Back In The Day: Warlock '89

Tonight’s movie is a hidden gem among horror movie rentals! WARLOCK 1989.

We make some jokes about an accident during last week’s live stream before discussing this week’s Home Video Headlines:

• Godzilla Versus King, our issues with Godzilla being the villain again
• A non-spoiler mini-review of PG: Psycho Goreman
• Alien Nation reboot potentially becoming a Disney Plus mini-series
•  Whether or not we think you should be able to buy and sell video on demand codes

Tonight’s movie is a hidden gem among horror movie rentals. I think people know of it, but are still questioning whether or not to watch it.  This movie has a great director, great actors, and a great premise. 

In 17th-century New England, witch hunter Giles Redferne (Richard E. Grant) captures an evil warlock (Julian Sands), but the conjurer eludes death with supernatural help. Flung into the future, the warlock winds up in the 1980s and plans to bring about the end of the world. Redferne follows the enchanter into the modern era and continues his mission, but runs into trouble in such unfamiliar surroundings. With the help of a young woman (Lori Singer), can Redferne finally defeat the warlock?

Directed by Steve Miner. He did Friday the 13th Part 2, Part 3, House, Forever Young, My Father The Hero, Halloween H20,  and Lake Placid. He looked at the script and recognized the main characters being the warlock and the witch hunter were fresh off the boat from England in colonial America, so he had the good sense to get some amazing British actors.

Julian Sands sat on the script for a while assuming it was run of the mill slasher material, and then he understood there was a dark sense of humor running through the tone of the story.

Richard Grant supposedly comes in for the Warlock part and then gets the chance to play the hero named Giles Redferne.

Highlights from our first impressions include: 

• “Julian Sands steals the show.” 
• “Not as good as I remember.”
• “This movie is alive. Big kick out of it.”
• “Scary, if you believe in good and evil.”

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Our favorite bits from Warlock include the tongue biting scene, the action with the weather vane, and the methodology of how the black magic and its deterrents work in this film.

Don’t forget to visit us on social, drop us an email, or reach out with a movie review request, but tune in next week as we talk about THE BAD ROMANCES IN WARLOCK 2. We’re switching gears and going into a month filled with bad romances, bromances, and bad friendships. Lates!!!

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Correct open a cold box of wine or pour something cold on ice because it's the binge watches.[inaudible]

Speaker 2: 0:35

If you're just joining us last time, I've been watching podcast, you know, I was considering just throwing a co-host under the bus right now. Actually. I'm kidding about that part. You know, happens when you do a live show. We had a mic go down, it created kind of a feedback loop last week. So every once in a while, that episode sounded like we were recording from the Batcave, but reverb is a real and editing my reaction was pretty, nucular followed by 10 minutes of Bowie and some crying like, gosh, I want to cry in mean John or like Bowie meet me all crying. The only one. Um, well, before we dealt with tonight's movie, let's hit those home video headlines that everybody loves, um, without giving this movie away, if it's possible, we'll do a mini review right now. This brand new movie called PG cycle Gorman. We'll try not to spoil it for you. That's our reputation, but it's from one of the creators of the horror movie, the Boyd, it looks like sh shutter is like a distribution partner or like a production partner on the movie. But essentially it's a horror movie. Um, a Brady little girl and her very loyal brother dig up an ancient alien overlord. He's supposed to destroy the universe, but he gets stuck under their control. And, uh, zany chaos ensues, I guess, is what you could say. The movies about, um, the town town's folks were out there, mercy. Right? Um, I liked it a lot. What'd you think, Dave? Um, well, I watched it twice in the span of this weekend. So that should tell you something, Oh wow. This movie. Why don't you Dave? Why don't you say, why don't you just tell the fans at home what you said pre-show about, about what the podcast should be about the movie we should talk about for a whole episode. I mean, this is not the main feature of the show, but like, I, I'm more excited to talk about this then the main feature of the show this week. Like I love this movie. This is like the best like nineties kids show with a lot of Gore that was never made. And I love it so much. Huh. Interesting. Uh, Nick, what do you think? I had such a fun time with this, you know, like it was almost like she had like her Terminator, like John

Speaker 3: 3:00

Connor did, you know, I really had a great time with this. The effects were great. I loved every time you talked to the kids and he had some crazy comments to come back, all right, I'm going to kill you, but he can't do it. So I do not like hunky boys. Yes. It's so good. Yeah. I really, I, I, this is way early. It's only January, but this is already like top of my list. So far, this year of 2021 mummies meet me too.

Speaker 2: 3:37

Fair enough. Uh, Adam, your, your thoughts quickly on this up

Speaker 3: 3:43

Undeniably fun. And uh, I have to say like, uh, the filmmakers seem like they went back to their like man Borg roots and try and figure it out. How to make that work after making a really serious, a horror film, the movie, which is like one of my favorites from last year,

Speaker 2: 4:01

Nineties, rotoscoping power Rangers, esque, special effects worked really well with all the bloodshed. And that's what they're comparing it to like a, uh, an unrated power Rangers romp through the universe kind of deal. Um, yeah. Check it out. Everybody it's on demand right now. Um, I assume at some point, because shutter was, was a partner, they're probably gonna put it on their platform at some point. Um, now, uh, let's get into this. They dropped the trailer today, the full first trailer or whatever for Godzilla vs Kong, which is like a remake. I mean, they made one in the sixties, but this is the new monster verse for the Godzilla movies and calm across in the franchises again. And they officially, you know, put it right out there on the trailer. That Godzilla is the villain again. Um, thoughts on that one? It,

Speaker 3: 4:47

Oh, I love it. I I'm actually excited to see what Adam, uh, what is it? Ringer? What was his, I forgot his last name, but the director. Yeah. Didn't he do the guest. Yes. Yeah. I love that director. So I'm really fascinated to see what he does with, uh, gutsy silvers King Kong. I think it looks great. I'm excited. I will, I would have loved to have seen him in the theater, I guess that's my one complaint. You know, this, it seems like a theater movie, not a home video movie. We could set up a theater in your home, I guess. That's the next big thing

