Binge-Watchers Podcast

Exiting Excision - Excision Horror Movie Review - New Shrek - Young Guns 3 - The Munsters Remake

March 21, 2021 Johnny Spoiler, Dangerous Dave, Nicky Lates, Double A, and The Binge-Watchers Season 27 Episode 4
Binge-Watchers Podcast
Exiting Excision - Excision Horror Movie Review - New Shrek - Young Guns 3 - The Munsters Remake
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Show Notes Transcript

Nick asks John what happened last week and John talks about a pre-show argument about promoting a movie you may or may not like starring an A lister who has fallen from grace. 

TONIGHT’S MOVIE IS EXCISION about an outcast teenager (AnnaLynne McCord) practices surgical skills and has fantasies about it.

Dave chimes in with dangerous Excision movie trivia and info about the filmmakers.

ATOM reads the headlines and our crew comments.

HOME VIDEO HEADLINES:

  • Young Guns 3 Movie: Emilio Estevez Says Sequel In Development:
  • “The Kid is a fun character to play. There’s a lot of speculation about what happened that night, in 1881 in Fort Sumner, New Mexico. Did he die? Did he not? And so, there’s a lot of mythical, historical and actually some factual things that we can examine, if we’re serious about going back to that franchise, as well.”
  • In honor of its 20th anniversary, Shrek will return to theaters on April 25, 28, and 29, hinting at plans to revitalize interest in the franchise.
  • Rumor is Rob Zombie will write and direct The Munsters, a new movie based on the classic sitcom, with Sheri Moon Zombie playing Lily.


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The episode continues with our FAVORITE BITS from this surgical and sexual horror movie for our real March Madness month here on the show,

For FAN SERVICE this week: Paul wants to know why does Dave hate anime so much, did it mess him up as a little Dave?

ATOM intros us into the WATCHLIST which includes: Greenland, Goodfellas, and Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker.

We debate which is more deserving of Best Picture Goodfellas or Dances With Wolves.

NICK asks what are the movie choices for THIS OR THAT, which is a new way we pick our next movie to review and it was between Cobra and Old Boy.

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Speaker 1:

Hey, John,

Speaker 2:

This is Nikki lates. Um, I want to ask you what happened last week.

Speaker 1:

Holy hell. While we watched this movie called love me deadly, which is about a chick who got her rocks off with dead dudes. And then we got into a side discussion about like dating girls in high school that also wanted do dead dudes or Adam revealed where he hid the bodies. I think that's what happened. I'm not really sure this is gonna be a dark episode folks. I'm a little irritated. That's pre-show irritation. I don't know how it's going to go. We'll try to pick it up. We'll see what happens. We got into a side discussion before the show about an, a Lister who used to be a movie star started in the eighties now does like extended cameos in movies has a signature look is not doing so great, but unfortunately there's a personal conflict for the show because we happened to be promoting. One of the movies is in right now. So that really kind of ties your tongue. It's a tongue twister, but in a bad way, it's almost like, yeah, can't really say anything tune in next month. And then we'll be able to tell you what the hell we're talking about. Somebody actually asked me on Instagram. Hey, did you see this movie yet? I'm like, yeah, I did. And that's all he said, yes, I've seen it. And then like, he's like, Oh, and I'm like, Hey, why don't you review our podcast? And then I'll send you a copy of it. But didn't, you know, it was like poker face. And I'm saying, Nick, like, didn't tell him one way or the other. Oh, I get it. I get it. So, okay. Now you guys can chime in without trying to reveal what we're talking about. So it doesn't off the sponsor, like paramount pictures.

Speaker 2:

Gosh, dang. I don't want to them off. I don't want to them off. I love you guys.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so it was talking that whole time and nobody heard me. You weren't talking, we rolled into the show, a theme song playing, let's see yo watch podcast watches podcast. It's a thing. Um, tonight's movies, excision, which is about an outcast teenager played by Alan record and she's practicing surgical skills. And then she has these really dark fantasies about it. Uh, Dave, did you come up with any trivia for this movie or talking about the filmmakers?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I actually listened to the commentary on the disc and there's a lot of discussion of bodily fluids a lot more than you'd ever expect from a commentary. Yeah, a lot. Well, in fact, some of the more bodily fluid scenes in this movie, including the bloody, uh, kind of lingo scene, if you will. And, um, the herpes scene were like based on real events where I guess the director had really had gone. I had oral sex with the lady who was on her period. And I guess another scene that was taken from real life, where, or what do you mean? Well, uh,

Speaker 3:

You're saying he had a horrific sexual experience in real life. Let's start the show, Sharon.

