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Back In The Day: Alien Nation

January 11, 2021 Johnny Spoiler and The Binge-Watchers Season 25 Episode 2
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LAST TIME ON BINGE-WATCHERS PODCAST

WE TOOK A TRIP Back in the Day to discover a hidden gem among Burt Reynolds movies called Hooper, which is about stuntmen, and our round of what should I watch was extremely brutal but entertaining, so if you get a chance... listen our great episode that opened 2021 called Back In The Day: Hooper.

TONIGHT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT…

Back in the day, 1988, they released a movie called Alien Nation which was a sci fi buddy cop movie that touched on dealing with racism and police brutality in America.  It partners a veteran homicide detective (James Caan) with the first newcomer alien detective (Mandy Patinkin) on the force to solve the murder of the human’s previous partner and a sudden series of newcomer killings a few years after aliens crash landed in Los Angeles.  And Terence Stamp plays the alien villain.

The movie did well for its time.  Mandy said he based his character on George Jetson and they were supposed to mention it in the movie too; Caan made jokes on set to keep things light but later got angry when a fan asked him about the movie.

The movie spawned a very short-lived but critically acclaimed series, and 5 made for tv movie sequels to the series.  These sequels went deep into newcomer myths.

HOME VIDEO HEADLINES 

Idras Elba is in a movie coming soon called Concrete Cowboy based on both the real-life horseman of Pennsylvania and G. Neri's novel, Ghetto Cowboy not to be confused with Concrete Cowboy 1979 or The Cowboy Way.  The co-writer of one of my favorite country songs of all time, “Mammas, Don’t Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys," Ed Bruce has died, and also Tanya Roberts died, she was Sheena, in Beastmaster, Midge in That 70s Show, and a Charlie’s Angel replacement in season 5 … 

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FIRST IMPRESSIONS

NICK “had the buddy cop thing down. Spoiled milk gags.”

DAVE “I really liked this movie.”

ATOM “Really enjoyed. Surprised me.”

JOHN  “Discovered the original movie after loving the show, so was happy for more Alien Nation to consume.”

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FAVORITE BITS

This movie is like breaking bad with aliens, loved the spoiled milk character scenes, and the opening sequence is so well done we can see why movies that come later steal its style.

WHAT SHOULD I WATCH? 

A killer tiger movie, Fire in the Sky will scare you, Turkey Shoot is not about shooting turkeys, and how about a movie with a tank called Fury?

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Speaker 1:

Correct open a cold box of wine or pour something cold on ice because it's the binge watches[inaudible]

Speaker 2:

Oh, Adam's tired of Rudy. Let's make fun of them, right? From the beginning. I want the audience, that's all, um, Papa red bull and let's get going binge Watchers out there. We know you're up late. Cause you gotta, you know, you got to watch the next season of Picard or catch up on season three of American gods over there on stars with Peter stormier playing one of the Nordic gods. There's a bunch of people on that show, but whatever. Anyway, last time on binge Watchers, we took a trip back in the day to discover a hidden gem among burn rentals movies called Hooper. And then we played this ridiculous round of, uh, what should I watch? And it got pretty brutal, but I feel like it was entertaining. Um, so if you get a chance to go back and listen to that pretty good episode, that's how we started the year out for this 2021. It's called back in the day. Hooper. Uh, it's on the website. We'll put a link in here pro. Yeah, we'll do, we'll just do it last time. Link will we'll pop a link in the no sharpness on tonight's episode, they can easily like, you know, play that one next after they listened to this. Um, what tonight we're taking another trip back in the day, but tonight's movie came out in 88. What is it like 30 years ago or so, or whatever. They released a movie called alien nation, which is a scifi buddy cop movie that touched on dealing with racism and police brutality in America. At the time kindly message. We're not going to go into the background of the red tape of the current situation that we're all living in two subjects. And, uh, it partners a veteran homicide detective played by James Khan with the first new calmer alien detective on the forest play by Manny tanking. And they're trying to solve the murder of the human's previous partner who gets killed at the beginning of the film and then a certain series of newcomer killings. And this is like a few years after the antigen crash landed in the Los Angeles basin area. And Karen stamp plays the primary suspect. He's also a newcomer and in the movie now for the time though, we did pretty well. Um, Mandy said he based his character on Jetson and supposedly in the script, that was the fake name given to his alien. Cause everybody that comes in like Ellis Island, they're given all these names, like when people immigrated from Europe and they got all these Americanized names, like in this movie, they gave all the aliens like named after like cities or whatever. But, um, yeah, like Roger Kipling. Yeah, exactly. Richard Kipling or whatever for another guy. But like halfway through the movie, they stopped calling him George Jetson and call them San Francisco. So they had to dub the lines out because they were saying George Jetson through like the whole movie, um, kind of funny. But then, uh, James con supposedly had a pretty good attitude. I heard the feedback again and hopefully it's not disrupting anybody at home who's listening, but, um, James Caan was making jokes on the set to keep things light, but then later got angry. Like when a fan asked him at like a convention or some interview, like years later about his experience on this movie.