Speaker 2: 5:24

Back to the streaming argument, right? Like, which we will get. I don't care. Like I like, I love whom video and like, I, I cared more about VHS and DVD disappearing than I do about like movies playing in the theater. But I know Dan going to harp a bone on this one, cause he's a, he's a theater boy wants to sit there. It's those bucket seats and somebody sticky Coca-Cola stains. And he wants to sit there with his popcorn, watch it on big screen, you know, but, uh, both,

Speaker 3: 5:49

You know,

Speaker 2: 5:52

Um, my, my, my hope is this, like they made Godzilla the bill and the last one and it's basically, Carnegie's America, Godzilla, Japan. It's almost the same nationalist argument. You know, here, here's con here's Godzilla in the new movies. Godzilla. Hasn't been the bill and he's been duking it out with other Titans as they call it monsters. And, but they're saying he's got like a, something up is something something's bothering him. So he's like add a control, you know, like he's in heat or something, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like or whatever. So he's a little out of his mind, but, uh, yeah. Um, do we hit everybody? Did everybody get a chance to talk about Godzilla

Speaker 4: 6:36

Godzilla being the villain as kind of a, I'm a Godzilla fan. And I feel I was rooting for Godzilla in the old movie. Yeah. It's like hard to watch by modern standards. You just kind of have to imagine your kid. I mean, I still remember that from like arguing in elementary school who ought to win. And I was like, Pete, some kid spoiled it for me, a little Johnny spoiler.

Speaker 5: 7:03

It wasn't you. But it was some other little Johnny's.

Speaker 4: 7:06

I mean, just a euphemism. Okay. So like a Butterfinger hitting on girl, you know, you was, you know, it was, and he was like, Oh yeah, man, like, you know, King Kong wins. Ha you know, I was like, no, this gotta be a lie. There's no way, you know, I just had, I mean, he's got the atomic breath, you know, it's just, you get it. I'm going to ruin part of the trailer now. Yeah. That part looks awesome.

Speaker 2: 7:34

They give King Kong and a battleax and his battleax observed absorbs the atomic fire that, that Godzilla spits out. And then he hits Godzilla with it. So take that Godzilla. So apparently, I didn't know. The giant apes that King Kong is descended from apparently are involved in tool construction.[inaudible]

Speaker 5: 7:56

Related to the apes in 2001. That's what I'm saying. I think that humans gave it to

Speaker 2: 8:04

Usually like King Kong puts his hand on a door that has this pop print on it. The door opens and there's a perfectly constructed battleax that looks like it was forged somewhere, you know,

Speaker 4: 8:13

Have obviously dressed King Kong up to display him. And they gave him an ax, which is just ridiculous. He should not, he shouldn't even know how to use it. Does he speak English to your mind?

Speaker 2: 8:28

The trailer? He is filing taxes and applying for citizenship. So I hope at some point he's like throwing barrels, like donkey Kong, just like,

Speaker 4: 8:38

It's funny that it has to be in that order too. Um,

Speaker 5: 8:44

Godzilla's the villain. Does that mean that King Kong is going?

Speaker 4: 8:49

Yeah, basically. You already know.

Speaker 5: 8:51

I mean it, you know what I mean? If it's a verse battle, you know, usually no,

Speaker 2: 8:56

Just Japan get destroyed. There's another monster. There's a third monster that the trailer may or may not have revealed that's what's going to happen. And then, and then, uh, and then they have sex. Then, then they have hybrid egg babies of giant monster, like half lizard, half Kong. I don't know. Many people thought Godzilla is asexual. And in the seventies it had that little talking lizard son. Oh yeah. Nobody knows how it got there. So are you speculating that it's a half a mil is absolutely female. Oh, you think so? Yeah. Well, I don't know. We're not going to talk about the sexuality of giant monsters for too much longer. All he sees, he's a frog. He can change. Well, I think it laid eggs in like the 98 one with Matthew Broderick. If I remember right. Yup. Email on that one, but that isn't Canon, so it doesn't matter. Yeah. So just whatever giant lizard comes up from the deep they just call Godzilla. It's a, Oh, it's a big lizard. It's God. Now you're getting into, to like the Japanese series where there's been three different. Godzilla's like, it's the same. It's not the same light form. It's like a different one. Yeah. It could be, you know, a male, one, a female, one, the, the son of Godzilla. How would you make it to tonight's movie? I don't know. I was just thinking that we can spend an hour on PG Gorman. We could spend an hour. I wouldn't mind doing that over. I'm just saying you're doing like the Godzilla run or the RPG. Oh, okay. Uh, well, um, we can always wish. Okay. Uh, Dave found this thing because like we recently did an episode on alienation right back in the day we, we re revisited rewashed Elaine nation movie and then discussed our love for the alienation show. Um, we brought up that, you know, Disney scooped up all the Fox properties, including alienation. There was a reboot on the table and then it disappeared. We were speculating something. I think we hit on, touched on, you know, what if Disney plus scooped it up, possibly made a mini series. And then Dave clicking into Facebook messenger a little while ago, some late breaking news here. He, uh, found an article about Jeff Nichols who had written the reboot. And then he preemptively turned his script into a 10 episode mini series, which is that's pretty cool. So we were kind of right. Like they're going to probably lean into and mini series on Disney plus for alienation. We're on the pulse of it, gentlemen. Yeah. I'll be excited if they go through with it. Cause Jeff Nichols is an interesting filmmaker. Um, yeah. Check out either midnight, midnight special or take shelter. Good guy, good director. And then go back and listen to our alienation episode. If you haven't already got to, that's a build with them. When did we do that one? John? How long ago was that? Yeah, it seemed recent. Yeah. It was fairly recent. Uh, Oh. Um, I seems like I do spend a lot of time talking about this one movie that I like, just for the sake of it. It's the, what if the snow hall? I think I've already mentioned it. Maybe. Did I say it earlier? I don't know. Maybe I said it before the show, but um, so it's hard to send your friend a movie, like an on-demand. Like if you just want to send somebody something it's like, you can maybe get an Amazon gift card, but you can't go to like voodoo and just buy them voodoo credits and you can't go to like, uh, Amazon prime and you'd be like, I want to give this one movie away to my buddy. Um, so even a psycho Borman, I was like, how do I get these guys to get this movie so that we can talk about it? And I'm like, okay, well ultimately I just PayPal my buddies to watch this movie when like, it should be a lot easier to send those video on demands. And then Dave, Dave got real dangerous as he likes to do. He sent me this thing about like these websites that buying and sell on demand video codes. And I'm like, how legal can that be to have this kind of market set up online? And then I looked into it and it was like, so the code comes with something that you buy. Like if you buy a movie, you might get a coat. Or if you buy a DVD, you get a code. But then if this, how to geek article, like how to get.com or whatever, I had this great article and I was reading it and they like illustrate like what, the, the rights that you have to deal with, whatever, by looking up like general law codes and S and civil codes and copyright codes, they put together this pretty nifty article. It essentially boils down to this. Like, you buy something, you have the right to do with whatever you want. But then if somebody then buys it from you and they're not the originator of this code, um, cause it came with whatever was sold for they're in more of a pickle than you are. Right. So just generally, like which side of the argument of this, are you guys on like a Nicki lates? Like, what's your opinion on like swapping codes and stuff. And like having these websites that are just like, yeah, you wanna, you want a movie code and then you buy it from them and then you use it.

