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Bad Romance: Warlock 2

February 01, 2021 Johnny Spoiler and The Binge-Watchers Season 26 Episode 1
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Tonight’s movie is Warlock 2, officially known as WARLOCK: THE ARMAGEDDON. A soft reboot of a sequel. Everyone considers it a sequel, however, it changes the origin story of the Warlock, and it disregards Warlock Part 1, so one deduces that this is a completely different Warlock all together.

Every 600 years, Satan’s Son has a chance to destroy the world if he gets his bastard hands on 6 magical stones protected by 6 druids.

6-6-6. There are also 6 signs of the Armageddon that signal to the Druids that the Anti-Christ is on his way.

A pair of predestined teens are chosen to duel the Warlock as a special class of druids called druid warriors, and just so the audience knows, all the mythology in this movie is total BS from the imagination of Kevin Rock, the screenwriter.   In history, yes there were druids.  There were armed bodyguards called Gothwella that had some relationship with druid factions but none of all the stuff in this movie. 

And the director has some beefy horror credits - it is Anthony Hickox who did Waxwork 1, and 2 as well one of our favorites Hellraiser 3, Full Eclipse, and also the horror-comedy Sunset: Vampires in Retreat.  He is a cult director.  

After we highlight some home video headlines we’ll drop our first impressions of Warlock 2.

  • Have you guys tried this Coke n Coffee thing?
  • Nick found a great game emulator … he was playing Warlock SNES on it
  •  Kong will use telepathy in the new movie (which he did in cartoons)
  • Cloris Leachman died. She won an oscar and was really funny.  She was in at least 2 movies with bad romances The Last Picture Show and its sequel Texasville.

Our first impressions of Warlock 2 include:

  • “So much fun. Better than Warlock 1.”
  • “Commit. It’s awesome.”
  • “Very disappointed.”
  • “I got to find this movie after watching teaser.”

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Some of our favorite bits from Warlock 2 include:

  • The unnatural Warlock birth
  • The Piccasso kill
  • All the more horrific stuff in act one
  • The elevator kill

Since we are running a bad romance theme this month that includes bad relationships we analysed this movie and perhaps, the best relationship in this movie might be the Warlock’s connection to the magic rocks, but the worst one might be between the 2 main characters who are supposed to be in love!

Next week: YOUNG GUNS 2.

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Speaker 1:

Last time. I binge-watched this podcast, we did a fresh take on we're like 89 and then included some movie trivia. Dave convinced the masses to sign up for stars. We gave away some copies of loving monsters. Nikki lates was actually early and double a double down on his love for honky boys. Actually, we all loved PG cycle Gorman so much that we were considering dropping the movie the week. Talk about this crazy alien horror flick that just came out and now for another exciting adventure,

Speaker 2:

Open a cold box of wine. Oh, pour something cold on ice because it's the binge watches.

Speaker 1:

And of course tonight we're talking about warlock too, officially known as warlock, the Armageddon, a soft reboot of SQL. If you will, everybody generally considered it as a SQL. However, it kind of changes the origin story of the warlock and it disregards warlock part one pretty much all together. So anybody can deduce for themselves that it's a completely different warlock. So every 600 years, the son of Satan gets a chance to destroy the world. If he gets his bathroom hands on six magical stones protected by six Druids, six, six, six, dun dun dun. There's also six sides of the Armageddon to the signal, to the living Druids that the antichrist is on his way. Now in the movie of pear predestined teams are chosen to do the warlock as a special class I drew with called Druid warriors. Just so the audience knows the mythology of this movie is total from the imagination of Kevin rock, the screenwriter in history. Yes, there are Druids, but they had some armed body guards called goth. Wella in the middle ages as well. That had a relationship with Druid factions, but none of this other, that's in the movie. And of course, early CGI wrecks the seriousness of the end of the world. And all the Druid training is very star Wars. Like, like how obiwan originally trained Luke. But if you want another wizard, horror movie with Julian sands, this movie is going to fill that void for you. And of course the director actually has some beefy horror credits. I mean, we're talking about Anthony Hickox for God sakes. You know, he did warlock one and two and he did some of our favorites, like, uh, what Hellraiser three. He also did full eclipse, which is like a werewolf cop X-Men type movie, which is really strange. But it's worth watching that movie debating one. I'm gonna throw it up on this year's movie list. Maybe he also did that before comedy called sunset vampires in retreat with Bruce Campbell, which is really funny. So basically he hit me. He is considered a cult director and uh, I mean, it's good that he has a sense of humor. Cause it seems like he employed humor in this movie too, but we're going to go hit some home video headlines and then we'll come back with our first impressions of warlock too. Hey, uh, but have you guys tried the coconut coffee? Like it just came out now.

Speaker 3:

I just barely heard about this. I already said.

Speaker 1:

So it's like, uh, you know, like one of those 11 ounce cans, it looks like a tall, it looks like a red bull, right. But it's um, 79 milligrams of caffeine or whatever. So it's basically like stronger than a cup of coffee, but not as strong as some of the new mountain Dews that are on the market, but it's in between, uh, the strength of a cup of coffee and you know, some serious soda, right? Not as, not like a joke color. I remember that jolt. That was like 99 caffeine. Um, but it's actually kinda good. Like every other taste is either like you take your first sip and it's, Coca-Cola the second sip. It tastes like coffee, third sip Coca-Cola. And at the end you're like, what did I drink? So like it's compared to surge. I've had to, Oh man, wait, we cannot talk about surge. We'll we'll spend the whole episode talking about surge, man. Like, like I have memories of track. Uh, you totally threw me off track, like, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 3:

I have a

Speaker 1:

Certain story and it's never come up on the show. Okay. Let me, let me back up a little bit and finish the Coke story and then we'll jump into surge. Okay. And with the cooking coffee thing, I've tried two flavors. I've tried the, like the black with the Coke. Right. It's good. And then I tried the vanilla one and it's like, I was sitting here thinking like all these years, have I been not like, have I been missing out, like either pouring Coca-Cola into my coffee or, or, you know, copying in my Coca-Cola. And I'm like, is this a thing? Like, have people been doing this? Like they must've been doing this already on their own. Right. And then Coca-Cola was like,

Speaker 3:

Anyone who's done it though? Like I've never even heard of, did you do it? Oh, see, I don't know.

Speaker 4:

I think it would destroy the carbonation. It would just be gross if you did it on your own. I don't know. But if you use like, like Maxwell or crystals or whatever, like, you know, it feels like, it feels like the nightmare on Elm street concoction.

Speaker 1:

I think you have to have real coffee. I don't think it would. I hate instant coffee. I hate it as to coffee. It's pretty bad. I don't really think you like coffee if you drink that. And I know somebody who drinks it, but

Speaker 3:

I've only ever drank it on like a camping trip. You never,

Speaker 4:

Yeah. It's terrible. My mom drinks it and she likes it. It's not

Speaker 1:

Real. It's not coffee, man.

Speaker 4:

I mean, I had some this morning and it was okay. Well, okay. We'll do it in a pinch.