Speaker 4:

Oh, Paula something cold on ice because it's the binge-watching[inaudible]

Speaker 3:

And if you're just tuning in after the theme song plays, it's a happy, happy, bright show. It's a great Sunday night. Everything's going well, you don't got to worry about problems. You didn't hear anything about herpes and now we're going to continue with the show what's new in the home video headlines out. And what do you got for us? Well, uh, no herpes, uh, there's there's a young guns, three movie, uh, on the horizon, uh, which I'm excited about you guys excited about that? Yeah. So Amelia Esteban is, seems to be like pretty, pretty stoked about it. And he's, uh, he said, uh, Billy, the kid is a fun character to play. There's a lot of speculation about what happened, uh, that night in 1881 and Fort Sumpter, uh, sorry, Fort Sumner, New Mexico. Did he die? Did he not? And so there's a lot of mythical, historical, and actually some factual things that we can examine if we're serious about going back to that franchise as well. So apparently he's given some clues about, uh, what's going to be happening, uh, potentially where there is room historically to make a third film because, you know, I thought it was pretty well covered in young guns, one and two. Well, I'm just asking where would they go with it? Cause I mean, I'm fascinated because we, we see the old guy in part two talking about the storyline. All right. Creatively. I mean, if I was the writer, this is how I would play this out is you sit around the courtroom battle for him to, when he was trying to prove that he was Billy, the kid. And in the telling of the stories in the courtroom, they say that people's memory is foggy. Like they actually say that like eye witness testimony is completely biased and very flawed. So you can have people that technically died in the other movies as like the flawed memories of some of the people testifying or things. Maybe things didn't play out exactly as we've seen in the other two movies. Right. Okay. Then, then they could bring everybody back. Yeah, exactly. But I don't know if anybody's going to touch on this idea of like a legend is a legend and a person who is real is real. And there's always a blurred

Speaker 1:

Line in between the two, right? Like if you read the history of like the OK corral and white earth and what his brothers were doing and what they were doing, like literally the institution of a badge is what drew the line between them and the Cowboys. And there's a lot of nefarious things that even they did it, but they're like, they're like, we try to tell these stories and put things in black and white terms. So they're more, you know, easy to, to, to like be receptive at dinner time or something. So you can sleep well at night, right? Like good and bad. I mean, bad people can do good and good people can do bad, but we want to have these like, like Epic arc archetypal understandings of, of people. Right? Like, um, supposedly like the real history is like wide open. His people drew their guns on unarmed Cowboys that were there. And then like the ones that were the Cowboys and had they been in trouble before, like went and grabbed their guns. Right. But it's just like the thing where the two, the two Texas Rangers that took out, uh, Bonnie and Clyde, they, they ambushed walking in Clyde right now that I know Bonnie and Clyde killed a bunch of people. Right. And had like killed people while they were breaking out of prison. But it wasn't like a, you know, a showdown high noon where it was like good versus evil and who's better. Right. It was like, no, we snuck up on you and executed you. You know what I mean? They, they walked into that, to that area or whatever, knowing that the Cowboys were at a disadvantage because they had to end the conflict. Right. Or thought they were going to end the conflict. You know what I mean? It's like what Sean Connery. He says it. Right? Like, and, and again, the guy who Sean Connery's based on, probably didn't ever really say this bro was super prejudice as a beat cop in 1930 Chicago or whatever. If this guy is even real, he might not even be a real person, just like an amalgam. Right. He was like talking about like, Oh, you know, if they bring a, uh, what was the knife to a gunfight or something? Like if they bring a, if they bring a bat, you bring a knife. If they bring a knife, you bring a gun or what, you know what I mean? Like the whole speech about what brings you a fight that, I mean, that seems to be systemically how, you know, lawman operate. It's like, Oh, these guys are really bad. So we gotta be worse. We've gotta be worse to take care of the problem we got to like, so, you know, exploring that side anyway, I'm going off on a tangent, but you know, I'm thinking about young guns three, how does this thing shape up?

Speaker 5:

So I just think there's some actions and some awesome, uh, court stuff, I guess. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, in those days you could bring a gun to a courtroom.

Speaker 5:

I just thought maybe, maybe the kids, some,

Speaker 1:

The big, third act lead up to all the that goes down to the courthouse. Yeah.

Speaker 5:

But also like let's say, I mean, AMEA lesson is, let's be realistic. He's in his fifties now. So I don't know what was it? 1880s. So it would be like 1910 or like 1905

Speaker 1:

Into the twenties, thirties and forties.

Speaker 5:

But that's, that's my point. Like the movie has to kind of take place in that time. I'm assuming, or no,

Speaker 1:

The 20th century or whatever, like 1904.

Speaker 5:

W is it Billy? The kid like living a life with a wife and kids? Like, what do you do at that? With this movie? I don't know. You know, he's not some young teen anymore. Like he's like immediate Alyssa is isn't. How do you make that movie?

Speaker 1:

Where they wrote a scope of the younger versions of the men guess so. I don't know what they call it, but you know, Marvel has used it. Disney uses it. Amazon uses the aging process. Yeah. I'm just saying, it looks very artificial by the way. It does not look real. Like at all.

Speaker 5:

I actually love to see like, I mean, I mean immediately the rest of it still looks young. I would love to see him at, in like 1905, but like kicking, you know, I'm just saying

Speaker 1:

Young guns should be old guns. Like the third one should[inaudible]

Speaker 5:

All guns. Hell yeah. Let's do it. Let's embrace it. You play up the myth angle. You bring up the guys back. Oh, they didn't really die. What you heard was a myth and here's the true story and both movies and telecom.