Speaker 3:

Um, so don't ask James Khan about alienation dream

Speaker 2:

Friendly type of actor. Like he doesn't like,

Speaker 3:

He never looked that way though. I mean, you can kind of tell. Right. But, uh, um, yeah,

Speaker 2:

I dunno. I don't want to, I don't want to like email the conversation too much to talk about James con attitude. Cause like he, if you watch the documentary about elf, he also had a bad attitude on that, but when it's like, dude, come on, like you're making all these classic films,

Speaker 3:

What's wrong with you, man. You know, he want everyone to think that he was Jimmy the dream.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God. Yeah. That he had a good attitude, right? Like that was the public relations campaign that he was on at the time. Um, but getting back to, uh, alienation, the movie did spawn a short-lived, but it was, but it was a really good show. They had a series, a, you know, like, um, alienation. Um, it was like an episodic dramatic, like police serial. Um, it was a little bit like, um,

Speaker 3:

It was pretty good. I started watching it this week after watching this it's actually a really good, he's really good at it. It's on YouTube. If you type in alienation, it's actually, they have a lot of the episodes. The first thing that comes up

Speaker 2:

There's one season. So there's only like 22, but they're all the plots are pretty good. And then like after that, they made five, a made for TV movie sequels and the movies go, the SQL's on for made for TV, whatever those movie, the week things they used to make when, when broadcast was competing with like early cable, right. Um, they made these five made for TV movies and they go really deep into like the alien newcomer mythology. So if you're like, if you're digging the movie and you want to go deeper, you got to get into watching the show and then watching those, those, you know, five made for TV movies that came out. Um, I saw the show first before I ever saw the movie. I didn't even actually know the movie existed until like, wow. I feel like our first year in college, I think, I didn't know. I watched the series over and over and over watch the TV movies, like really thought it was really a cool idea. Then found out the TV show was based on a movie. Right. And I was like, what? And then I expected to see like the, the TV actors and then of course not right because the movie had different actors. Right. A-listers at the time

Speaker 3:

They had the guy with the mullet on the TV show. Yeah. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

We're gonna, we're gonna dive into this movie. We gave you a little bit of this alienation history and uh, and what came after it, but we're going to zip over to a segment called home video headlines. And we're going to find out what's going on in the world of TV and movies. I mean, I, I said I didn't have much in my notes, but I guess I kind of do. I mean, I got a few things here I want to, I want to, I want to talk about, and let people know about, um, Idris Elba has a movie coming out called concrete cowboy, which is based on the real life, uh, horseman from Philadelphia that had like a Southwest Philadelphia riding club. They're like, they're like basically urban Cowboys. Like literally they, they ride horses around the city. And so this movie is coming out based on a story that takes place in that kind of a environment. And then supposedly some of the stories taken from this, uh, writers' novel called ghetto cowboy. Um, what's really funny is the movie is called concrete cowboy, but it's not a remake. So of concrete cowboy, which came out in 79 with Tom Selleck. So like, wouldn't want to confuse the titles. It's the

Speaker 4:

Same title. That's hilarious. I mean, if you look

Speaker 2:

At the plot of the 79 one, check us out, it's literally sounds like the cowboy way because the plot of a cowboy from 1979 is, um, you know, Tom Selleck and his buddy have to go into Nashville to look for his, the buddy's missing sister. And I'm like, Whoa, dude, that deceptively sounds a lot like the cowboy, but, but then as it turns out, obviously concrete cowboy, 79 comes out way before cowboy way cars have a way it comes out with what do you hell is saying, keep the stuff I'm like in nineties or something,

Speaker 4:

It was like 95 or nine. The story of that

Speaker 2:

Is their branch Han's daughter disappears in the city and they got to go to the city to look for her. And I'm like, wow, dude, the story of the original concrete cowboy and the cowboy way are just too similar, you know, like one of those classic Hollywood stories of people stealing from each other, you know what I mean? Like, so I'm definitely like, Oh yeah. So somebody watched most of wash the Tom Selleck movie and was like, Oh, we can make a movie.