Speaker 5: 13:55

I say, do it. I mean, they make it so complicated. Like you said, it's too hard to like, Hey, I want you to watch this movie. I'm all for this site.

Speaker 2: 14:04

Yeah. Like I like this movie and I want you to go to watch it, to get you this rental, but then like, you can't even give somebody a rental. Yeah.

Speaker 5: 14:10

I'm all for this. I think it's a good idea.

Speaker 2: 14:13

Dave, what do you, what are your thoughts on this? Well,

Speaker 5: 14:15

I clearly sent you to the website so I don't have home with it. So I bought, I bought many digital copies this way. A lot of times they like their mom and pop shops that like, you know, sell off the codes or things or people who just bought it and don't want the code. So they sell it to somebody and then David just dropped the mic.

Speaker 2: 14:36

So Adam, you want to weigh in on this one? Yeah. This is a travesty guys. You guys are just destroying the movie industry. Like yeah, you get the, you want to sell off

Speaker 4: 14:52

The code, keep the hard copy and have somebody else watch it online. No biggie. I mean, I don't think, uh, some of the bigger institutions are, would, might be happy. They might look at it as I'm kinda cheating loophole or I dunno how they could make that case. To be honest with you. No, this is perfectly fine. Like a secondary market is fine,

Speaker 2: 15:11

You know, it's weird. Like I don't want to really break the rules, but I do want to watch movies and I want it to be easy to watch the movies. And like, I love video on demand. I love the consumer. It's a consumer market now. It's like, it's, it's like, you know, they say like, Oh, it's a buyer's market for houses or no, it's a sellers market where houses are like, there's a lot of things that are out of our control as consumers. But like on-demand stuff is, it's mostly pro-consumer except for like expiring video on a man's like move on and Disney plus like, so that's a problem. You can watch our, you can watch wonder woman too, but only for 30 days. And then if he didn't see it in theater or whatever day, you gotta wait for the regular release, whatever, something like that, you know, is an issue. But I don't like, like long-term rentals, like I'm cruising through my Comcast DVR right. Of things that I've purchased for my kids. And like the movies are gone right for this comedy. They're like about the guys that it's called, let's be cops and the two buddies pretending to cops in LA Daymond, Wayne Dunn. What's his name? Damon wins. Jr. They just erased it. And uh, and Joshua Jackson, no, he's the guy from Dustin's Creek. Oh, Nick, Nick, um, play plays a character named Nick, but his name is like Jake Johnson, Jay Johnson. Anyway, there's really funny in this movie. And like, I, I swear, I bought that like three years ago I went through, I was cruising through it. I'm like, Oh, it's gone. And it was like, wow. Um, yeah. Well the concept of a long-term rental is like, really like, so, so essentially you don't own any of your, your video on demand, even if you are the direct consumer, none of that. You don't really own any of them.

Speaker 3: 16:55

You own a physical copy like Dave, or are there[inaudible]

Speaker 2: 17:00

That, that bums me out and kind of gets under, under my skin a little bit, but yeah.

Speaker 4: 17:03

Are we the last generation that can like grab clips easily and, and show off like cinema techniques or have a film professor, like show off how a filmmaker did a specific kind of scene or whatever. Like now you got to ask, how do you even get a copy in the future? How do even teach a class like, Oh,

Speaker 2: 17:27

That, um, we might be touching on something else that I was thinking about. Like, you know, Dave was saying before the show, he watched the documentary behind the scenes to get ready for tonight's episode, for the main feature we're talking about. Right. So a lot of video on demand has no features. There are instructions. There's no, like, as, as Adam just said, how the filmmaker did something, like where's all that stuff going to go. It's almost like you could have an on-demand feature, like a service where it just shows you that stuff. Here's all the feature ads. It's a feature at channel. You know what I mean? Like all that stuff, uh, some services carries some features, but it's not every single thing.

Speaker 4: 18:04

Well, I guess in theory, he could bring in like the video unit and then I'll just have like five or six different like films and then he'll like type it in and then pull the movie up and then fast forward it to the, you know, the right minute or whatever, and then play it for the class. But,

Speaker 2: 18:25

Well, another thing that blows my mind is editing a movie, editing a movie after the fact, many years later, the version of release than it is, you know?

Speaker 4: 18:34

Yeah. Well, how are you going to have the old copy? If nobody has any of the old copies, they could change anything. They could delete anything

Speaker 2: 18:42

Like every two years. That's not true.

