything away. We don't have. Well, I guess we could theoretically give somebody a copy of this movie if they, if they really wanted it. But that would definitely take like six, five star reviews and not Jim, go yourself, Jim. Uh, not the captain, I guess you clarify Jim, who lives in the UK somewhere, not Jim who made the movie. Cause obviously we love the moon, but they're both named James anyway. Um, what else is going on? I guess we should go back to the rest of my notes here. You know what also metaphorically, what happened to Nick was like, if you're playing little league and somebody took his baseball bat away and he's up to bat. So is that what it felt like? Pretty much. Yeah. It's like, why did I get sidelined? It's all good. Oh, cause you're interrupting. I've got to talk about this other movie. That's coming out from film rise. Um, we got a screener and advanced screener of this movie called drunk bus. So film, film writers is going to release this movie on the 21st. It's about this kid named Michael he's a graduate from college. Recently. He gets his plans, get derailed when his girlfriend leaves him for a job in New York city. And then he gets a job with the bus service as a security guard to watch over the night shift any, he comes face to face with a pineapple 300 pound punk Samoan rocker who challenges him to get his life kicked in the to break up from the loop and start living a risk driving in circles forever. It's like a coming of age story. It wouldn't have a top prize at a film festival recently. And it's got one of the kids from, uh, the movie Ozarks. Um, that's that, that's the mention, uh, after watching this movie, uh, I don't want to relive college and I don't even want to think about college mistakes. Like yeah. The kid is stuck in a rut in this movie. Anybody's going through like what everybody experiences like, I guess in their twenties or whatever it makes me think. Wow. Yeah. I don't know if I like teenagers. I don't know if I like college people, whatever. It definitely like personifies that like post-college blaze of like, what the am I going to do for the rest of my life? Or how am I going to get at like a job that fulfills me all that, you know, millions of movies, apartment on Mentone Avenue, right there,

Speaker 6: 38:09

Wonderfully shot. I mean, it's a beautiful looking film. And I thought the performances were, uh, a lot of fun, but I wanted to say how it affected me emotionally and uh, well

Speaker 2: 38:22

Pineapples real little dude. He's from Austin.

Speaker 6: 38:24

By the way. I just want to say that, Oh, Oh, he would have to be real guy like, Hey, we need you to appear, you know, that whatever this area is, so you can stick your tongue out for that one scene. Now that was like, they knew the guy and they wrote it in, or I don't know how that manifested. Maybe we get the filmmaker at some point, but, um, it really, it made me want to live my life to the fullest. And the reason why

Speaker 2: 38:49

You want me to tell that story about the filmmakers coming on the show?

Speaker 6: 38:54

Oh, I don't know. I mean, I don't know if we're going to be, we would be able to get that guy. I don't know. Are we going to get that guy?

Speaker 2: 39:02

Well, you just made me think of something anyway. I'll let you finish your point. Sorry for interrupting.

Speaker 6: 39:05

No, no. So let me know when you're done. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So the reason it did that is because he has to break rules in order to figure out where the line is in life, for who he needs to be, because he's not making, he's like introverted and he's not reacting in a way that will lead him to make breakthroughs in life. So he could live his life to the fullest. And he's a big Samoan friend. Pineapple has convinced him to do some things that are naughty, right. And break the rules and, and, and you know, it doesn't matter. It's a game, play it. And then he starts to play the game and understand where he fits in the world. And, uh, watching that it's, it was fun to see someone break out of the cast that you put yourself in. And for me it was inspiring, you know, because I'm in a rut and this movie is helping me.