Speaker 1:

I mean, bottom line

Speaker 5:

Hurt or did die though. Like it's like every character.

Speaker 1:

No, but they do Chavez did not die. Like he's the guy that supposedly carved the name on the tombstone that has no body in it, by the way.

Speaker 5:

Oh, Lou diamond Phillips. You mean? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

The real plays it's supposed to have been the one that went to the empty grave they had for Billy the kid, because you know, back in those days, they used to put them on display and tour them around if they were famous, like who? That, that happened to uh, well, Jesse James, they put them on tour for like 108 days or something. Oh my gosh. That's so awesome. So they weren't done with Billy that came, but guess what? No body. Right. So they have a tombstone and then like somebody card, the carving of the word pals, that's real like, um, that really happened. And there was, I read one, a couple of things that said, they thought it was Chavez, character Chavez, Chavez. Who was a real notorious guy.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. Oh, he was, he was, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. In real life. He's a mean bastard. He did horrible things. So I don't, I don't know what is redeemable about him in real life. But I just think we went down a list of who hunk Billy hung out with and they didn't really know the guys. And then they just like put a little background into the story, you know? Like, um, well, but he's supposedly alive. He wasn't one of the guys that got killed.

Speaker 5:

So we're saying Lou diamond Phillips can come back. Can key their Sutherland come back. I mean,

Speaker 1:

Shot did not die at that shootout in part to not in real life.

Speaker 5:

Okay. What, but uh, Arkansas, Dave did die. So Christian Slater can come back. Right?

Speaker 1:

This is like deja VU. Didn't we talk about this and arguing.

Speaker 5:

I'm just like Christian Slater.

Speaker 3:

His twin brother can come back

Speaker 5:

And I'll come. I'll come back. Number two.

Speaker 3:

Well, you know, they're trying to w okay, so Avengers end game got like the most box office in history. So James Cameron is going to put out avatar again so it could reclaim the top spot. We have an opportunity. Let's listen to me. You killed it, John. And honor, the 20 20th anniversary chef Shrek will return. The theater is on April 25th, 28th and 29th until you get plans to revitalize interest in the franchise. So we have an opportunity to put Shrek at the top of the list. We just have to go

Speaker 1:

Killing me with your ambition to take over the show. Adam, you kill me every week. You're the one who wants the notes to make plans and to get organized. We should just wish you just, right. Somebody says something.

Speaker 3:

No, he's having fun with it. I had to spend, I had, I had two sentences and it's a problem. I don't know where you were going. You started saying, I know, but you didn't give me a shot. Either.

Speaker 1:

Every movie we mentioned is like a whole discussion and we talk about avatar. That's that's like a fight.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but I'm not talking about avatar. I'm talking about box office, but I was doing something fun with it. And then you interrupted it. Like it was an issue

Speaker 5:

Dave's Dave's very silent tonight.

Speaker 1:

Take over. I

Speaker 5:

Mean, I don't know. I mean, as far as I know, avatar did win. The Bach is the number one movie again, as you know.

Speaker 3:

Okay. So, but Shrek is coming out again. It's its 20th anniversary. And uh, you know, are you going to go see it in the movie theater,

Speaker 5:

To be honest with you, I've never even seen any of them. I've never seen. No. I know. I knew I was going to get a bunch of crap for this. And I knew it.

Speaker 1:

I get crap for that. Cause the original track is a great movie.

Speaker 5:

I've seen portions, right? The first two are solid

Speaker 1:

Trick was the first thing I ever bought. I bought a DVD player to watch.

Speaker 5:

I know I'll watch it within the next year because they have kids. So I know, I know, like I knew it was coming right now. I'm not stressing.

Speaker 1:

It's one of the few, supposedly for kids that it's actually entertaining has a good soundtrack and has modern songs. And I hear it's amazing. Tell jokes. And it has Eddie Murphy is a donkey. Which

Speaker 5:

Dude, it sounds amazing. Cause I've watched frozen about 20 times in the past week and I'm freaking over it. So all about Shrek. You're freaking over it. I am freaking out.

Speaker 1:

Oh, excited about frozen. You can't wait to see it again. You know, what's coming up In theaters. There's a 4k coming with it's 4k plus CBD plus Blu-ray plus digital.

Speaker 5:

Gimme, gimme, gimme the Shrek. I'm I'm all like you have the opportunity to see Shrek in the movie theater. So, uh, no, I would actually, you know, he has his tickets and to be honest with you, I am actually excited to take my kids to a movie like it. I have not seen a movie in a theater in a year and I'm actually ready to go and I want to take my kids to a movie. So if Shreks out, hell yeah, I'll take them. I'm down. I'm ready. Yeah. I'm all about it. Bring it. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Nick, if you sat them down and tell them, you shut the hell up in a movie theater, you understand,

Speaker 5:

Uh, that, that I'll be going to the 10:00 AM kids

Speaker 1:

Breaks. There's no bathroom breaks during this two hour movie. You understand? I'm not mushy. What happens to Shrek and the donkey second,

Speaker 5:

I guess if you go to the nine 30 or 10, 10:00 AM. 10:00 AM show. Yeah. I mean, people accept that. It's fine. You know,

Speaker 1:

Hey Dave, you've gone to like animated movies by yourself, right? During the night

Speaker 5:

Gloves them all bad. It yeah. No, not anime.