Speaker 1:

All right. But it's still, it seems diluted. It's like almost like decaf coffee or something because

Speaker 4:

You just double up your teaspoons. Oh my

Speaker 1:

Gosh. It's still doesn't work for me, brother. I have, I'm not a fan of triple up. You're a teaser. I want to drop the Taster's choice, discussion and address. Can I address your search comment, Adam? All right. Okay. Well, search came out when I was in junior high. I don't know where it came from. Coca-Cola decided to distribute it. It's an alternative to mountain Dew or Mello Yello. It has like a lot of caffeine. He used to make jokes that I would shrink your Dick. Did you hear that? This joke? No. Bipolar insurgent mountain Dew would shrink your Dick. Now. You never heard that one, huh? No,

Speaker 4:

No, actually I did hear that one, but I knew it was false. So it never

Speaker 1:

Mountain Dew can

Speaker 4:

Kill your sperm. It doesn't shrink. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Um, anyway, uh, yeah, it might kill something. Might kill a little swimmers. Um, you know,

Speaker 4:

Yellow number five is your sperm. Count.

Speaker 1:

It disappeared forever, but now you can get it at the dollar store. You can go to Amazon, buy a case of it. There's a whole Facebook page dedicated to keeping Serge alive, but it's still circulated, but not as widely circulated as it was. But for some reason, this grocery store, when it came out was selling it like buy the caseload for like less than the price of a six pack. So me and my friends were buying them every day after school. And then we had these two soda machines in junior high that was like exclusive to the eighth graders. I don't know why this was a thing. For some reason in this little town I was in, in Arizona, it was a big deal to have a soda machine in junior high. And then like to punish the eighth graders for, I don't know, littering or something, they closed our soda machines down. And then like we decided, well, we have two lockers filled with surge right now. We started showing floors at recess lunchtime during the pep rallies. Like those essentially we were running like a little breaking bad operation. We would go back to the store every day for like two months straight and buy more cases. Cause like we were charging like, you know, us a dollar a can at that point. And that's, that's like highway robbery, it's supply and demand. Right. So we would go back and buy these cases and we can't. And then I, like, I got investors, I got two of my buddies was like, Hey, bought me a 20 so I could go buy more. And we just kept going. And then, uh, the principal, who's like almost seven feet tall, bald with a beard. He looks like the boss on the X-Files. He comes over one day. I'm selling sodas on the basketball court while other people are playing basketball, I'm selling a gym bag full of sodas. He comes over, pulls me aside and says, what club were you affiliated with? Are you here with the boosters club? He's like officially you need to have some school business to things on school, property. And I had to go to his office. Uh, he called my soda contraband. He locked it up, dude, what you just described? I want Scorsese to do like a 15 minute. Like my friends, they look terrified. They look terrified. I popped the surge open as he was lucky to watch me. Like the only thing I could think to do is pop one and enjoy it on, on his way over, you know what I mean? Like, so this is like Johnny kingpin. This is like a story that like, they told me when I was in freaking high school. They're like, Hey John, remember that time you were selling sodas illegally out of your locker. Why would they even prohibit that that's bull where you, so you were a dealer I guess. Yeah. Wow. I just want to

Speaker 5:

Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny,

Speaker 1:

The search story. I don't have to write that in the notes that that came out the surge story and we need that as a blog. Seriously, man. It'll, it'll be in the autobiography that Dave writes one day for me inside details, you know? Yeah. Like just like Plato wrote Socrates. We're having a lot of fun. And speaking of a lot of fun, we'll talk about playing games for a minute. Uh, outside of the show, there were some talk of like doing some podcasts about video games before it was, we were talking about podcasts and about video games like Nick and I were talking about emulators. We want an easy way to play all these games that we love. Like classic stuff, super Nintendo Sega stuff, all this stuff. And uh, so he was researching emulators and then a whole week I researched, yeah, we mentioned that like we were talking about warlock 89 the other week. And so we were like, Hey, by the way, there's a, in the trivia section where like, by the way, there's a warlock video game, Nick you, what are you doing? You went and found it.

Speaker 5:

I went and Googled it. Yeah. While we were doing the podcast, I got all excited. And then randomly, I got this emulator this week and ironically, the game is on this emulator. So I actually got to play it. No. Yes. Oh it is so awesome. You need to take screenshots? I didn't know that. Oh yeah. So you play, uh, who was the main hero on the first one?

Speaker 1:

Uh Redburn

Speaker 5:

So you're that guy. And then Julian sands is the warlock is pretty much coming in and attacking you randomly possessing dogs and people turning them into zombies. And then you're just, you're fighting your way through the levels. I only got to level two so far and I'm digging the game. It's pretty much been the only game I've played on this little emulator I got

Speaker 1:

And I love it. It makes you play the guy from the first movie. Yeah. But I heard the game was like, has the magic and from like part two,

Speaker 5:

It's really a weird mixture. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's a mix. A mashup of both movies or whatever.

Speaker 5:

You've got like this little ball you throw and then you have like these like little, almost like lasers to attack the people I'm really digging it so far.

Speaker 4:

Is there a compass mechanism?

Speaker 5:

I have. I've only played the first, uh, I'm only on level two so far. Probably not that complicated. It's probably, it's pretty easy. Yeah. Hmm.

Speaker 4:

Well, there's a lot of super Nintendo games that, you know, are more complicated than they look like on the surface, but it's probably simpler game. It was a super Nintendo game, right?

Speaker 5:

Uh, yes. It was in the super Nintendo. Yeah. I mean, th this emulator has everything. Nintendo Genesis. I mean, I'm having to

Speaker 4:

Talk about the emulator, John, because that thing's cool. It's not just like a program.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. That's just, that's the second update for our headlines is where we are talking about the emulator. I dunno what it's called. It's like some third, like third-party off market off a wish. I actually got it.

Speaker 5:

No, I wouldn't trust that actually got it on Amazon.

Speaker 1:

From which.com China will send you your product. Like six months later,

Speaker 5:

The product is called the art, uh, RG two 80 V. If you guys want to look it up on YouTube, it's great. And its technical name RG. Yeah. So if you like, go on YouTube, look it up. And it's I got the one that's designed like a little game boy, but the screen's perfect. It's 2.8 inches. It fits in your hand, it fits in your pocket. Great

Speaker 1:

Industry of these emulators, right? Oh

Speaker 5:

Man. I, and originally I'm like, God, I'm dying to like, go play Lynx games. They're like game boy games. And to get all these games would cost hundreds of dollars and this thing has it all. And it's great. And then you could even add new games. I love it

Speaker 4:

When soldier boy put out his old version. And then we went all day. Like I can't, they can't touch me. Like what about intellectual properties? Ah, they can't touch me. And then like the very next day it was

Speaker 5:

What, what I'm shocked is that they were selling this on Amazon. I was kind of blown away originally. I was like, Oh, I have to get this on eBay or something.

Speaker 1:

It has like some, you know, like fine print that says they're not responsible for like what their Amazon sellers,

Speaker 5:

I guess. So yeah. Parties. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

The next thing I wanted to bring up is did you guys hear that Kong is going to use telepathy in the new movie, which, which he did like in the, did you guys ever watch any of the King Kong cartoons?

Speaker 5:

I didn't even know. There was one. Yeah. There's

Speaker 1:

Like three or four of them, but the one in the early two thousands, which came out with like around the S the first new movie of his before skull Island or whatever, which is like maybe the better of the tube, the first one. Um, and then like in the nineties, I think it was another cartoon. And maybe in the comic books too, maybe he does this, but that's how he talks to people is he has like a psychic connection to them. But in the cartoons, he talks. Like he's got an Oxford education in the movie. He's going to talk like a monkey or what? I don't know what's going to happen in the movie. But, um, so I think, I mean, it's, I don't know. I mean, there's almost a way to communicate with animals. Like, it seems like sometimes if you're like, you're like, you know, like Dave sharing videos or playing with his dog in the snow, they seem to understand each other. I mean, it, I don't think he should have some over elaborate, like communication. I mean, they made like what 35 Godzilla movies and Godzilla kind of understands us and we kind of get Godzilla, but we don't need to have like a full-blown. Yeah. Like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like,

Speaker 4:

Or maybe it, do we know how it's being represented? Like how they're doing it?