Speaker 4: 18:45

Did you hear about the project where the guy restored the original star Wars and he released it? It's amazing. It's starkly different there's shots in there. I've never seen in any of the redos. Really fantastic. That sounds about right. Yeah. And it's, you know, it's all stuff that we could go out and make. If we had enough time in a really cool garage,

Speaker 2: 19:14

We're going along the news headline section. All

Speaker 4: 19:17

Right,

Speaker 2: 19:20

Here we go. You guys ready for this? All right. I'm going to tell this story. So hold onto your hats. Okay. I'm holding. Yeah. Tonight's movies, a hidden gem among horror movie rentals. I think people know of it, but they're still questioning whether or not to watch it. This movie has a great director, great actors, and a great premise. The script survived many changes, but still had enough lifeblood beating through it through all the different cuts and the score also well done. Somehow the movie attracted the handful of talented filmmakers and then got shelved for two years, but by another studio and released on video as the biggest hit from tri Mark originally owned by new world. Um, of course, I'm talking about warlock 1989. This is what the movie's about in 17th century, new England, which Hunter gov or Giles Redfern played by Richard Grant captures. And Eva warlock played by Julian sands, but the conjurer alludes death with supernatural help flung into the future of the warlock winds up in the eighties and plans to bring about the end of the world. Redfern follows the, and she entered the modern era and continues admission runs into trouble because he's not used to the future with the help of a young woman played by Lori singer can Redfern defeat. The warlock has the question of the movie directed by Steve miner. If you remember, he did Friday, 13th part two Friday, 13th, part three, he didn't house. He did forever young. He did my father, the hero who was actually the second unit director on night of the creeps, which was last week. Um, he did Halloween H2O Lake Placid. Then later on his career, he gets nominated for some Emmys. He worked on wonder years actually, um, and then worked at, and he's still working into the 2000. So what's interesting about him was he looked at the script and he could recognize that the main characters being both the warlock and the witch Hunter are fresh off the boat from England in colonial American time. So he had the good sense to get some amazing British actors. Now, Julian sands some script for awhile, assuming that this is the runner of a mil slasher material. And then he understands in a way it has a dark sense of humor burning through the whole tone of the story. Uh, Richard Grant, supposedly first came in for the warlock part and then gets a chance to play the hero. Again, his name is Charles Redfern. Um, one thing that actually bothers me and kind of bums me out is if it's true, it's a rumor. I don't know if this is actually trivia or this really happened. Supposedly Lori singer was she's the third lead. Supposedly she's mad about the makeup artists, uh, and wants them to get rid of the, all the prosthetics they use because she gets cursed in the movie. It's an, it's a slow killing age curse where she's going to age 20 years every day until she dies essentially from old age, but still the makeup was hideous, which it should be. It's a horror movie. And so she ditched the makeup that they made, which is a problem because when people watch this movie, if you look at the reviews online and, and like when it came out is they complained about the, the makeup effects on Lori single's character. It's kind of like a Oh, duh thing. Yeah. If you ditch the makeup that they spent the time working on and you have acid. Yeah. It's going to be a complaint. But, um, if we get back into the screenwriting for a second, cause it's, it's well-written as well, David too, he he's a good writer. I probably butchered his name, but whatever. Um, he's got genre credits like pitch-black critters to fugitive GIJ and et cetera. Supposedly he spends like six to eight weeks riding the warlock as a persecuted protagonist during the Salem witch trial era. But then they flipped it. They added time-travel. And then instead of being a doomed hero, the warlock becomes the villain. I think that more like movie would be so interesting and maybe they can make it, I don't know, one day like go the other way, the way they intended and still make it a horror film might be interesting. Um, if like the witch hunters bad. Uh, so they shot the movie in three historical locations, the original Plymouth plantations, which actually been in Massachusetts since about the 16 hundreds, the George Washington in house, which is the one of the only colonial design homes in California. And that's where they shot, like all the barn stuff and everything with the Mennonites in the movie. And then, um, the Bonneville salt flats, which are in Utah, outside of salt Lake, which is like, well, according to the movie, like the most salt in the, in the world, I don't know if that's true, but the salt flats are there. Um, and then Jerry Goldsmith, this is for you, Nick, since he loves scores, he actually made a score, um, a little bit longer than the actual runtime in the movie. And they had to cut his score down to fit the length of the movie, how they used to do that. The movie, the movie is holding up because of the, the actors, but the special effects are obviously outdated, but the score, the music still holds up.

Speaker 3: 23:51

Jerry, Goldsmith's incredible. You can't

Speaker 2: 23:53

Go wrong. And then what's the legacy of this movie. So there's two sequels, one with the original warlock actor, Julian sands, which is called warlock to the Armageddon, or just more like the Armageddon, depending on what you're reading. You see, there was a novelization, which I didn't even know until I started looking up the trivia. Um, in my notes, I forgot to mention there was a video game made for Sega and super NES, which I tried once, but I didn't have it in my personal collection, but it'd be fun to dig up that game. I'm like an emulator. Do you remember that game, John part two, you play as the, I don't want to give, I might ruin. Okay. Have you guys seen one or two or no, I haven't lost. I'm not going to talk about the game right now because it'll ruin the plot, a warlock too. I didn't want to get the two movies mixed up for this. So, so then there's a mini series. Now they cross a movie franchises. They have like a four issue comic book called leprechaun versus warlock. And from lumber movies, you know, where Davis leprechaun versus forelock. And uh, and now here in that case, now this is really skeevy. Some defense attorney in Canada blames the movie because his client is guilty of killing, uh, like a teenager killed another teenager or killed or killed his friend's little brother or something like that. It's a horrible crime. Don't get me wrong. It's a horrible crime. But the defense attorney blaming the movie, this, it's like when, um, kids were something happened in the nineties and they play mortal combat for something else, you know, like Beavis

Speaker 3: 25:22

And Butthead doing the firefighter

Speaker 2: 25:25

books. Um, and so that's not going to sour the movie for us. We're going to keep trucking along. Let's go to a first impressions. I'm glad I got to let trivia out. If people don't know where LA maybe they'll tune in now, but anyway, let's go. Let's jump right in. Uh, Nicki, Nicki lates first, depression's a warlock.

Speaker 3: 25:42

Um, I saw this as a kid. I really liked it. It's really dated now for me, like you said, I loved Jerry Goldsmith score and I really love Julian sands. Like that guy just steals the show in this movie. That's my first impression.

Speaker 6: 26:04

Well, Nikki. I could almost say what you just said verbatim, because I did see this as a kid. My dad rented this off the, um, I saw the second one in the theater, which we'll talk about next week. Um, but I agree like, uh, watching it this time, my first impression in years of watching it is, it's not as good as I remember.