Speaker 1:

You know the, the young, young middle-aged man in the back of the theater during the mother, the mom, the mom and kids showing, you know,

Speaker 2:

So you know what? I stopped after I hit a certain age. I'm like, you know what? I have a beard. And if I'm alone at a kids movie, it just doesn't look right.

Speaker 1:

He stopped so matinees.

Speaker 2:

So unless I'm with my wife, I don't go to kids' movies anymore.

Speaker 5:

Uh, probably play it for the better. Yeah. And be like, this guy's really creepy. What the hell is going on? I'd be like, yeah. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Can I get one for finding Nemo?

Speaker 5:

That sounded legitimate.

Speaker 1:

Hey Dave, you also buy this special cups. Like they, you know how, like when they put out movies, they have like special

Speaker 5:

The cups. Oh, like the promotional cups. Yeah. Yeah. What about them now?

Speaker 1:

It just adds to the vibe of you sitting in the back of the theater with a bunch of families, just sipping mountain Dew through a little like, you know, truck cup or something. Lion, 3d cup

Speaker 2:

Or whatever.

Speaker 3:

With 3d glasses on list. That's pretty dangerous. Oh man, you're going to watch this thing in the theater. John. No, wait, wait. I'm over it. I'm over. I've seen Shrek like about 17 times, at least. Well, no, I know,

Speaker 2:

But you and me see Shrek two in the theaters Because we saw donkey dragons and we were like, Holy,

Speaker 5:

Isn't there a strike three and four or I don't even know to be honest with you as well

Speaker 2:

Is Trek the third and then there's Shrek forever after.

Speaker 3:

And then there's puss in boots, uh, was spinoff stuff. But also there's strike Halloween, which falls in between the second and third movies.

Speaker 5:

That's way too late.

Speaker 2:

I think there's a wish you a very Merry Shrek, miss or something,

Speaker 3:

Pixar, Dreamworks. But they were trying to do like a Pixar type short movie.

Speaker 5:

Shrek jumps the shark movie. I mean, I'm just saying,

Speaker 3:

Cause he messes with the time of the first one. So Nick, you even have really covers Nikki. You either have to watch frozen more times or all the Shrek SQLs.

Speaker 5:

I give you this and trust me, it's coming within the year. I'm not worried it's gonna, when it comes, it's gonna come up like crazy

Speaker 3:

In this segment because we have other segments. We got fast enough. So we got this rumor that Rob zombie is going to write and direct the monsters. Uh, like if you've seen the plat classic sitcom, you know what that's all about. It's a spinoff at Adams family. So, uh, with Sheri, moon, zombie playing Lilly, uh, you guys interested in watching that or who's literally, by the way, can you hear me? It's the mom. Uh, Oh my gosh. Nick, you're losing a lot of points on this episode, bro. No, no. I'm just like, Oh he just like,

Speaker 5:

He always has to cast his wife. Like why not do Christina Ricci? Like everyone wants her to be the mom.

Speaker 3:

I'm just saying, well, no, that's

Speaker 2:

You think you're thinking of the Adams family. Although they are interchangeable.

Speaker 3:

Oh. I mean he just knew a wrench in Rob Donnie's plans here and family.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. Oh shoot. I totally jumped the bomb. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

I'd be down to watch this. Um, I mean, we'll see. I mean, uh, Rob, zombie's not exactly known for comedy, but he'd certainly loves the Munsters. I mean he wrote a whole song about it.

Speaker 3:

We've made a lot of family films, Halloween one and two.

Speaker 5:

Well technically they were about family. I wonder how his style will work with comedy because like he's very like the actors just kind of like, it almost seems like they're AB living and I'm like, it could work or it could like fall on its face.

Speaker 1:

Well, here's the thing from, from what is it, three from hell or whatever. The last of the devil's rejects trilogy or whatever. Perhaps the cast of the monsters is coming out of that movie. So like I was, I was really excited for this cause I, I had read, Rob told me in like an interview, said like how much of a fan of the monsters he is? And it influenced like his personal style, like his personal, the way he dresses and also his music. And then, I mean, Dracula, he bought their car and put it in his music video. Right. So I'm pretty sure that's where he got the car from. And uh, I thought, okay, it's a fan, it's a professional fan. Who's going to do a justice or something. But then when he immediately cast his wife is the lead. I was like, Oh, here we go.

Speaker 5:

Well cancer and everything. I mean she, and she's not a terrible actress, but it's also like just obvious.

Speaker 1:

Well, you really can't grow her range if she's just taking orders from her husband and every single movie, you know,

Speaker 5:

You know what if, if she like did like, if she worked with like another director or did like five other movies a year, I think I would respect her more, but it's always like, I'm only doing Rob zombie movies. Right.