Speaker 3:

Hmm. I think we've given[inaudible] in. We all made a separate, they'd all be different. I think we've given way more

Speaker 2:

Discussion about the cowboy way in concrete

Speaker 3:

Cowboy than probably anybody ever said. Um,

Speaker 2:

And to keep it country the co-writer one of my favorite country songs of all time mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Cowboys. Like it's sung by Willie Nelson, but co-writer ed, Bruce. Uh, he died unfortunately, but it's a great Spotify playlist or Apple, Amazon music, whatever you got going on your posts, all that these days. And take a look at that. Um, Tanya Roberts apparently did really die. Like they misreported that she died, but apparently she really had an infection and died. Now

Speaker 4:

I heard about that. Oh God, that sound painful.

Speaker 3:

I want to say how she does the same way they reported. They just reported it too early. Oh no. But it was like an infection.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that, that whole thing was like a big cluster misinformation and people reporting stuff too early and like, wow, I got bad. Like we found out she died twice this week. Like that's kinda

Speaker 3:

Kinda messed up,

Speaker 5:

Although Quinn's not, not in honor of her, but I happen to have watch the Beastmaster today. So coincidentally, I guess I did kind of honor. Oh, there you go. Yeah. So, you know, rip, can we lose John? Do I was just going to ask, did we lose John now? We did just lose you.

Speaker 3:

Yes we did. All right. So I'm going to take over where are we on the notes? I'll move it here. Actually. I don't know if he's recording still. So I'll just keep going for, uh, that's kind of where I am too. Did you guys hear that? Uh, I hope John don't get mad at me. I'm just going to do this for, you know, so you don't have to edit. Um, he's there he's there.

Speaker 2:

She's upstairs watching fresh off the boat, you know, Trying to drop, uh, Tanya Roberts extra credits because she's also a Beastmaster show. I don't know what you guys heard. So then also she was a season five replacement on the original Charlie's angels show. I don't know where we're at. I don't know what the last thing you guys heard from me was

Speaker 5:

You got cut off. And I, I mentioned I watched Beastmaster today. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Honoring Sandra rubbers. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't even show even my avatar now. Yeah. I'm going to have to take over my entire internet. And in the middle of the night, when we do the show, it was like the second time they were, what were they watching last night? We were watching something else.

Speaker 3:

I can just do it on low bandwidth.

Speaker 5:

Uh, let's see, where are we?

Speaker 2:

Oh, Dave had a good update actually that I wanted him to share that he told me and like, it really surprised me, but I thought it was such a good idea.

Speaker 5:

Uh, so yeah. Um, so Quimbee is no more except Roku came in and bought all their content. So if you got addicted to a quippy show, um, like I watched half of the season, they dropped of Reno nine 11. I'll get to watch the second half whenever they drop it. Um, so, you know, if you have a Roku, uh, in the future, you'll be able to watch all this quippy shows that we'll be watching the first place. So it'll be on the Roku channel. Yeah. That's my understanding.

Speaker 3:

And they sometimes have some good stuff on there. Actually. It's not bad.

Speaker 5:

They, I mean, they had a few, like I watched the Reno nine 11, I watched, um, uh, you know, there was a show in there that was a horror show from Sam Raimi that I didn't, I watched maybe an episode or two. It wasn't a whole lot that grabbed me.

Speaker 2:

One was the deal maker. Right. That's the new season of Reno, nine 11 and vertical television is all right. If you're just watching like a YouTube video or like a Facebook update. But if you're watching a show,

Speaker 3:

That's kind of not

Speaker 2:

On one in the vertical. And you're like, Oh, well actually

Speaker 5:

They did both actually Reno nine 11. They were kind of brilliant in that they would have not all the time, but they'd have certain sequences where you could watch it, um, landscape style or normal. But if you wanted to see like body cam footage of them running while they were chasing down somebody, you could flip it up and it'd be their body cam footage. So like they cut a utilized it really interestingly. Oh that's but I don't know if that, I don't know if that's going to translate to the TV up.