Speaker 1:

No, it's just like a thing floating around on four Chan and Reddit and like, you know, the forms and, you know?

Speaker 4:

So it could be like, he just there's a sound. And then an effect

Speaker 1:

Was the only reference for it is like the cartoons, but it's full blown conversations in the cartoon. Was it control

Speaker 4:

Animals like Aqua man or something?

Speaker 1:

No, no, no. But there was a dude that controlled him, I think. Yeah. There's I might be getting the names mixed up because it was either Kong or Godzilla and they could control the monster, but, Oh, um, these are KGO movies, all big monster movies are called kg movies. It's a sub genre. It started with all the Godzillas and the moth Rose and the, uh Gamarra, which is a fine turtle. Ultraman is even a[inaudible]. It just means strange beast. That's all. But, but I mean, if he's going to have full blown conversations, that might not, we'll just make it a planet of the apes, but oversized, you know, like extra large.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. If they're going to do that for Kong, what are they doing for Godzilla? Like Godzilla, he doesn't get an act.

Speaker 1:

No, he's why he has a problem while he's the villain is because he has a toothpick and that's

Speaker 4:

Yes. That Johnny oiler with the Capitol spoiler.

Speaker 1:

No, no, that part was total, but I just thought it was fun.

Speaker 4:

Uh, no, it is funny, but it was also frightening.

Speaker 1:

Well, the reason, the reason Godzilla was angry in the nineties when she was pregnant. So she was not that to think is not that far fetched. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

I was terrified because I thought, Oh, no, that sounds plausible. And it sounds really bad, plausible. Like they would do it and it would suck. So

Speaker 1:

A long way from radiation we're, we're having such a good ride right now. We're going to bring the audience down a little bit with the next bit or the next headline. Cause we have to address it. Cause I think like we owe it to her cause she's so good at what she did. Um, Gloris Leachman had a pretty full life. This word I can tell it didn't know her personally, but uh, Cloris Leachman died. She won an Oscar and she was really funny. Um, she was in at least two movies with bad romances. And since that's the theme for the month, we can mention them. He was in the last picture show. That's the one she won the Oscar for and actually had a SQL called Texasville. Um, we did a ton of stuff. He was in the office actually. They, they, um, had a Jack Black play, a romantic lead with her and a fake romantic comedy movie that they were watching in the office. Um, so she's been everywhere. I mean, TV film. Um, I just thought I'd mention it, you know, in the greater TV and film world, you know what I mean? So,

Speaker 3:

Yeah, she's been around for a year. I mean like years and years and she's never stopped working. Um, yeah. She pop up and things on TV all the time or just like a small role in a movie. Like she was America's grandma for 30, 40 years. Give or take she's one of those actresses. I remember seeing a lot, but I didn't, I never really remembered what she was in. I would always have to like Google.

Speaker 1:

Well basically if you haven't, if you to be like Dave, say like a grandma, like a grandma in a comedy that actually has like a good attitude or a good, a good part, it tells really zinger. Zingers is like, uh, um, it'll if it's not Betty White, then it's Cloris Leachman movies like bad Santa or, you know, stuff like that. But lit on fire and a Kevin Hart movie called the wedding ringer. There are like, I did a table and something happened and like she gets lit on fire. I mean, obviously it's a zany funny sequence, but she has movie, but you know, it's just really, it's stupid, funny, but like Dave said, she's in like all these it's all common stuff. So yeah. She had amazing comedic timing or

Speaker 3:

Brooks.

Speaker 1:

She seemed like she had a really good sense of humor. Like she knew how to handle life and she just expressed it through to me.

Speaker 3:

Well, she was mostly known as a comedian, but I mean, like you said, the things she won an Oscar for, it was like straight up show dramatic. Yeah. What did she win an Oscar for? Do you guys know

Speaker 1:

Last picture show like last year

Speaker 3:

Now she's really great in that movie too. I mean, if nobody's, I mean, it's one of the great movies of all time anyways. I mean,

Speaker 1:

We'll look it up. It's filled with a bunch of bad romances people cheating on everybody. Everybody has a side piece, like, you know, like she's the wife of some goat or whatever who happens to have like a sexuality question, but then like one of the two main teenagers is having an affair with her or whatever. She's like a housewife or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. What's what's Jeff Bridges characters, like having an affair with her at the beginning of the movie. So anyway,

Speaker 3:

Go watch young Frankenstein. I think adamants in that.

Speaker 1:

All right. First impressions of warlock, which is again officially called warlock the Armageddon. But I like to just refer it as warlock too, because we're like the Armageddon. It's a really long title, really hard to say. Um, Nick, what are your first impressions of warlock too?

Speaker 5:

I had so much fun with this one. I actually liked this better than the first one. I know. It's crazy. I really, I really dug this one. I committed. Well, you can commit

Speaker 6:

Me because I'm I'm with Nick. I mean, I actually, I think I said this last week, but I saw this, my dad took me to this in the theater. So I was like 10 years old when it came out, thought it was awesome. Then watch it for the first time in like over 20 years still awesome. Today it takes a little long, it takes a few to get into it, but man, it's

Speaker 5:

It's it's good. I, I felt, man. I agree. Okay. Well, uh, I'll weigh in two words. Very disappointed. Oh, last week audience. He did like the other one more so day. We're like on the same page. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Much longer comments before the show Dave had like this whole, what did you say?

Speaker 6:

What did I say? Um, I don't know. I just thought this movie was like the right amount of stupid. Like I'm kind of glad it wiped away the first movie and this is the movie I wanted. The first one to be, this is just dumb. It, it knows it's dumb. It's fun. Like there's so many good kills in this movie, but they're ridiculous. But I, I don't know. It has a good tone, um, to it.

Speaker 1:

I think that's what you said. So dumb, funny or so stupid.

Speaker 6:

It just, it was the right amount of stupid. It was like the right amount of cheese on my burger, kind of

Speaker 5:

Like,

Speaker 1:

So I'm trying to go back to my first impressions. Cause Dave was like, um, this is pre show folks and things we're bringing up. We have private conversations on our Facebook messenger to like plan the shows. Um, they've said I haven't watched this in 25 years and I was like, Holy. So he made me think of like, when did I watch it last? Like it literally 1999 was the last time I saw this movie. People were like, I was born in 1999. You have to go yourself. I was already here. All right. Um, so yeah, it's been awhile, but I, my first impression I'm trying to think, like, I think I saw the trailer on another video, right? Like on another movie. Right. So I'm getting a little distracted and it keeps playing with his avatar scream yard folks. So we can see each other's icons popping his head out and he picked up, was taking them away. All right. Just staring at the muscle and it's gone. Okay. All right. So my first impression would be like, Oh, this seems awesome. I got to go rent this movie. I got to find it. You know, like again, watching it on another horror movie, probably warlock one, you know what I mean? Like ripe coming attractions or something like before the other movie or whatever. Um, so yeah, I got to find, it was probably

Speaker 3:

I'm going to write that down. I think it was live. It was on a leprechaun V I think it was leprechaun leprechaun. Yeah. So it's on another TriMark video or whatever. Um, so we'll be right back with our favorite bits and uh, some more relationship analysis right after these messages from AA.