Speaker 1:

But who are these studios that are just green-lighting him to go play around? Like, you know, for them to have a honeymoon every time they have a movie, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5:

He makes his movies cheap. I mean, most of his movies, uh, 31 was like, uh, crowdfunded. Wasn't it? Um, maybe I haven't seen that. I think it was, I think it was. Yeah, but I mean, most of his movies are pretty low budget. I mean I'm with the exception of like the Halloween movies, uh, you know, he usually works with small budgets and makes his money back. So yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Didn't have to reshoot like half of the last one that he made the last Halloween, did he touch? Cause like some guy exposed the film at the airport or something like that. It's like a story.

Speaker 5:

I heard that

Speaker 1:

They had a reshoots on homie and part too. Yeah. Like Rob's zombie, it's funny. Like there's so many Halloween movies you literally got to put Rob's on being in front of the title so you can distinguish. Yeah. And Rob zombie's Halloween. I think they had to reshoot something. I haven't heard of that because they ruined some of the film

Speaker 5:

Canister got opened or something. He just shoot on film now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. We really funny if that was just a coverup story, because it sucked in there like, Oh, Oh, we can't afford you. Well, how do we force them to allow us to refute it? You know what? Let's have the canister have a problem. We definitely have no choice. We don't have a movie you're gonna reshoot it. Yeah.

Speaker 5:

I've never heard that. That's crazy.

Speaker 1:

All the Oscar nominations are out, but I don't have the list in front of me, but I know Steven Yeun who used to be on the walking dead and then got his face basket in a, with a baseball bat. He got a nominated. It was like the first Asian American actor to be nominated for lead. Um, obviously movies like no man land, whatever. No man say it. Dave, no mad land. Thank you. Um, which got a globe or was nominated. I don't remember how that checked out. We set it on the other episode. Look, clearly I don't follow award shows anymore. There's no incentive for us to even talk about award shows anymore. And in this new world of new media and how things are structured there's no, I don't think there's a reason to even,

Speaker 5:

And this is a weird year too, because it's like, no one released them. I mean, this is not a year. You can really compare to anything else. Right? Like this is not a year where you're like, it was even playing ground. I think a lot of the movies

Speaker 1:

The last year, because this year just started. So we'll look and don't remain.

Speaker 5:

I mean last year, like I'm saying like whatever the Oscars are this year or this year, I mean like for this coming season, like for last year, like I just feel like a lot of people like, Oh, we're not going to release this movie. We'll release it later. Right. I'm just, I'm just feeling like it, it didn't seem like a normal year for movies. No, it wasn't. I mean, you know, I mean, like, I really feel like a lot of people, like, you know, w we will release this next year and like six months from now, you know, did you guys not get that vibe or no. I mean, this wasn't a normal year for anything. Yeah, exactly. Like I'm like, like the Oscars, it's just like, like, how do we really compare this to like last year or the year before like 1990 or right. 1970. Most of the, most of the movies released for like,

Speaker 1:

Or we're, you know, like Amazon prime or Netflix,

Speaker 5:

Not even, not even, just because of that's, you know, like there's some things that were released in theaters, I guess, but like, most of it's just streaming exclusives or an Amazon and Netflix, which is they're dominating now. It's, which is weird. Yeah. It's just a weird year for movies. And it's like, we're in this transition where it's like, Oh, the theater movie, isn't the Oscar movie. It's actually, the Netflix movie could be the Oscar movie, you know? And it's a weird transition, you know? Yeah. Do you guys feel that or no, dude. Yeah. It's weird. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 5:

Because I couldn't get through one of them and I haven't had a chance to check out the second one. So I didn't figure they were worth mentioning right now.

Speaker 1:

I forget the dude's name. And I thought you were going to drop his name. It's Richard Bates Jr. Okay. Richard Bates junior. So this guy, Richie Bates Jr. Made, made excision. Then he made a Southern Gothic, which sucks. It's about a ghost or a boy that can see ghosts. And he grows up. And is that Matthew, Greg Googler guy from that criminal mind show looks nothing like the kid who's playing him the flashbacks. And then it's all like a poor man's version of Frighteners, but not as good. Then a tone. Deaf has Robert Patrick who, you know, from a Terminator and other. I don't know, but he's, he's a pretty twisted he's in that movie that it reminds me of a don't breathe and cause another horror movie. But with Stephen Lang, he reminds me of Stephen Link's character. But what I want to say about Richie Bates is he gets better with each movie. So it's almost like he's learning. He gets to make real movies, but then he's learning with each horror film. Nick turns in, um, Nick, you got some favorite bits from this movie excision,

Speaker 5:

My, Oh, I got some feedback and feedback, but, um, my favorite bits are actually the fact that like, it's almost like a cry baby reunion, Traci Lords in John Waters. I was like, am I, am I like, am I the only one noticing like we're getting a cry, every reunion I loved it. Um, and I actually, this was a really weird, interesting movie. Uh, I love that the, the, uh, actress was like, actually she's like really beautiful, but she like played it down, but I w it was a fun movie. I, I wasn't blown away by it, but I liked it, but I loved the crybaby reunion. Yay.