Speaker 2: 39:54

Sorry. You mean to say plays the game of life? Is that you're trying to say. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What did I say? So anyway, I'll tell the story about the filmmakers, because I called that I was, I was kind of frustrated actually, because like the PR girls she's cool. Like she does her job really hard. Her job is to like beat the drum until the filmmakers get booked on the show. Right. And, um, she's connected to that other dudes, Zach, we had on the show and he was cool. He participated like came on, he played the game. He knows we have a format. And that's the thing. Like, we're not a show that has to survive off of celebrity interviews. And we're not an interview show that like, they don't have constant unless they have an interview. We're like doing our own thing and that's the content and we have a format and we're kind of sticking to it. And we have nights that we record. So it's not like we meet up the same night. We have these plans to discuss the movie of the week. And it's more like a panel show. You don't have things on like film, festival nights on like IFC channel or like Turner classic movies or AMC where it's like, we're going to watch Halloween four. And here's them to talk about how informed they all watched the movie. You know what I mean? Like here's our panel of experts or whatever. And they're gonna talk about the movie as opposed to, we're only interviewing the director of Halloween to don't even bring up Halloween four and only ask him questions about how we too, by the way, he's going to tell you about his new movie coming out and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you've gotta hit all these points. And then like, you're like locked into this whole thing. We can't have any fun. And uh, they're like, they're like, um, you guys record on such like you guys court on Monday nights. Can you guys just record it on Wednesdays? Cause the actors aren't available, maybe the directors aren't available, but you gotta do it on a Wednesday night at this time. And that time like, Oh no, we've been down this road before. It's a dark road. Remember guys we've been stuck in this situation before we're not nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And not to toot our horn, but I guess I will because podcasters have to speak up for themselves, especially when a non invited to award shows. Uh, there's no reason to have celebrities if that's not even the show, that's not the point of the show. It's not like entertainment tonight or like a Conan O'Brien or something. It's not that it's not that show. Like they were more intimate to our world. It's basically like come and watch the movie with us. And then also tell us about what you're up to. That's fine. We're more than happy to listen to like what you're working on. But we also want to know what your opinion is of we're turning the living dead or whatever the movie of the week is, you know? So does that make sense guys? Or am I just feel? They could've just came on and made up that they watched the movie and invented their enjoyment of fictional scenes that they came up with on top top of their head. And, uh, that would be, that would be inside of our format. And we could be like, that's, I don't remember that in the movie. And then we just continue on and would, I didn't realize that that this was the team, uh, that was, uh, re making requests that were outside our format. But sorry to hear that. I wish Adam keeps his bridges intact. He's like, well, I know Johnny really burned his bridges, but not Adam, call me again. I'm just saying it's a good film. So, uh, let me give you a little bit more of a break, but yeah, look, maybe this isn't the podcast they wanted to be on. Otherwise they would've, they would've looked it over and said, Oh, we can do that. We could watch a movie and be on Monday night. No, they thought their time was more valuable. I don't give a about any particular actor. I think we're as good as they are or not. Or maybe even better. Like we're not going to do this thing where like we treat them like royalty or put them on a pedestal, like at this point where I don't even think we need award shows. I mean, the Oscar just proved that we were like, Hey, we're on the same level. Do you want to play this fun, you know, podcast game with us, you know, and we'll dance, his wheels are spinning or he disagrees. So let's find out,

Speaker 4: 43:39

I just don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. So I'll just let you too,

Speaker 2: 43:43

Such a politician. I don't have a strong opinion on this

Speaker 4: 43:47

Subject. I don't. I mean, if I did then I'll, I'll just say fine, if you want an opinion. I mean, if the times work out and it's a great, like, somebody that'll work for the show, like sure. Why not? You know, unless they're like,[inaudible]

Speaker 2: 44:00

Like, I mean, if like Steven Spielberg said like, Hey, I'll do your show. Like I'll bend over. But I mean,

Speaker 4: 44:07

Wait, that doesn't sound right. No, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 44:12

Wow. Dave has been auditioned. Yeah. Dave got into drastic park seven. I know. Right? The first clue was his name was Steve Steven, Steven Spielberg cousin.

Speaker 1: 44:33

I know David was, I was like confused.

Speaker 5: 44:36

Yeah. David to our staff takes, let's see what David would pick. He's not on the show tonight. Neither is saving his cousin, but we do have opinions of Nick, Dave, and Adam to enjoy. So did anybody watch anything else besides what we had to watch for this show? But we just did it.