Speaker 3: 26:25

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:28

Wow. You guys, uh, you guys are being really judgy. Uh, I want to stay in a bad way. Like this movie is alive. I don't care what either you think like, this is good. I had a lot of fun. I thought there's no way in the world. I would

Speaker 4: 26:44

Characterize it as not as good as I remember, but for me, I wasn't allowed to watch this movie when I was little. So I'm watching it for the first time. I'm getting a big kick out of it.

Speaker 6: 26:56

Like paying off like a 30 year old anticipation of like, yeah, I finally get to watch warlock.

Speaker 4: 27:01

It was, I was like, Oh, this is like a no-no thing. It actually added to it. And I got to like add on that night to check in and make sure he's not being naughty when he watches these movies. Yeah. I don't know if I should be watching this. It makes it better. It does. It's like, Oh, this is mom going to come home and catch me watching this thing. So she's not really coming home on, I'm not with mom. Okay. You were the binge Watchers crew and we'll be right back after these messages. All right.

Speaker 6: 27:40

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Speaker 4: 29:28

And now back to the show for our favorite bits. Holy, Dave, that was so exciting. I want to immediately subscribe for stars and go buy this movie loving. Yeah,

Speaker 3: 29:42

It is fun.

Speaker 2: 29:43

Oh. Okay. Yeah. As, as Adam said, we've arrived at our favorite bits, but you know what I was going to write in, you guys should tell me your favorite bits and then your binge now binge liters scale, you know, um,

Speaker 3: 29:56

At the end of the, okay. Um, my favorite bit is the tongue scene. Oh yeah. Like I just remember that that was another scene. It's so weird. I have so much memories is this movie as a kid, but I still think that scene is really great where the tongue goes in. I really love that scene. That's my favorite bit. But also John, you're talking about the warlock game. Um, it is on super in the S in Genesis. I was just looking at it right now. Actually it looks like a fun game.

Speaker 5: 30:29

I actually have a video game system. I might have to find that

Speaker 3: 30:34

Sparked my interest. I'm like, wait, there was a warlock game and it's like,

Speaker 2: 30:38

I don't endorse the movie, but you'll go look for the game. I'm actually excited. I remember, but I can't wait to play, play the game. So what's your, what's your scale bench now? Bench later bench never.

Speaker 3: 30:52

I would say, uh, I'd say binge binge will never right now.

Speaker 5: 31:01

Uh, I would say no, I would say

Speaker 3: 31:02

Binge binge later, this binge now arachnophobia with Julian sands because he's really good in that. And then binge never, I would say a warlock three from what I've heard. I haven't seen it, but I've heard

Speaker 2: 31:22

No it's garbage and he sells the warlocks.

Speaker 3: 31:28

He's the warlock. So yeah,

Speaker 2: 31:31

It was one of those straight to video. Let's just hunt for a warlock a little bit more out of the title and it's Bruce Payne and he doesn't, I don't believe he's magical. I can't handle it movie.

Speaker 3: 31:44

Yeah. I'm not going to even wash it. That's all,

Speaker 2: 31:46

It's bad. What's the habit over and over again, but it's pretty close. Okay. Dangerous Dave, your favorite bit. Let's see how dangerous you can get with your,

Speaker 3: 32:00

We got for us.

Speaker 5: 32:02

Okay. So, um, my favorite bit aside from the tongue bit is, um, I dunno when he's flying around and somebody throws the, uh, what are the weather may add him? And it just really screws up his flight. Something about that kind of made me giggle, like, uh, you know, I don't know that's that was my favorite bit.

Speaker 3: 32:19

The effects were very cheesy too. Right?

Speaker 2: 32:22

Well, I mean[inaudible] of the era. So I mean, this movie is amazing.

Speaker 3: 32:29

I'm totally hated. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2: 32:32

No, I actually, the day season finale anticipated like this, but it's just not

Speaker 4: 32:40

As good. These effects are amazing what I'm on my favorite, but now, okay. So I liked, uh, all of the different superstitious type stuff, like, like the compass and you know, the weird, like the weird rules, even the, like the shackles where the thumb and the, and the big toe had to be clamped down in order to stop him. They had all these weird, like archaic rules. It's just like a hint of like that world. And it was very good world building stuff. But my favorite thing was when he gives her the hammer and the nails, and she can hurt him by finding his footfalls and hammering the hammer into them. I loved that. I loved it so much. And then he, like, he raised his, his feet up in the air, so, or put a piece of wood on it. So that was supposed to prevent her from being able to do that to him. And then she finds out where he, uh, where his head hit, hit the sand. And then he just started to put nails in that. And then he's screaming like the nails are gone and just said, I love that. I've never, I've never seen anything like that before I thought that was really fun. So that was my, my favorite scene. There's a lot of good scenes in here and it's hard to recount every single little bit, I mean, but, uh, that is a good one.

Speaker 2: 34:06

That's good. So I will be forced to admit that the special effects are outdated, especially with the flying stuff. However, however, but a lot of the scariest stuff in this movie takes place off screen and him interacting with the boy, then melting the boy down to create the flying spell and he's drinking the boy's body fat and he's cooking the body fat on a fire. And then later on, he recharges inside the plane by sticking his hands into the loop from fat and just drizzling. It just like scoop it into his mouth is horrific. And it's one of the scariest things I think I've ever seen in a movie. The idea of like, you're the 11 year old boy, especially if you're watching this movie, when you're younger, you could be that boy interacts with, right. And then like, we need to put this into like a certain amount of perspective because, uh, if you believe in good and evil, if you're a Christian who is alive in 2021, or we're a Christian watching movies in 1989, 1990 and video is into the nineties, this movie should scare the out of you because this is about your enemy fighting, who you love. And it's all very real. So if you take, if you take it to like that level, the warlock is a scary horror movie. Right? So

Speaker 4: 35:27

Kid absolutely like even that part, that part of where he's like, Oh, uh, which is just like right on broomsticks. Right. He laughs at that idea.