Speaker 2:

Um, yes. Uh, yeah, clearly he loves John Waters and his movies. Um, I don't know. Uh, my favorite bits are a couple things. Um, of course all the fantasy. I don't know if you call them fantasy or the dream sequences that are really twisted. And, uh, maybe we'll talk more about that in a bit. Um, but I also like any moment that she tries to act normal, she's trying to relate to the girl with the junk playing jump rope. She's trying to like try to kind of date, make the moves on a guy, but just as foreign says, Hey, I want to lose my virginity to you. I mean, like she does things that she thinks are normal, but she can't be further. She can't get any further from it. Um, you know, per mom puts her cotillion and she's like five, six years older than all the kids there. You know? Um, you know, this movie is just, uh, yeah, those are some of my favorite bits. Um, Adam.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, my favorite, uh, my favorite scene, uh, is the extraordinarily awkward sex scene. Um, I thought it was, uh, it was just as awkward as a really bad real life sex scene, uh, where two people have no idea what they're doing and they're trying to be adults. Plus it's got that extra level of her not being completely adjusted to normal life. So, and then of course the guy, uh, the shot of the guy in the mirror, screaming afterward and like rubbing his face and he can't, he can't get the blood off anyway. Uh, Oh, it was like, Oh, I don't know, watching. I'm not saying it's not disturbing, but it was, uh, enjoyable as a viewer to see us

Speaker 1:

Anyway, the main girl, intentionally times, or period for winter who wants to lose your virginity because she's they call it, I don't know psychosexual, which is like an old, that's an 18 hundreds term too. We were talking about 18 hundreds. You referenced with different movies at the beginning of this episode, but same thing, they've pretty much disregarded psychosexual and the MD five, whatever the hell they call for, uh, behavioral disorders and like mental health. There's like a whole catalog of things, doctors now with all these writings, but I'm not a head shrinker or a Buddha witch doctor. But if I was, I would swear this girl has like a mood disorder of some kind. And, uh, she has these chronic fantasies through the whole movie. And like the movie opens with an amazing sequence. And it's, it's like hitting them with blood every, every, I don't know, 10 or 15 minutes of the movie she's having like another fantasy. So I love the opening of the movie. The opening is really strong, but then so is the ending. I mean, the ending has like a really disturbing, unnerving, mostly a sound effect. I mean, it's some, it's just like somebody who's screaming joined by, uh, gosh, it looks like she realized what she had done, like right there at the end, she like snapped out of her daydream or whatever, and then realized the consequences of what just happened. I'm not going to spoil that part. You got to watch it. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah. Yeah. Nancy, there's something else I wanted to say that I there's almost something I was going to add to that, but I'm not sure if it's spoiling, but you mentioned like they realized what they'd done, but like the mother, there's a great bit of acting from the mother where you realize something terrible has happened, but she still loves her daughter, but she's conflicted. Like, I don't know. Um,

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think she had a moment of like parental guilt where she's like, I've known all these pieces have been here, but I've been trying to do this, hoping the kid would react this way, but all of these pieces added up and then this happened, but you're, you're still the parents. So ultimately it's, you're going to have to deal with it, you know? Um, yeah, but

Speaker 2:

This is a shocker of an ending. I was Florida.

Speaker 1:

She could be thinking, I mean, she has two daughters. I don't want to say too much because I'm really trying not to ruin it for the

Speaker 2:

Too much. Yeah, yeah. It's not that well-known of a movie. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I think she's just weighing the consequences of like, what's going to happen to each daughter by the end of the movie, but, you know, go and watch it. And, uh, as has air Ariel winters plays the sister of the main girl who you might know from modern family, which as it turns out, that shows actually funny, which is I've avoided it forever. Cause it seemed to Buffalo.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I agree. I've only seen like one episode randomly. So I have never really

Speaker 1:

A show that was like completely different from her resume. But then, um, what Nick was saying about the crybaby cast, like this Richard Bates guy, he brings back these four or five actors.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Tracy, why is also in this?

Speaker 1:

Um, well, yeah, I just said Tracy, I was just holding it down. I haven't seen her, uh, really do anything, but that movie with Kevin Smith, Zach and MIRI make a porno. So

Speaker 2:

She does, she doesn't have that much. I forgot. I forgot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Well, I mean like her claim to fame when she was an underage, like, was she, is she Canadian?

Speaker 2:

No, she's American

Speaker 1:

Porn star, but nobody knew for like 20 years. And then like, she was like, it all came out or whatever. And then like, they're like, Oh, we got to immediately pull all these films at a circulation. Yeah. It was a serious thing. I'm sure she's been through a lot of drama in real life, but she's holding the plot down for this movie. Cause nothing really glues the movie together except for Tracy Lords. Is the mom, the scenes aren't real are mostly loosely connected by the fantasies otherwise.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I mean, it's a looseness of plots. Um, I dunno like the character, I kind of like felt sorry for the most was the dad, like the dad gets just henpecked all through this movie and like eat some

Speaker 3:

ice cream man. Like let him have his herpes. Well, let's see what the fans are up to. Lots of herpes. Um, lots of herpes. Yeah. So do any Paul who doesn't have herpes, but he apparently wants to know, well, how do we know? Well, I know, but he has a question for Dave. Why does so much, did it mess with him as a there's a little Dave? Uh, no, no, no.