Speaker 1: 44:53

I did watch, I watched Parana to the spawning. Remember that woman? Did they fly through the air in that one? Yes. It was James Cameron's first movie. Technically. Yeah. It's not the best, but you can see where he is going to become a, like, it's like the foreshadow of him becoming a great underwater photographer and et cetera. Like you could see where like it's planting the seeds for a BIS or whatever he's going to do in the future with the avatar movies, et cetera. It was, it was interesting to watch, but I wouldn't recommend it now, but I, but I did pick it this week. Yeah.

Speaker 5: 45:29

I watched it, but I don't recommend it.

Speaker 1: 45:31

I know she didn't watch it.

Speaker 5: 45:35

Beautiful endorsement. If you want to see James camera's first, it's kind of like an anti episode. Every single segment, like yeah,

Speaker 1: 45:44

Yeah. Do it. But don't all right. If you love James camera, watch it, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 5: 45:52

All right. Um, I'll be, I actually have two movies. I'll just be quick about them that I do want you to see two different puppet movies actually. Um, so, uh, I don't need to tell you much about, uh, their street gang, uh, how we got to Sesame street. It's a history of Sesame street. That's if, if you like Sesame street, watch it. You'll be in tears. You'll fall in love with the movie. I did. It's my favorite movie I've seen so far this year. So much different documentary. Benny loves you. Didn't you, did you see it? I know, but what he said, I just know exactly what you're watching. Okay. So Betty loves you real quick. Looks like Elmo, but kills like Chucky. It is a guy's yes. Think of drop dead. Fred, uh, you know, like an imaginary friend that kills for you, even though you don't want it to, um, that the animation in this movie, like, it looks like a marionette with the strings and the person taken out like the animation on the puppet just ma like is made to look jerky. And it's hilarious because of that. Like they worked on a small budget and they knew how to work things just right. Um it's and it's very gory. So if that's your thing, he wants to be a puppet kilowatt checkout. Benny loves you. It's a rental right now. It was fun. Okay. So, uh, I was gonna say, I watched a very challenging film about what it advertised itself as entrepreneurial ship. And I was like, Hey, the narrative about somebody succeeding, they came up from nothing, but it's called the white tiger. It's on Netflix. And it's about, you know, uh, an Indian guy that's

Speaker 2: 47:30

Trying to break out of the caste system by a lot, allying himself with a more powerful family. That's in a higher caste than he is. Um, and you've already put me to sleep. Oh, sorry. Uh, maybe you don't know about the horrors of the caste system. And the movie is actually really challenging. Uh, the decision to read a sort of Shannara while you continue your review

Speaker 4: 47:56

Of this is from the guy who did 99 homes, John.

Speaker 2: 47:58

So it was really good. It was really good. And I recommend, if you want to see a challenging movie about someone who has to do dirty deeds in order to get what they need done in the world. Uh, I, I don't, I don't, I don't think he's a good character necessarily. Cause he, he doesn't matter where you start. That's where you start. You want to see dirty deeds. That's where you start. Let me start at the end. Like I'm not Johnny spoiler. That's what Johnny spoiler does. Spoiler alert. I've already given the spoiler. Sorry. I'm learning from you. John can be a good teacher. What did you are? I didn't watch anything. Goodnight folks. Thanks for[inaudible]. It's probably, there's something old movie that you've seen

Speaker 4: 48:48

Or watch an episode of flight of the Conchords.

Speaker 2: 48:51

I, uh, I consumed, I binge watched the first season of mystic quest on Apple TV and then started the second season. And that's a rather useless show made by one of the creators or two of the creators from all of the sunny in Philadelphia. They only, well, yeah, I was looking for,

Speaker 4: 49:08

I was wondering if that was going to be good. I guess I know not to give my time to it now. I love that

Speaker 2: 49:13

The only two things is, I don't know the name of the actor, but he plays cricket and all of a sudden in Philadelphia, he gets more screen time as one of the main characters in the main guy. Yeah. So if you want more of him, but he's not as quirky and this one, he's more of a straight character and then like straight as in like straight or wacky, you know, like, and then a, and then M F Murray, Abraham plays a writer on the show. And so he's really great and he's still alive and he is great in the part that they have them cast it. And he's brilliant. Actually. He's supposed to be like a 1970s, um, Nebula award-winning scifi writer. Who's like got all the quirks of the guy who was way outdated. Right? Like he's, I mean, he'd be, he's a lawsuit ready to happen. Every everything that comes out of his mouth, but he's so confident in the way he delivers everything. You just go along with it and he's still alive. Yeah. I mean, the show is about a co a video game company, right? Is they launched like an expansion of their popular video game. And it's about like the video game industry, but I don't know, take it or leave it. I mean, it's not as good.