Speaker 4:

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Speaker 3:

All right. My, my favorite bit was actually, um, I, I texted these or I messaged these guys earlier in the week. It is when Julian sands comes out of the body, uh, like, like, like he's like the lady's given birth and he comes out all juicy and crack. As Adam said, it was, it was like a baby turd or what'd you say? I don't think I heard came out. Yeah. I love that opening and I love the mirror scene too. Oh man. I think the title of this episode needs to be juicy sands. So juicy. I love the Picasso scene, uh, or the him turning into the guy to the art. Um, that, that

Speaker 6:

Was great. And there's another bit I really loved. Uh, it's just a bit of acting, but like that, this is why like this movie, it has like perfect bad acting and the scene where the girl kills herself and father's like, no, or just like just non reactionary that does something about it. Killed me. Good, bad acting in this movie.

Speaker 1:

Um, Carl, you just said when we get to our, our best relationship in the movie section and worst relationship in the movie sections and why, because you might've hit on one, so, all right. Uh, and then AA, what's your favorite bit from warlock today?

Speaker 4:

I think, uh, Nick to a certain degree, uh, stole it because I think the movie starts out really strong with some really cool Hellraiser type effects of, uh, you know, the body coming from almost nothing and being able to emerge. But, uh, that weird thing that she gets pregnant with, like she, her pregnancy was all of like 60 seconds. It's pretty quick. Yeah. Makes fast. And, uh, while it's just sitting there on the ground, it doesn't even resemble a baby in any way, shape or form. It's just like this crud with a, with a tail on it was, it looks like a tail and it's all, yeah.

Speaker 1:

The only trivia about this movie is they wanted that to be the most disgusting, horrifying thing that they could do.

Speaker 4:

So they put a lot of effort into it and uh, yeah. And the wind that got the dog, you knew like that thing was gross. Right. And the, I thought, I thought, we'd see some kind of like baby come out of that thing, but that's not exactly what happened full grown man. Like it starts unfolding and inflating and then almost inflating. And then this man just emerges and shoots out from it and embrace us. And it's gross. He's like breaking through layers of stuff. I mean, it was pretty amazing.

Speaker 1:

Five brothers. You like penises, there's a penis flash, prosthetic penis. It's kind of flops.

Speaker 4:

Not that I was looking, but they did pay

Speaker 1:

TV's are pretty big these days. Right. You might not have noticed it on VHS. You didn't, you didn't see it on seven 20, but in 4k. Holy. Yeah. You're right there

Speaker 4:

With your magnifying glass. But anyway, so, uh, they, they had that part of his body, uh, painted dark. I don't know if you guys noticed, but I did it. Yeah. Yeah. Because they hit it, you know, but it was dark enough so that it wasn't seen,

Speaker 1:

Oh, it only suggested a penis. You're right. That's

Speaker 4:

Correct. Yeah. Yeah. And then you realize, we're talking about favorite bits here, you know, naughty bit

Speaker 1:

Julian,

Speaker 4:

The other good scenes of this movie, but I'm like, how could you struggle? This movie is filled with them.

Speaker 1:

Um, I also liked also murder. I liked the idea of turning the guy into a living art. And he's like going to be tortured forever as a sum on somebody's shelf. Um, but you guys are forgetting about the elevator kill. Like the guy who thinks he can take the warlock on by himself who stills the magical daggers. That's the only thing that can kill the warlock ghost, track it down in the city. And then like his little bug compass is freaking out in his pocket. He's stuck on the elevator with the warlock. Doesn't know what to do. Sweaty people get in and off the elevator. He has a chance to leave the elevator. And then, uh, the warlock exits and you mentioned, hell, raise your style. Before I actually feel like there are some moments that remind me of both Hellraiser and Lord of illusions. Yeah. Yes, definitely. But the, the elevator kill that's my favorite bit.

Speaker 4:

It was pretty amazing. Uh, because you kind of saw that there was going to be a conflict coming, but when it finally came, it already went.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. But is he the guy like totally like eviscerated, all the bones are warlock. The warlock is pristine, no blood on him. He's completely clean. But the guy, every part of the guy he's just like painted the freaking inside of the elevator. Yeah. Pretty off guard.

Speaker 4:

That was pretty cool. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

I also just to throw it out there, I love the scene. The part where he just rips that chicks, like her scalp or just her hair,

Speaker 4:

Like yeah. Like

Speaker 6:

Here you go. Look at it and kept talking about it. And my gosh, I think that's what elevated this movie to me is this movie at least had a sense of humor. The first one is very serious by comparison. Yes. This, this was fun. I think that's what I really honed on too.

Speaker 4:

I feel like it was in a similar vein. I think it was a lot closer because like when he first bites the guy's, uh, tongue off in the first one, uh, I mean, that's done. So you're shocked. It establishes him as a bad guy, but then he's like, he spits it into the breakfast skillet so that it could be breakfast, breakfast. So this movie kind of does stuff like that. I mean, think about being able to take the demon or Satan or whatever it is coming out of that, you know, thing. And then, and it's just like some halogen headlights on a truck. Like

Speaker 6:

It felt like, uh, like a nineties metal music video on a low budget, the devil yeah.

Speaker 1:

BMC compels you. What are you talking about?

Speaker 6:

It was probably for the music video of the song at the very end, which I got to say, I appreciated the movie being over and kick into like kick metal.

Speaker 1:

So part of this, the theme for this month is bad relationships. So that could be bromances romances, or just relationships in general. So we're going to analyze the relationships now just for the hell of it. So best relationship in the movie and why Nicolaides

Speaker 3:

Julian sands in these gemstones? I think that's the best[inaudible].

Speaker 1:

Wow. I didn't even think of that. That's fun.

Speaker 3:

I mean, it's almost like fan knows, like someone made a comment like marble, like it's like

Speaker 1:

Do comments now. Like they will, they've said as well, the YouTube comments on the trailer. If you go look up the trailer on YouTube, is it like, Oh, it looks like Marvel stole via infinity story from a Printed before they made the movie in the early nineties. Um, I guess anything with magic stones is now going to be compared to infinity.

Speaker 4:

Well, we need to go look up when

Speaker 3:

Stones, I know, was it nineties or eighties? I think it was 80. So, but yeah.

Speaker 1:

Firstly affinity conflict stainless was introduced like yeah. In the eighties,

Speaker 4:

In the seventies, but I don't know about the infinity stone. I idea. Yeah. But that's a, that's an old idea of like in any old movie of like, you have to get these items and you have to have them all at once rule everything. Like it's, it's not a new thing.

Speaker 3:

Only works when you go everywhere.

Speaker 1:

I mean, has a power ring. Right. And that's from, uh, all the radio serials from the thirties with flash Gordon, he has a magic ring, all the magic rings back in

Speaker 3:

The shadow or the Phantom or something. Yeah. We're not

Speaker 1:

To talk about the Hobbit.

Speaker 3:

We know how to do some dishes. Yeah. Uh, where are we?[inaudible] relationship.