Speaker 2:

A little Dave as a like, uh, well, a young 20 something Dave working at a video store that catered to a lot of anime. Um, I don't know part of it, I'll be honest. Part of it is I just don't care for a lot of the enemies I've seen. Um, especially anything that has a lot of nudity. Like, I don't know. There's something about cartoon that bothered me.

Speaker 3:

They're traumatized. They all their herpes late in tuned to these cartoons, the video renters. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2:

Honestly, I, the biggest thing is I have a problem, like with the fan base now I'm basing this off of mid two thousands, but I worked at a video store that catered like greatly to anime fans. And they are the meanest bunch of people. If you don't have what they want or you don't know,

Speaker 3:

You're talking about some of those we have is, Hey Dave, what's a video store. Well, we'll have to give a whole nother episode.

Speaker 2:

We had to actually physically go to, to get movies, to watch what, where to weird.

Speaker 3:

Right. How does Kansas can just go on Netflix and watch anything at what, uh, well

Speaker 2:

About like a week when you asked, have them deliver it to your house?

Speaker 3:

Some of the guns

Speaker 2:

Back in 2005, six. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Wow. She's dreaming. Was the Netflix really pitched buying? Like, do you think Netflix really tried to console the blockbuster when they were first starting get? Absolutely. I think so at the time too, because at the time it was a good mood, but now probably not.

Speaker 2:

Here's the thing about that when they talk about that, they fail to tell people that this is like in 98 or 99 before Netflix was huge or blockbuster was on the down, like blockbuster was King at that time. Like that's kind of a detail that they forget to tell you is like, is right at the beginning of things.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Like I, like I would,

Speaker 2:

Netflix would have bought, or excuse me, I think blockbuster would have bought Netflix if they were on the table, like after they had established themselves,

Speaker 3:

At least I'd hope. So it's almost like they tried to sell the idea to blockbuster and blockbuster just kind of laughed at them. Is the lore kind

Speaker 5:

Of yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, uh, I know a little bit about video stores. I was working at one when a blockbuster tried to reverse engineer Netflix's, you know, DVDs in your mailbox, you know, with the blockbuster express, that thing tanked that fell on its face. But I, I watched the blockbuster documentary and the one part I want to find out if it's true is that blockbuster absorbed the debt of Viacom, like$800 million. And that's what really killed blockbuster is they had to absorb the debt of their parent company. What? Yeah. So I don't remember that. Uh, yeah. It's, it's said there when the boring executives are talking and it's all, it's like, it turns into like a wall street, you know, CNN report for a second, but then I don't know the validity of this, but it's an interesting idea. So imagine like you have a division that's doing really well and then your other division tanks, it, cause you're one part of your company is bringing in cashflow and the other part is just bleeding money. You know, that's an interesting concept. Like parent company grabbed all the money yeah. From the one to pay the holes. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, or they just don't want to buy, we don't have lists. They don't wanna admit that Netflix beat them at their own game. Who knows? You know what I mean? Like, like that's the, that's the cover storyline. Uh, anyway, uh, what else did you guys watch this week? Let's go to our sort of our watch list.

Speaker 5:

Uh, why I watched a Greenland? Oh yeah. I actually got around in Greenland and it, you know what it is fantastic. It's really realistic. And it's not your typical disaster movie. I actually really enjoyed it. I highly recommend it,

Speaker 1:

Dude. We actually, uh, we sent a couple of DVDs to a fan who won a contest when we're on stereo. Uh, maybe I can mention, I'm trying to bring up his tweet. Let's see. Yeah, he'd said I wanted to thank you guys for gifting me to Blu-rays for Greenland and love, love and monsters. Two movies I enjoyed from last year. It was very generous and definitely helped me out. Get through a difficult time. These last two weeks you got the great work and like maybe we can talk together in the future virtually. He said, but that's, you know, that's funny, but uh, you know, Cisco, thanks for tuning in and thanks for playing the game on stereo with us. Uh, now's a good time to bring up stereo again. So stereo is an app for live conversations, uncensored, unfiltered, raw conversations. And the way our podcast is using the app is we go on there and we have these bonus content and materials like after shows and watch parties. And we're going to do a horror commentary fan commentary of leprechaun. I'm going to have a few drinks in honor of leprechauns and everything that's going on in the world. And you can join us on there. You know, stereo.com forward slash Johnny spoiler. Yeah, it's named after the host. Maybe I have an ego trip. I don't know. No. They had to assign show hosts, uh, accounts or whatever to all of us, but we all got verified. We're on the app. Those are our official profiles. You can also follow AA and dangerous Dave and Nikki lights on the stereo app and find out what we're talking about later tonight, which will be in the future at the end of this episode. Like how it works out with the timing is we're always talking like a week before or week after.