Speaker 2: 35:39

Yeah. Like he, then he says like, I'm not that kind of which, and then you go, Oh, he's going to kill the kid. Here we go. This is horrible. I throw that all in. I just throw that all in. Right. I just, it all into like defend the movie. But my favorite bit is actually the sequence where, um, I think you call them superstitions, but it's my sequence where the old hex and crafter they're in the Mennonite community or whatever. Like the old dad is like, Oh, the bread won't rise. The cream is sour. The horses sweating. Like he's like, we're in trouble now. Yeah. The family is trying to protect themselves against, against the, which is like my favorite part of the movie. Um, so that's what it is like

Speaker 4: 36:21

Neat and establishing those rules and having them come back and be of relevance later is that was so much fun because that kind of Lord doesn't really make it into a lot of movies. They, you don't even need to know any lore about anything. The movie shows you everything and it shows you a whole bunch of it and they just sneak it all in. It's So much fun. The great props that compass was made. So cool. How they had to Mount it in the car later. And you know, they, they're not, they're not like throwing the camera right on it showing you do all that. That's just, you already know what it is. It's I don't know. Even the acting, I mean, I was immersed. I'm not going to lie. This was a fun movie. I'm to

Speaker 3: 37:07

High point of this movie is actually the acting like the two leads are like really great British actors. I mean, Richard Grant was nominated for an Academy award a few years ago. So

Speaker 2: 37:15

If it hadn't been them, it wouldn't have worked.

Speaker 4: 37:17

Oh, for sure. Yeah. Richard Grant is really selling this movie, man. This kind of reminds me of Michael Keaton a little bit like in the eyes. Yeah. Hairline. I could see that he looks like a, like a British beetle juice.

Speaker 2: 37:39

We can have a beetle juice. If we're talking about a wild man wild card, can't predict this is slowly becoming everybody's favorite segment. This is what should I watch? It's a dangerous game. Played by these devious individuals on this podcast. You never know if they're going to give you a point or cut your throat. Hey, Nick, what should I watch?

Speaker 3: 38:00

All right, guys, I just watched this week a great series. It's it's 1985. It's a documentary about, about a killer. Who's going in our houses that night and killing. And this guy is a true story about a guy who killed 30 people in LA. And it's about the detectives who are out to get this guy into this fascinating. It's a four-part series. It's on Netflix. And the editing is amazing. The reenactments are incredible. I highly recommend it. It's called the night stalker.

Speaker 2: 38:33

Wow. That's an interesting choice.

Speaker 4: 38:36

Especially considering we just talked about the warlock and he killed he's, uh, he kills children in the movie. Docker, apparently think of the children as well. And also he's a Satanist. Right? And he wanted to be like the embodiment of evil walking around on two legs.

Speaker 5: 38:50

Dude, this guy was insane. Yeah. In the editing on this, I'm telling you, Oh my gosh, I, the music

Speaker 4: 38:57

And you don't have the music. Did you watch it, Dave?

Speaker 5: 39:00

Yeah. See, I don't know if I, how do I give you a point? Cause I've already said,

Speaker 4: 39:06

Dave, you're also talking to thinking about the audience perspective too. Like you have to give them a point. How do you not give them a point?

Speaker 5: 39:13

I'd say the audience needs to watch it. It is actually just like a Michael Mann directed movie. It really does. I've never seen a documentary.

Speaker 4: 39:21

Like you've got to think of it. You gotta like purge your mind. Like, so he told us about it. We hadn't seen it yet. Would you then go and see it? That's how you decide it has to be like a judge. That's that recuses themselves because they're related to who's on trial. The game one of us has to sit out and just judge the others. I think so. Yeah. Well we stopped playing the button. I think. Well, I think over time, I know we have to pick, you have to pick something that you, you think that they might not have seen. And actually, you know, it's gotta be a lot easier than this. So we can't be that judgmental. And we can't be that ruthless with the point, even though you just watched it and you know that, Hey, I'm giving him a point. I just thought it was rude that Dave wouldn't give him a point. And I think that gives yourself Dave, uh, you know, I dunno

Speaker 5: 40:24

The point after the fact. Cause I realized like, well,

Speaker 4: 40:27

Yeah, you got two points. Okay. We have different scorecards on my scorecard, Nick. Like, uh, you have one point because I'll, I would watch it based on what you said, but I don't think your points count. And they're giving you three. I'm giving you one. I'm just, I was just keeping, we only have one point he used to give. I don't even know. I know, but I'm just saying on my scorecard, Dave gets one on your scorecard. You're giving them all three. I'm knocking them in three points. I just want a fair scorecard. According to my rule of three points, I got three points. No I know, but on my scorecard you got one. Hey Dave, what did you watch?

Speaker 5: 41:06

Um, all right. So I already figured I'm going to lose this week. So I'm just going to say the best thing I've seen this week besides psychographic

Speaker 4: 41:14

Don't act like that. Don't come in.

Speaker 5: 41:20

[inaudible]

Speaker 4: 41:21

So it's a little

Speaker 5: 41:22

Movie called warlock three. The end of engine innocence. No, not really. I did watch that, but no, that is not what I'm suggesting.

Speaker 4: 41:32

No. Um, I've dipped my toes into something I've been meaning to for a long time. So I finally broke down and watch Buster Keaton movies this week. Never watched Charlie Chaplin, never watched Buster Keaton. The general I'm telling you guys, this is like the best movie I've seen in a long time. Like you could see modern action movies taken from this movie. I see speed in this. I see mad max fury road. You call me crazy, but it's true. Like this is kind of the birth of action movies and it's a comedy it's fricking hilarious. Which Buster Keaton did you watch? I watched a few, but the one I'm suggesting as the general, that's the one where

Speaker 5: 42:08

The train train.

Speaker 4: 42:10

Yeah. So he has to go get his train from, well, that's a funny, we won't get into politics, but he's for the South and he's has to go get it back from the North in civil war times. But um, yeah dude, I mean, it is just like for, uh, for nearly a hundred year old movie, it still moves along. It's quick. It moves. It's hilarious. I man, like take a chance on a 95 year old movie, it's really

Speaker 5: 42:32

Good. It's too mainstream for my blood

Speaker 4: 42:34

Amount, uh, mainstream what

Speaker 3: 42:39

Mainstream I'm sold because you know what I could hear in Dave's voice, his passion. And I, and I do know like by, based on what he's talking about, I've I, if you know what, you know, you sold me on Dave speed and mad max fury road took ideas from this. I'm like, okay, I'm in. So yeah, you got to

Speaker 5: 42:58

Point pretty creative that he actually mentioned

Speaker 4: 43:01

Moderate. Yeah. It was

Speaker 3: 43:02

Just like these movies stoled from, from this movie, the general. So you got my point to you have one minute.