Speaker 1:

You're up some dangerous analysis on the relationships in this movie, best relationship. And why

Speaker 4:

I'd say the two teenagers. Cause they're the only ones that seem to actually like care about each other and not like, Oh, well I had to kill you. Like

Speaker 1:

Was one of the weaker ones. And basically they just use the metaphors of Romeo and Juliet. The fact the movie makes of stage play and it's Romeo and Juliet. And like they're already drawing comparisons to star-crossed lovers. I don't think they spend a lot of time in this movie establishing the relationship between the teens. We see them kissing in one scene then the other guy's like, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a Druid. And she's like, what the hell are you talking about? You're making me crazy right now. And that's like, talks were dead. So I would argue that that's one of the weaker relationships in the movie. But when he said the best relationship was a rock and a dude,

Speaker 3:

I think it was, I'm just saying I don't disagree with now.

Speaker 4:

No. I think the first boy that we see associated with her is the wrong guy. Am I right? It's like that bully guy. So we don't even really understand how close they are or whatever, because the dad seems to be inviting the long haired guy to date his daughter. You know what I mean? At the very beginning. So

Speaker 5:

Are you going to, are you going to pick her up and see a movie this week or something he says, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. And then within immediately that guy is changing and bullying the other kid. And I was just like, what's happening here, but yeah, not sold

Speaker 1:

Has tail ends and things cut off. Like it, like, it always seems like the scene start late or start early and like it just missing information, you know,

Speaker 5:

Cut down. Or do you think

Speaker 4:

They cut it for time and then somebody doesn't make it

Speaker 1:

For the budget. Like it's made for 3 million and it only grows back 3.9 million. So I think like I remember shop, they probably chopped those as they were running from location. Like, you know, friend of lockdown sets the shoot, the guy didn't, you know what I mean? Like the towns of soundstage, you know, like main street, you know what I mean? It's a studio somewhere or whatever, but I like TriMark was like the nineties equivalent of like Roger Corman, like run and gun.

Speaker 5:

You got five days to get it done. I wonder how long they spent shooting this. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh boy. Oh wait. I thought I saw that too, but I didn't write it down. Cause I didn't think we're going to talk about it. Sorry. Um, only, only like 16 weeks.

Speaker 5:

Oh, with like the whole production from beginning to end. Well, that's pretty quick. I mean like, yeah,

Speaker 1:

Adam, what do you think? Best relationship in the movie. What do you think?

Speaker 4:

Well, uh, Julian and his master that he's no, I'm just joking. Uh, I think the best one is, uh, the, the two guys that know the truth, right? Apparently the guy that becomes a preacher is like, what an ex Druid, if I'm going to infer this correctly. So he's supposed to know. So the relationship that they've had, where one guy is trying to that's what that dude. Yeah. He's trying to deny his past and act like all that stuff is woo. And that's not for me. And so the daughter has no idea what she comes from and he's the guy that left and then all the things that happen that ended up, you know, bringing them back together.

Speaker 1:

Two dad Druids, the preacher and the bookstore, right?

Speaker 4:

Yeah. That was really interesting. And look, they were willing to fight alongside one another and go head to head with the warlock, even though they weren't the warrior.

Speaker 1:

Huh. See, I would argue that the best relationship and then we'll not argue. Cause I would, we're already like 40 minutes in October in my opinion. Or as Dave says in my H or whatever, humble, hoping, um, like the best relationship I think is between the dad drew it and who I'm just calling like, uh, the Druid son. Cause I'm not even keeping track of their names. Just like the, the girl, the preacher, the dad they hillbilly like, so the dad who teaches the son about the Druid powers. And again, like OB one, I mean, they haven't dressed like he's got Yonas colors on, he's got Jedi colors on, this is like, Anthony Hickox is like, Oh, this is my star Wars. You know what I mean? This is my 3 million star Wars

Speaker 4:

First learning to use the force in this movie.

Speaker 5:

And when Yoda came in, it was weird.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. What do you think is the worst relationship in the movie?

Speaker 5:

I honestly think our two main characters, just like I was not feeling it, although I do have a crush on the one girl that was in a Hellraiser three. I remember when I was, when I was younger, I used to have a really big crush on her because she was in Hellraiser three, I think the year before this. And then it makes sense that she was in this movie now, which I didn't know until I saw this. Um, the, I just I'm going off about my crush. I'm sorry. But I think there were the main, the two main characters were the, my worst, uh, relationship.

Speaker 1:

Dave, I'd say between a father and any of their children, like both parents, like either kill or let their kid kill themselves in front of them. So I know the greater good and all I guess, but I don't know. They're just like, all right, I had to kill you. It wasn't hard.

Speaker 4:

Wow. Uh, mine is, uh, the kid and his relationship with that baseball, that is the worst relationship. And you also have to throw that composite into that arrangement because that is some awful look and stuff and yeah,

Speaker 5:

It was time to talk about a knife.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah. I'm going to talk about that knife. Is there time? I'm going to add that thing on, but we're talking about that later. You can have like actual compositing where you have shot something against a blue screen or green screen. And then you've got, I'm just going to throw something on top of the frame and it'll be fine. We'll fix it in post. And some of that's in here and it's a shame because this movie has some really amazing effects in it.

Speaker 1:

So it has a mix of effects.

Speaker 5:

Goal affects are pretty good. I thought, I mean the practice. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You're right. The practical effects, anything superimposed look like, you know, I don't even know, like,

Speaker 5:

I mean my, my, my favorite bit in the movie, like the opening we're talking about, we were talking about that looks beautiful. And then the end scene, I don't want to ruin it, but the Julian sands stuff at the end, that looks really good too. I thought, yeah. Oh yeah.

Speaker 4:

A great job. Anything practical look pretty fantastic. It's just, uh, some of that other stuff is like, Whoa, I really like it's dated.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think that this came out the same year as Jurassic park. Keep that

Speaker 4:

Three months. Ooh. That's really net comparison there. It's hard to watch it gone. What's your, what's your worst relationship in the movie opinion?

Speaker 1:

Gosh, I don't know. Originally it was going to say the warlock to his mother when he first was up in the world. Um,

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Good point. Like he has a bad relationship with father evil and also from the teens, their relationship sucks. So I like, even when the son gets hurt, it's like, why bother stay alive and go her who gives a? Also, she just magically has better powers than his, like before she even gets, I don't know, resurrected because they're saying they can't become Druid warriors till they get killed and come back. Right. So, um, but she just naturally takes to it and let go of whatever. Uh,

Speaker 4:

She's like, Oh, that's cool. I know this is real. I would kill myself.

Speaker 1:

We're getting a little bit long on this one. We had a lot of fun talking, but we almost have no time for fan service or, uh, the, um, to play. What should I watch? So we got to make an executive decision here we go to bonus content and throw that up later. Or we just end it now and say, great job. Let's move. We'll be back next week. Or we just go a little bit long and, and, uh, do our, our other segments. What are you guys want to do?

Speaker 4:

I'm done for him. I'm for going long, but I'm for going long, mostly because I want to mention another relationship.

Speaker 1:

All right, let me just break the fourth wall real quick audience. Here's what John doesn't like to go on your podcast. That's 26 minutes long. You get critical minutes that are 16 minutes on for an audience. And they hear one commercial at eight minutes in a forty-five minutes show, you get this critical mass at 30 minutes, approximately they're listening and in about, I don't know, between 20, 25 minutes, if you drop two ads, there might be a call to action, but that's marketing our show's not about marketing, but this is stuff that John constantly thinks about in the back of his mind, because he also has to wear the hat of marketing the show. That's two times harder to market a show that goes longer than an hour, but it needs to market a show at 45 minutes. Other than that, Adam said he would like to discuss another relationship with them.