Speaker 4: 50:19

He kind of got me intrigued again by F Murray. Abraham.

Speaker 2: 50:22

Yeah. He's your reason to watch it because he's

Speaker 4: 50:24

Dead at this point. Yeah. I rewatched the day just recently. I'm like, Oh man, he's such a, he's a good actor.

Speaker 6: 50:30

Didn't really get really that much he brings. It was that movie was in with Gary. Bucy where they hunt people, ice tea. Isn't it?

Speaker 1: 50:42

Oh yeah. That's a great, that's a great man.

Speaker 2: 50:49

Instead of the 19 man, that should have been your staff pick last week.

Speaker 1: 50:51

That's a good one. Yeah. You didn't love melting man. Come on John.

Speaker 2: 50:56

Well, anyway, so if you're looking for coming attractions, um, Nick is actually going to be skipping out again. He's off to Austin next week. So he'll be back in like two weeks for summer slash actually. And I had left Dave, Dave was supposed to tell us about summer slash, but, um, I've already mentioned it so well, you just mentioned it. I guess all Dave had to bring up was that in two weeks, but I got to excitedly. So we have a summer long horror movie marathon it's called summer slash this is our third year out. There's official Merck already. There's actually a t-shirt that's available is off the fan is want to go get the t-shirt early it's on sale this weekend. Grab it, take a look at it, get advantage 30% off. Get the t-shirt. And a, and in two weeks, we'll start jamming like 12 weeks of horror movies down your throat. Cause the binge Watchers are going back to hell. That's the, how we're going to describe this experience.

Speaker 4: 51:46

Yeah. I sincerely think this is our best all around season yet.

Speaker 1: 51:49

I really do. Like, we can bounce for all the most of these movies, at least like, you know Hmm.

Speaker 2: 51:57

Keeping we're keeping some of our coasts in the dark, actually only seeing the light.

Speaker 1: 52:02

I don't even know what's going on. Yeah, I know. I keep mentioning. Cause I just want to make them feel jealous, but I don't think

Speaker 2: 52:07

They going to give you like a day and a half to watch it. Or two days we won't even make it.

Speaker 1: 52:11

That might be tough with kids. That might be hard for me. He's got to watch it in 15 minute chunks. Yeah. I can't watch the movie with a kid. Probably I'm assuming check the rating. Double-check like mute, mute.

Speaker 6: 52:30

You get one of the special TVs. It mutes it for you. But check this out.

Speaker 1: 52:34

Edited version.

Speaker 6: 52:36

Yeah. We're talking so much trash about you and you're gone this time. Oh, I can't wait how much trash it's going to be. Just trash talk, Nick.[inaudible] for his lack of participation, leaving his hanging heads up. Do we even get when you're leaving? Like

Speaker 1: 52:52

I it's family trips. I never know it's rent. I got about a week notice. Yeah. But how did take advantage? I'm going to Austin and SeaWorld. I don't, I don't know. I'm traveling the world. I'm traveling the world with kids. Yeah.

Speaker 6: 53:08

You going to be missing out on the podcast? I'm just saying

Speaker 1: 53:11

I would do it from a hotel, but there'd be kids like climbing on me. Probably it'd be a nightmare. Yeah, it happens. Yeah. Uh, but Hey guys, uh, stuff got real. We talked about a Wolf things. Got we talked about Paranas uh, Adam got crazy at John. Got crazy. Check us out on, uh, IgE and all that stuff. And uh, this nicotine saying late increasing ciders accents, but not quite, it was like an Irish Christian set. I don't know what there was. Yeah. But what I was going to finish, what you started, it was that Christian Slater in Oh shoot. That was, that was like knock me. He cleared it and it was like that line. Well, what I want to know is, I don't know how you do it.[inaudible].