Speaker 4: 43:09

Okay. Uh, John, are you down my throat in film school? So I just am tired of it.

Speaker 5: 43:15

I didn't get, I got charged

Speaker 4: 43:17

At me. You can't judge it based on that, John. Yeah,

Speaker 5: 43:21

I'm doing my argument. I made it for her based on what Dave said.

Speaker 4: 43:28

Oh wow. Okay. So check it out. I'm going to give Dave three quarters of a 0.3. Last week.

Speaker 5: 43:39

Three quarters is too hard to tabulate. You do like half for one.

Speaker 4: 43:46

Okay, look. Okay. I'll give you half a point from the time of previous game that I didn't give you a full point on. And I'm going to give you my full point on this.

Speaker 5: 43:55

Now bring points in from other rounds it out there. You can say no to that.

Speaker 4: 44:01

I just want to give them more than one. Cause I w I wanted to watch this a long time ago, but you know, I never made the effort and it was in the Buster Keaton documentary that I watched to somewhere in Hollywood. And uh, so this is, uh, his pitch was like, wow. Yeah, I would have watched it. Even if this is the only thing I heard, I thought he did a great job. It's it sounds juicy. I really want to watch it. Absolutely. One point plus whatever dude, like

Speaker 5: 44:32

We've only done two people and Dave and I are both tied with three.

Speaker 4: 44:38

I have a protocol for tie-breaking. We're going to invent it here.

Speaker 2: 44:43

I'll have to give us another watch. That's you

Speaker 5: 44:46

Guys got to up the game now? I don't, man. Let's see

Speaker 2: 44:48

If we can, uh, go ahead, Adam. What'd you watch.

Speaker 4: 44:51

Okay. I watched a film about a demented young man who, who, uh, listens to his Teddy bear. Uh, tell him to do things. Uh, and basically he's got a lot of enemies. He's an introvert. And he starts bringing random people that he, he doesn't like to a pit. He found, he found in the woods and he ends up pushing all these people into this pit. And uh, one by one, he's picking them off. And this is there's Gore. There's fun. It's strange. Uh, it's unpredictable. It's a fun horror movie. It's called the pit.

Speaker 5: 45:35

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 45:37

And psychotic Teddy bear telling you what to do. I mean,

Speaker 5: 45:42

On the Teddy bear telling somebody what to do like that, that right there is enough for me. And you sold me on like, he, that he takes people to some pits pit and throws them in and I'm intrigued by whatever the pit the pit is. So I'll give you,

Speaker 4: 45:55

Yeah. There's more to the pit. I'm just, I'm not

Speaker 5: 45:59

The tree by what you said, you gave me a, you, you just like touch my nipple a little, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Oh yeah. Well,

Speaker 4: 46:06

There is some nipple touching in the movies. You're going to be further rewarded my friend.

Speaker 2: 46:15

Wow. Adam, you got three points.

Speaker 5: 46:19

Oh my God. Is this going to be like an all like three-star movie? me over right now, John zero. How so would that be

Speaker 4: 46:32

Start off by saying my movies, the best movie this week?

Speaker 2: 46:38

Well, so I watched a, what we call black seat. Would you law and Ben Mendelsohn. It's a submarine movie. It's an underwater thriller. Um, what, what's it called? We gonna have in here, the black sea, like the black sea where it takes place. So these out of work sailors from both the Scottish Navy and the former Soviet Navy, um, they're out of work. And then they hear about this Russian. No, they hear about a Nazi gold buried in the bottom of the black sea. And they, they go to retrieve it. And it's kind of like, as soon as the movie starts, you know, things are gonna go wrong. And then it just kind of ratchets up the tension and you're kind of watching like, uh, what would be like a car accident in slow motion, because you just know it's gonna get worse and worse and worse. And there's the bottom of the ocean in a really crappy summary. And you know, it gets greedy. It's a thriller and it's claustrophobic.

Speaker 3: 47:32

So plexi I'm sold. I'm a big submarine guy. So that's all you had to say for me. I, you gotta point it as soon as you said submarine, it became like a hundred percent more interesting. Yeah. And then you're describing, you're a train wreck and you're like, Oh. They're underwater. Yeah. You got me. I got one on you. Yeah. I'll give you

Speaker 2: 47:58

Point. This is one I had heard about a while ago and I forgot. And John bringing it up and talking about it with enthusiasm. Like, eh, I need to check that out. So yeah.

Speaker 3: 48:05

I've actually never heard of this movie. This is fascinating. I love,

Speaker 2: 48:09

Oh, that's you mentioned they just dropped it on Netflix too. So it's actually,

Speaker 3: 48:14

Well, there you go. Like if, if the movie had picked was, was called red sea, I'd be like, nah, but since it was black sea, you get a point. Uh, gentlemen, uh, we all have three, so it's,

Speaker 2: 48:29

That's a perfect game. Wow. That

Speaker 3: 48:31

Was a perfect game. I don't even know what to do. We can't find each other now. What are we supposed to do?

Speaker 2: 48:41

Yeah, we have to go to like a lightning round. Oh God.

Speaker 3: 48:46

All right. Uncle

Speaker 2: 48:47

Pecker, head, amazon.com tie breaker. This is how well can we keep you happy and say, it's the season finale and just leave it alone. We all have the maximum number of points and we share. Or if we go to a tiebreaker lightning around, if what are you going to watch next? And whoever has the most exciting what's on their playlist, then when's the round

Speaker 3: 49:09

Shoot. I wasn't ready for that. I don't even know that idea. It's the same idea you just said, but it's out of the movies that we all toady told each other. Which one are we going to watch first? Oh, that could work. Yeah. Oh, wow. That actually works good. Okay. Oh, I'm down for that. Okay. And I already know which one I'd want to watch. So I already,

Speaker 2: 49:35

He's a dangerous chess player. Cause I think he knows

Speaker 3: 49:39

Really a good, that was really good. That was really good. Adam, actually, I think we're going to be able to really hone that down. All right. He does have to repeat the titles. Uh, John was black C yeah. Mine was the pit. Uh, mine was night stalker documentary. Okay. And Dave was a, what was it? The general. The general Buster Keaton. Alright. Who goes first? John?