Speaker 4:

Warlock going behind the scenes at the fashion show. And a woman is reduced so easily because she thinks she's going to get like, they're going to do something. And then, and instead he flies her up, you know, to get the crystal. And she does that doesn't end too well for her. I thought that, uh, you know, when he's zoomed up, I thought that those effects were great, you know, simple, but very effective. Unlike what capita fine in the first movie. Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. There's a flying a scene in this movie that is way worse than anything in the first movie. No, I feel like

Speaker 1:

More quickly. So you don't, it's done, you know, like, uh, they told them you got to make your world like fly and he's like, why the? So you see mostly the trees and the girl and the motorcycle as a distraction from the bad flying, you know, like it's all, it's like very done pretty quickly. And because he did relationship his relationship to flying,

Speaker 4:

Uh, sacrifice a child this time around. So that proves that even in the first movie, it's that much more valuable.

Speaker 1:

You can't compare the war. They're different warlocks.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. I don't know if I agree with that theory though.

Speaker 1:

The Cuban dude that, that gained powers right. And was associated as one of the sons of Satan, like in that movie and implies there's more than one. So in the first movie, any of the children could have been successful to bring about the end of times by finding the, what the secret book or whatever. But in this movie he's manifested as the son of Satan. And because of the 600 years, six stones, six guardians, you know, six signs of the end. It's not the same dude,

Speaker 4:

Because he said he was older than the other guy could imagine or whatever. Uh, I just viewed him as a reincarnation of the first warlock,

Speaker 1:

I think because they break the mythology and show us a different origin story. It's a deviation.

Speaker 4:

No, I think it's a continuation because in the first movie he gets wiped out.

Speaker 1:

Scholars are arguing that this is not the same warlock. And I agree with

Speaker 4:

Them. Okay. Well, I just recorded all

Speaker 1:

Of them, all the video scholars talking about this.

Speaker 4:

Oh my gosh. Yes, they are. Look, we're all, we're all talking about it.

Speaker 1:

You deserve a degree in film watching. All right.

Speaker 4:

Soundless next to like, you know, latte

Speaker 1:

[inaudible]

Speaker 4:

It's on it's there. So Jason Instagram story job,

Speaker 1:

Adam also likes to break the fourth wall on the fact that he will just dig into the podcast notes and tell the audience stuff better for the podcasters podcast. Rolling down. Um, yeah, judge Jason, that's the guy's name on Instagram? His name is just Jason, but he adds like six JS to his name. He pops up every once in a while. Cause he likes us likes our show, uh, has been following me on Instagram for, I dunno, a couple of years or something. Um, he got really active talking about the show, but what's funny is the day where you dropped the first warlock 89 episode, I made a post. Right? Like, Hey, and it's usually the, I share the episode art. Right. And like tell people what the episode's about. I dropped that and he's like, wow, this is cool because I just watched warlock. You know what I mean? So you literally just, you know, movie fan, just watch that movie. And then here we are talking about it. So then he went and listened to our podcast and then I'm talking to them in the comments like, Hey, so you saw part one, but have you seen, you know, part two, it's more fantasy than horror, but you know, maybe take a look at it. It's also a good, he went and watched it and commented literally like 90 minutes later or whatever the movie ended, he came back and told me his opinion of part two. I'm like, dude, slabbing podcast, a rabbit binge Watchers fan. And like, he's like the perfect example of our fandom because we're a professional binge Watchers, but we're talking to other binge waters who can participate in the show by telling us what they're watching, why they're watching it and asking us questions. Right. So like that was just like a really great moment of like, we talked about a movie dude watched the movie and then told us, we thought, you know, like that's the perfect exchange. I think, you know, so totally what's the fan service for this week. And it's, it's a, like a Primo example of like our engagement. And then, um, the other one came from a dude named ed, uh, via email. Um, I don't want us to know if we've seen one division, which is on Disney plus it's the new Marvel show. If so, what do we think? And what do we think is happening there? They're like halfway through the first season, maybe there's been like four episodes. Um, I don't know. I don't even, I don't even know if all of us have seen this. I know that Dave and I have, so I haven't. So I can't really just go down the line. We'll go down the line and play one real quick, Dave.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, me and John talked about this the other day. I love those first three episodes and I'm in the minority. I hated this fourth episode. I don't want anything else, but the sit-com just the sit, calm. Nothing else can be, be witched with these two characters and nothing else, and that's not going to happen. So I might be dropping off.

Speaker 1:

The main characters are trapped in a fictional universe with inside the reality of the show and the plot device to move them through this artificial world is the characters are managing themselves trapped in famous sitcoms, but it's not real. And I'm like, it's funny. And the Marvel universe or DC for that matter take note, they could have a show that isn't sit-com like DC has booster gold was a guy in the future who travels back in time because he wants to be a hero. But it's very much like a television reality star. That would be a funny sit-com or Deadpool. And Marvel would make a funny power show, you know, like, so you can do it. There's a lot of like B-list benchwarmer characters in both universities that wouldn't cost a lot of money and they could throw them out like great lakes, Avengers or whatever. Right. They could do these things, but there's nowhere for one division to go. If they don't ever leave the plot device they're using just to give the show elements. Like that's not what the show is really about. It's just a gimmick, right? They're trying to get through the gag to get you somewhere. So for my, for my stake in watching the show, uh, it's going wear on me and I don't want them to stay in the sitcom universe because that's not what the show actually is. It's all a mind. So they're going to move past the mind fuckery and get down to like, you know, like they notice level fighting or something again, you know what I mean? So

Speaker 6:

Yeah, we were on such opposite ends. I think we both like it, but I just like the sitcom and nothing else.

Speaker 1:

Like they're doing this thing now where just like comic books. Remember when you had to like pick up Spiderman four 57, but then the story continued to punish her six 63. You know what I mean? Like, so that's what they're doing in their movies and TV shows. It's like one vision is setting something up for Spiderman three and Spider-Man three is setting somebody up for, for, you know, Dr. Strange too. You know what I mean? So it's like, that's, what's going to happen is they're going to Marvel and Disney are like, we're going to get them everywhere. They're going to have to watch the show to understand the movie, to, you know, watch the next show. And like

Speaker 6:

That's where they lose me. Like, I don't want to watch 20 other things to understand one movie. Like that's stupid. I'm sorry. It just is

Speaker 1:

Each, each story should be self-contained it suddenly you combined the words, soup and stupid into one word, eat a bowl of soup.

Speaker 6:

I know I'm in the minority here. I know people love MCU and I don't dislike the MCU, but like sometimes I just want my entertainment to be self-contained. I just don't want to do a research to watch something that's two hours, like

Speaker 1:

Five episodes before Adam was a comic artist and he way into comics. Adam knows a lot about comics. If we have common questions, we should direct them probably to Adam. I mean, I just remember reading comics mostly in the nineties. So I remember these older stories. I don't really can't really keep up with the new stuff and the movies are catching up to like the stories that I read and they're turning those into movies, which I think is cool. But, um, and they changed a couple of things to trick people or to move things around. But, um, like the origin of division is different in the movies and the books. But, um, I'm trying to figure out where I'm going with this. Uh, where am I going with this? Oh, I, I wish Adam would watch some of these movies, but he has a thing about Disney, right? So that gets under his skin and mostly it's their like their politics and their, and their, um, ideology and like, uh, their conduct with like how they absorb all these other. And I understand, I get it to some level. I respect everything and I respect the monopoly in what they're doing and like what they do to creators when courageous, like color outside the lines and Disney crucifies them. I get it. But I still love some of the stuff they're cranking out. So, you know, it's really a difficult relationship that I have with Disney plus right now, because I love Mandalorian. But Adam, I know you would like some of the movies that they've made, like you would probably like the captain America movie, you might like some of the infinity war stuff. Like there's some would love comedy and it's, um, Tyco YTT or whatever his name

Speaker 3:

Is. Um, which one I butcher his name and I apologize if he ever hears me say his name, our relationship, because I have a hard time saying his name, but he's the guy we did Jojo rabbit and what we do in the shadows. And, um, the movie we watched a few weeks ago, so I know you would love the store three.