Speaker 5:

Um, let's see. What else do you watch this week, Nick? Oh, I watched, uh, Greenland and then I was watching, uh, I just finished. I just told you it's the next guy. It's me. All right. Yeah, man.

Speaker 2:

I watched, I had to like watch the tried and true classic this week because I watched a lot of like, not so great movies. So I popped in Goodfellas and man, if you haven't watched that movie in a while, it just washes over you. I love that movie so much. It's beautiful. It's like, you kind of get sucked in. Like I, you know, I throw it on in the background and then it's just like, all right, my I'm done for two and a half hours. You can't help get sucked into that movie.

Speaker 5:

Wow. It's one of those movies where like, hadn't, I know dances with wolves is a beautiful movie, but how did that be? Goodfellows I will never, no, no, no. I've still never seen dances with wolves either. Um, I've I've seen parts of it and I'm always like, wait, no, this doesn't think we could be off John. I think that's one of his

Speaker 1:

Favorite movies. It's a great movie. And it's way better than that stupid mobster movie that you guys[inaudible] and he doesn't hold up. Maybe in the nineties, it was okay.

Speaker 5:

I've never liked that

Speaker 1:

More people talk about digital is today. So I like anything that's

Speaker 5:

I told her the right way. So I can't debate you on that. I'm with Dan I'm with John on this one.

Speaker 1:

It's a way

Speaker 5:

Better mood. And plus I also have some native American in me. So he said

Speaker 1:

He had a little native American in you, the little

Speaker 5:

Indian avatar, then I'm just saying, so I'm saying both of those guys are mobsters and Oh, Dave and I are mobsters all the way. Like yeah. Yeah. We, we, we look at w I'm looking at it right now, Dave, right? We're mobsters. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

We're actually going to miss our stereo. I know. Right. Do we need to go

Speaker 3:

Rapid fire? Tell it, talk about what I watched. Oh, did you watch something else? Besides I watched the acts of violence, uh, starting, uh, Bruce Willis cameo. And then I saw another movie it's on shutter it's butcher Baker nightmare maker. And it has an amazing setup. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a fun movie about, uh, a domineering false mother that may or may not be controlling every action, her son, her and her son in quotation marks does in his life. Hmm. So John, what'd you see? Uh, I watched so many things. I actually watched all of Richie Bates, his movies. And what was I watching before I came down here to podcast with you guys? Let me think. Um, well. I can't remember now. Oh, well memorable. Well, no, it's a good movie. What the hell was that? Oh, no. I would watch a bunch of episodes from Rio, nine 11 from like season five. And, um, and before that I literally had watched Southern Gothic, as I said, and, um, uh, tone deaf and uh, yeah, so I watched all his movies to see like what it was all about after excision and um, yeah, what's up make you late.

Speaker 5:

So I want to ask you yes. Uh, what are we watching next week? Uh, John, what our show is this,

Speaker 3:

Is it time for this or that it is

Speaker 5:

This or that? What are we watching John? Is it this or is it that I want to know?

Speaker 3:

Okay, boys, are we watching Cobra or, Oh boy,

Speaker 5:

I want, Oh, I already, I mean, I want some Cobra. I'm just saying I love me. I haven't seen that in years. I would give her cover in the second. So I'm going Cobra.

Speaker 3:

Um, Oh, I'm going to go with old boy,

Speaker 5:

Son of a gun, Dave old boy.

Speaker 3:

[inaudible] How would you ever put in the cenote version of,

Speaker 5:

Yeah. So you're going for the original right Cobra. Okay, Adam, thank you. I love you. Okay, John,

Speaker 3:

I guess I should just keep myself out and just stay in like the monitor.

Speaker 5:

What would you want? Do you want an old boy or a Cobra?

Speaker 3:

That means we have to watch both is what that means. We can't do double features. We are going to be your case. We eat. We have, we watched the first half of both movies.

Speaker 5:

I just need to watch the scene. We all know the scene. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

I've already watched both movies and I guess it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5:

But with Cobra, I want to watch him cutting the pizza. You know? It's like, Oh, you have, Oh my gosh, Adam, what? You haven't seen Cobra? Nope. These, you know boy. Yeah. Oh son, are we going guys? I'm just saying, I'm just saying cover. I'm just putting it out there.

Speaker 1:

Oh, bill is a great movie and it's hard to find. I try to join an online app that lists it in their catalog and they don't really have it. Um, and D you know, you could watch the American remake, but it's not the same as the, I think it's a Korean, Asian extreme. If I'm picking the right country, it's Korean.

Speaker 5:

Um,

Speaker 1:

That movie has shaped a lot of my opinions about movies. It's really good. Um, but it sounds like that sounds like we're watching CobraNet

Speaker 5:

If Adam hasn't seen it, right? Yeah. I haven't watched a Cobra, Adam. It will change the way you look at how you eat pizza.