Speaker 2: 50:11

Well, I've already seen the night stalker and I'm tired of the general. So like I'm going to go watch the pit.

Speaker 3: 50:16

Yay.

Speaker 2: 50:22

Um, I I've already seen the night stalker. Um, I might Lexi

Speaker 4: 50:29

Whoop.

Speaker 2: 50:31

We're still tied.

Speaker 4: 50:36

Okay. Um, the night soccer sounded interesting. Um, and the general has been on my, uh, you know, I really love Dave's pitch on it, but I think I would probably watch black sea. Whew,

Speaker 3: 50:58

Uh, son of a. John, you won this game. I was going to say the same thing.

Speaker 2: 51:02

Oh, Dan, I would love to hear your guys's mini review. If you guys have a chance to watch it this week, I'd love to come back next week and see like what you guys thought of this movie

Speaker 3: 51:12

Submarine movies. And I'm like son of a gun. I, I watched, I watched documentaries on submarines. Like I'm fascinated by submarines. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 51:25

Who else? Reads books about submarines.

Speaker 4: 51:29

That's me. I'm a bad man. Have you seen underwater Dave? Me? Yeah. I saw that earlier last year. Okay. Not bad. I liked it. What about Nick? Have you seen underwater? What's underwater? No.

Speaker 2: 51:45

We'll talk about that. When you bring that up on a past episode, what's it about again? We compared it to some other movie. I think underwater is like a thriller where the wake something up. It's a little bit like that deep rising movie from Sean Cunningham. Like[inaudible] and it comes after them, but it's water. It's more based on like HP Lovecraft

Speaker 4: 52:07

O kay. Oh, snap. I'm g oing t o watch it from black s ea. O h,

Speaker 2: 52:15

You can't do that.[inaudible]

Speaker 4: 52:23

He's just going to watch a different submarine movie despite you like change my boat to the general. Oh, that's boom. That's a good movie. It's crazy. Huh?

Speaker 2: 52:38

Based on like a real life tragic event, I think is most of them are movies are made up. If I think about the ones that are,

Speaker 4: 52:46

Um, hunt for red October. Yeah. Made up Crimson tide made up, I think. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 52:52

I think that's totally based on a real, real thing. From

Speaker 4: 52:54

What I remember, Thrones made up

Speaker 2: 53:00

Submarine, episode of game of Thrones

Speaker 4: 53:05

Pushed into the submarine. What was that? Dave? I said, Oh, the submarine ride at Disneyland. Totally fake. I know. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 53:15

You know what? I love that ride though, man. It was good going into the lagoon and then, and then having seen all the jobs, movies I'm like, where are you bud? You ready? Ready?

Speaker 4: 53:26

I love the big whale monster, bro. He's just poking out and I'll happy.

Speaker 2: 53:31

Oh, I forgot about that from a Pinocchio.

Speaker 4: 53:34

Yeah. They have a giant monster out there near the entrance to the ride. I believe. Yeah. I miss that place too bad. They're closing it down. Huh? Disney.

Speaker 3: 53:48

Dizzy.

Speaker 4: 53:50

Yeah. Whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 53:56

It feels like it's winding down. Nick. You want to

Speaker 3: 53:59

Sounds good. Well guys, don't uh, don't forget to visit us on social. Drop us an email or reach out with a movie request or review, but tune in next week. Cause we're going to talk about bad romances in warlock too. We're switching gears and go into a month filled with bad romances, bromances and bad friendships. This is Nikki T sane.

Speaker 4: 54:28

All right, let's do it, baby.

Speaker 2: 54:31

I almost wanted to laugh not to be a Dick. I'm like, Whoa, really? Switching gears and going from

Speaker 3: 54:36

One, read my line. I'm like put up. We're like too, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 2: 54:45

We do the official ending. They still want to talk. I mean you notice that. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 54:50

Well I want to talk. I wanted to make a lady dog joke, but

Speaker 3: 54:56

Even later than now, later than late. So that was good stuff guys.

Speaker 2: 55:02

We are switching gears, David, the theme of war two has nothing to do with the theme of warlock. One I'll find out

Speaker 4: 55:12

Forever caught in a bad road, man. Caught in a bad romance. We're luck too. And then the subtitle

Speaker 3: 55:20

Maybe. Yeah. We're like to the Armageddon slash bathroom.

Speaker 4: 55:27

That's a way that is what a romance romances. So personal Armageddon,

Speaker 2: 55:34

I'm having so many thoughts that I can't share all spoil the plot of warlock too. I mean, I actually saw this in the theater with my dad. My dad never took us to kids' movies. He's like, I want to see this you're coming with us. All right,

Speaker 4: 55:48

Nikki, late, late, late. I heard it. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 55:57

You didn't say it. Yeah. So this is all just extra.

Speaker 3: 56:01

I thought we were done. I didn't know. I guess I've never done loop

Speaker 2: 56:09

57. I want to break an even hour. We're going to do it, you know?

Speaker 4: 56:13

Oh. Minutes of banter. Now

Speaker 3: 56:17

We had like a timer. Maybe I'll be like

Speaker 2: 56:20

The only one that can see the clock. I guess I can see the lifetimer but if you say

Speaker 4: 56:26

I can like set a watch or something, you know, Hey look, me and Nick were texting each other to make sure John one favor, like what should I watch game? We were feeling bad for your time. Yeah. Yeah. We're actually both going to see the general

Speaker 2: 56:40

He's ruined the whole last half hour. You're totally bullshitting or you're gonna

Speaker 4: 56:49

So the general and then we're going to watch Hobbit,

Speaker 2: 56:52

Adam. You were really confused me at first. I'm like, whatever you want, nobody wants any of those movies. Just go watch underwater and then watch war like two and come back next week. We're only going to watch Hoben up until.