Speaker 4:

I might've seen it. Um, I, Disney boycott was sporadic. Uh, I just had to watch it like a friend's house or something. I just didn't want any of my money to go to them because I shouldn't say that out. I shouldn't say that out loud.

Speaker 3:

You're going to get a job five years from now. They're going to come haunt you.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. They were like, Oh, we know, uh, HR needs to give you a little talk, Mr. Uh, yeah, no, no. I mean like, look, they make quality work. I just don't like domination. I don't like it. I want the underdog to win. I want the little guy to win. I want, you know, the small intellectual property to, you know, survive in a marketplace where everything gets gobbled up by two, three companies. I just, you know, that's how I look at the world. That's who I want to win. I want the filmmaker, that's got a hundred thousand dollars budget to be able to make a movie that grosses a hundred million and change his life and start a production company and help other people make more movies, movies that are great. You know, that's what I, so it's all a part of how I look at the world. So that's a huge deviation from what we're talking about. Let's talk about that. Terrible CG knife and warlock Armageddon. Wow.

Speaker 3:

I want to still want to Nick's catchphrases unless he knows what he should say in this moment.

Speaker 4:

Uh,

Speaker 3:

You want me to say that right now? Oh, she got real late. I think you're telling me like, the show just ended right there. Uh, we did not share the opinion of Adam.[inaudible] what I think is going to happen. Now. I personally hope to work for Disney. Yes. Uh, I was just going to say, I see, I think Adam just drew first blood. Now Disney is going to buy the show and crush us. Thanks Adam.

Speaker 4:

They're going to rehire.

Speaker 3:

I will work for you. They're going to hire everybody different people. They're going to hire all of you back. I didn't say at the beginning of the show, we talked about how he sold soda. I won't, if an opportunity arises, I'll be there. You just said we're going to not sell to Disney. Uh, binge watch podcast brought to you

Speaker 1:

By Disney. And it's like four, no dudes. It's not us at all. It's like, they have our names, every names they use. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6:

Another slicker version looking nervous. I like it. I like it.

Speaker 1:

Wow. Here's AAA Johnny dealer. Yeah. It wouldn't be something else because they crushed spoilers online. Right? Like anything that leaks, they kill it. Like, so it'd be like, I don't know what it would be like. Dylan curious, Dave, Johnny. No details with the premise. You don't to be like, Oh man, that's too good.

Speaker 6:

Pretty soon. I'm going to get a cease and desist letter saying I can't be called dangerous Dave anymore because they own the name.

Speaker 1:

Oh dude. Wow. Wow. Wow. I never thought I had that eradicated it. So I'm looking for things to watch. I need to ask my buddies what I should be watching. Uh, Hey Nick, what should I watch?

Speaker 5:

Well, I gotta, I got a treat for you, John. I got two guys they're young and they're starting their careers in life. One's a cop trying to make it, to make it up to the highest ranks possible. And another guy's a bad guy trying to he's he's trying to like get into the scene and become this tough drug dealer. Right? So they both of course meet in one night at this it's like fate, they meet. And then of course the cop takes down the bad guy and then the bad guy goes to jail. And then years later the bad guy gets out and then gets revenge. Wants to, all he wants to do is get revenge on the cop that put him down because they were both going at at like, they met, like, it was almost serendipity that they met because if they didn't meet either one would have got where they would have got. But then the bad guys going out and getting revenge.

Speaker 1:

I'm so confused with what you're talking about.

Speaker 5:

Oh my gosh. It's called. Ricocheted is with Denzel Washington and John liftoff. It's an amazing movie. I totally bombed that. Oh my gosh. I'm so embarrassed. Oh, nevermind.

Speaker 1:

For a second. There. I was just imagining the club scenes from the Miami vice remake.

Speaker 5:

I probably would have. Yeah. I mean, it was in the nineties. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

For a moment until you said cops, I was thinking like, is he talking about old boy? Or what, what, like, what do you mean? Number of revenge movies

Speaker 5:

Kind of describe it without giving you guys like the main characters, you know? And I, that's where I messed up, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Wow. But it's a, it's a good movie. It's a good movie. I don't know about nightclubs and cops. I asked thought for a second, maybe you were talking about, we own the night so I can not give you a can award you.

Speaker 5:

I don't blame anyone. I probably bombed. I, you know, I'm

Speaker 6:

Going to give you a half a point because of your enthusiasm. And also because I watched this recently and I could be convinced to watch it again. It was a fun movie.

Speaker 3:

It's so good, dude. It's so good. The only reason I want to give you a full point is because mine is probably going to sound a lot like yours. Oh, I like, I think I'm going to give you a full point. Yes. Yeah. All right. I got one and a half to get an early lead. 1.5 and a half. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

Um, all right, so there's this Disney movie. No, gosh,

Speaker 3:

No points. This,

Speaker 6:

Uh, I watched how man, this is a good week. I watched a lot of good things, but the thing I'm going to pitch you on is Pan's labyrinth. I don't know the last time if you guys seen that movie. Oh my God. That movie holds up so well, um, I mean much like this movie, it's a fantasy. It's definitely are much like warlock. I mean, it's a fantasy. Um, a lot of great practical effects. I mean, anything we complained about warlock was that you don't have that problem with this movie. Um, girl, uh, do I need to describe Pan's labyrinth to everybody? I think it's kind of like a pretty well-known movie at this point.

Speaker 3:

Nah, I'd say describing it. Cause that's, that's the pitch. I'm not too sure if I want to watch it again, Dave.

Speaker 6:

All right. Well, young girl in a war torn, uh, Spain in the world, war II has to move with her mom to a new General's house. The general is a really bad guy. Crushes people's face ends with wine bottles. Um, and she also gets stuck in the lower world. Um, with font, the fawn, God, I die. Yeah. I'm going to lose because I can't think how to describe this movie. Well, um, um, why should you see this? Because this movie, even though it's a fantasy, it's also the most realistic movie. Like the spirit, the fantasy world is evil in the world,

Speaker 3:

Just as evil. I should've just cut this whole segment tonight

Speaker 6:

And you're like, Hey, describe it more. All right. I guess,

Speaker 3:

Hey, I saw a movie called Pan's labyrinth and I know you've seen it already, but what do you do? You're like, Hey, you want to watch kids labyrinth. Sometimes that's all you need.

Speaker 6:

You should watch it because it's like a great fantasy with some of the best special effects and practical effects in a long time. Since the thing, even though they're very different movies, I feel like you're just digging yourself a grave now. Yeah. I've I've accepted loss at this point.

Speaker 3:

Oh wow. Hey guys, what do you think? What do you guys give dude? Nothing. Uh, Dave. I'm, I'm sorry. I'm going to have to give you a zero just because I'm going. I love that movie, but I'm going off your pitch man, going off there. Yeah. Okay. I don't want Dave to feel bad about himself, so I'm going to give them half a point. Oh my God. The point. Thanks. Hey, it's Pan's labyrinth. Okay. Johnny, what about you? So it's a movie about amaze. I guess what I can gather from that title. Yes, it has David Bowie and a crop. Oh, I thought, I mean, I'm sorry, John, what was your thought? We're going out of order here. Okay. Oh no. I started, you didn't hear me. I said nothing.

Speaker 4:

Wow. That sounds like an interesting movie. So, okay. I was gonna try to sneak in the little things, uh, knowing that two of you have seen already, but I guess I'm not going to do that. Now. I watched a movie called, uh, the claw, the devil and it, yeah. And, and it starts off, uh, with this guy brings us his, you know, his bride home and his parents have never met her before. Actually it's like, as an aunt and uncle, maybe it's his parents anyway. They they're like, Oh hell no, you're not going to marry this girl. So they S they put their, like, they start messing with her and snubbing her. And then they put her in the uncles, all bedroom. Cause it'd be in, they wanted to go home, but it's it's night and it's dangerous outside. So they said they sent her up in the attic. And while she's in the attic, she's attacked, the door is locked and she's attacked by some crazy creature that comes up through the floorboards. That's in the crawl space in between the attic and the regular house. And, uh, she's never the same. They Carter off to the loony bed. And then these kids in the, around the town started start, you know, killing each other and, and having orgies and, and they're all, uh, they're all turning against and, and, uh, the people of the town and absorbing more and more people into their little cult, this shutter movie, it is on shutter. Yeah. It's, uh, I think it's like 1973, but, and it was shot in, uh, England. And it is, it's a kind of a treat. It has scenes in the movie that were very shocking, like shocking, shocking. Like I was like, uh, and, uh, I dunno, so solid recommend for me, just these weird little movies that make you feel uncomfortable and, and it, and it, it brings up,

Speaker 3:

You said right there, you should have said, it's a weird little movie that makes you comfortable. It's called claws of the devil. It has a monster. I'll give you, I'm going to give him a point too, because like, I think the monster that's crawling between the floor spaces. That sounds interesting to me.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. There's a lot going on in the movie. I look, no, my pitch was long. Sorry, John, what about you?

Speaker 1:

I actually did watch the little things.

Speaker 4:

What about for your point though?

Speaker 1:

I did watch the little things. I like to pose a question for why you should watch it actually. Um, do you guys like mystery movies? And if you like mystery movies, detective movies, where they're trying to solve a crime, if you like trying to solve the murderer, you know, they're murders before the detectives, then you'll like the little things. If I tell you more about it, it'll ruin the ending. That's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 4:

My favorite part of the little things is when Denzel Washington gets on the ship with the aliens, the happened in that movie. Uh, I, yeah, God, I don't know, I guess,

Speaker 1:

Based on your description, but I've seen it and I just don't want to see it again.

Speaker 4:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

I have a point based off of his description, but I know what it is.

Speaker 4:

Hold on. John's description. Some of this is zero, no point. Wow. I need to know what if John gave me a point or not? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I asked John. Did you give him a point?

Speaker 1:

And so little things indicated, you know what that meant?

Speaker 4:

Yeah. I didn't hear a, uh, you know,

Speaker 1:

Bias because if we don't like what somebody says about their movie, then we don't award that at all.

Speaker 4:

No, no, no. I just, just add a few pure clerical. You know

Speaker 1:

What you had to say? Like, no point then, like when you're in like a story writing class, like, Hey, everybody's going to read, they're seeing they wrote today. And like, it's really hard to be self-critical and figure out the flaws of like your thing. Like, I know I stumbled in my little things thing, but am I really telling you about the end? Nobody will watch it at all. Um, and I, and there's like a 50, 50 split online. Like some people like it, some people don't and Dave has already seen it. So he's already formed an opinion. So it was hard to just hear off of pitch. I get that. Um, but what I said about your thing, Adam was like, it was taking so long for me to listen to like what it was. If you just literally said what I said, like, Hey, there's always on shutter right now. It's in the seventies. There's a fricking monster and kids are going nuts. Okay. Then I might go cue it up. You know what I mean? But like this happens, this happens, this happens. This happens. This happens. This happens.

Speaker 4:

No, it wasn't. All this happens.

Speaker 1:

You usually have a strong description, but tonight,

Speaker 4:

Oh, I was all over the place. Yeah, no, I, I, all I did

Speaker 1:

In retrospect, Dave, just saying, I watched Pan's labyrinth. What do you think? Like, it's probably the strongest pitch. So

Speaker 5:

Next week I come in and say, I watched Terminator two. You should see it. Oh my gosh. Okay. We'll come up with the name of a movie. None of us have heard before and say the name of the movie. And then it's all dependent on whether or not the movie. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

We've been, this has been going pretty good. This is like one of the, this is just not one of the better ones.

Speaker 5:

This is one of our weakest rounds. Yeah. I agree.

Speaker 6:

Actually, cause we had a round last week were pretty much everybody. One until we had a,

Speaker 5:

And I actually felt like each one of us really did bomb this week, which is funny because

Speaker 6:

It's hard pitching a movie that we've all seen. Cause like, how are you going to say something new about it? Like my choices this week, we're either Pan's labyrinth or seven. Like,

Speaker 1:

So those movies who are naturally attaching, it has to be movies. None of us have seen because we're naturally our minds are already going to a place that we know the movie. You know what I mean? Like it, for the same reason, like, well, we can't cover all the movies that the fan suggest is because there's been so many conversations about certain movies. What else would you say? Right. Same kind of logic dictates. I think it's similar, similar, similar thinking.

Speaker 6:

I'm just going to go back to the old school way of just tell you what I watched and like whatever was the best thing. Whether I think you guys are going to like it or not. I'm just going to try to pitch that to you. Cause like, if I pitch the best new thing I saw this week, I should have pitched the 40 year old version, but I didn't think I could sell them.

Speaker 5:

That sounds great. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

Not the Virgin version. It's a new one. I don't know if you've seen that. Oh no. Oh

Speaker 1:

Wait, wait. That's on Netflix, right? Yeah.

Speaker 6:

It's actually, I thought it was a documentary and when I turned it on, it turned out to be in here

Speaker 1:

40 something year old playwright. That's being pushed out by some other playwrights. Right.

Speaker 6:

Um, basically, I mean, watch it like she is, she basically gets a gig writing for a show. She calls things like, uh, movies about people struggling, poverty porn. Like that's a big theme in the movie is like, I don't want to just write poverty porn or right. I don't know again, I'm not pitching this now, but yeah, it's a bachelor.

Speaker 5:

Give you a point for that day.

Speaker 1:

By the second movie it's

Speaker 6:

Shot about like clerks is like old school, black

Speaker 5:

And white. I liked it.

Speaker 1:

I think Nick was getting ready to tell people.

Speaker 5:

Oh yes. Yes. So guys, um, don't forget to visit us on social, drop us an email or reach out with the movie review, request the tune in next week because we're going to talk about more bad romances and this one's a good one, guys. We're going to be talking about young guns too. We're going to talk about bromances. So anyways guys is Nikki T was, you know, well stuff got real. So.