Speaker 3:

I want to say to that you needed to do that.

Speaker 5:

Like, but I don't know how many shows would like utilize that technology where like, if you flipped it one way, you'd see something different than if you had a landscape.

Speaker 3:

Did it say blinking logos? Like[inaudible] to show you how to change the orientation? Yeah. I can't remember.

Speaker 5:

They indicated, but they, they had some way of like, indicating if you flip it this way or that way, you'll see something different,

Speaker 2:

Hard to say. I can't remember. That's how that's how beloved this app was. People really remember how it works.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. Seven, eight bucks a month to watch something on your phone and not on your TV. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Now, can you do other stuff on your phone while you're doing it? It's like, it's fascinating that we're more fascinated about it. Buy it now than when it actually existed.

Speaker 2:

It's funny too. Cause other streamers have this multi-platform strategy to back up the streaming numbers. Right? Like they like, like releasing like, um, the new star Trek show, whatever discovery was released in Netflix, you know, in Britain and other countries like immediately and then like slowly released on regular CBS. You know what I mean? So it's like, they didn't just bank on. You're going to watch it on your phone and that's the only way we're going to get your money because,

Speaker 3:

So why don't you just get a VPN and just go to Europe and then you're free, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I guess so. But I, I just mean for like quippy, they shouldn't have just thought like phones only, you know, maybe, you know, or like a hooked it with the other streamers who knows. But the whole idea of like Roku getting all their content

Speaker 3:

Pretty wild.

Speaker 2:

It's not just wild. It makes me think like, are they about to like drop their own original content? Like maybe they'll see how well the library does. And then are they going to start making their own stuff? Which would be really cool. I mean, they get like, are they up to 55 million subscribers now or something ridiculous? Like they were at one point had like 32 million. But I think,

Speaker 3:

Do you mean by subscribers? Like you have a device?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Like you're watching apps on Roku.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I have four of them in my house, so yeah. Every everything I have is connected to whether it's the box or through the TV itself. Yeah. Cause they're like only$25. It's like for the little HD one. It's it's perfect.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So does anybody else have any more updates or do we want to jump right into first impressions of alienation?

Speaker 3:

Uh, the only thing I was about to say was I saw an article. I don't know if you guys knew this, that, um, of like, you know how HBO had game of Thrones. I heard they lost half their listeners. When the show went off the air. Do you guys hear that?

Speaker 2:

You mean viewers? Listeners? I mean, we've got podcasts on the brain. That's[inaudible]

Speaker 3:

Listeners. Sorry. Somebody clarified that because my brain, I want to keep you guys in suspense. Yeah. You guys didn't listen. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Wait, do you actually paid some money to have those after-show things produced? Like after the McDonald's documentary? Like after the show, you know how the mom really infiltrated the McDonald's, uh, you know, um, um, monopoly scandal or whatever it was. Yeah. I don't know about that. Okay. But they're going to drop another game of Thrones. Nick. They're doing like fire and blood or something. They're doing like 200 years of cool. Yeah. Pretty cool. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And when I bring this guy, when I bring this new, you guys, I never actually watched game of Thrones. So just, I just thought it was, you were just listening. I was just listening to the video

Speaker 2:

[inaudible]

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Nick gave up on HBO after true blood.

Speaker 3:

I did. I didn't watch that game of Thrones.

Speaker 2:

It was an audio book. All right. We've got to get to the name. We've got to get to the main feature here. This looks like more meandering. So first impressions of mainland nations. We'll start with you, Nick.

Speaker 3:

I, I loved it. I saw it when I was a kid and I loved it. I loved the cop drama between, you know, it's like the buddy cop thing going on and I love that aliens could get drunk off expired. That was really funny. I was like, Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. And I was wondering, did the price of milk go up because so many aliens were buying inspired milk. I, that was, I wanted to know if that happened. You know, I really did enjoy this movie. I, I always have liked it.

Speaker 2:

Little kids probably tried to explore spoiled Nick for the first time I did the first time I watched the new challenge, right?

Speaker 3:

Oh my gosh. It would have been amazing. No challenge. Oh God. Thank God. The internet didn't exist then. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh man. I know Dave you're so gullible. You would have done the spoiled milk challenge. Has your tongue of your taste buds since you've done the tide pod challenge.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, man, man,

Speaker 2:

I'm just ribbon R I B E I N G

Speaker 3:

In this movie. He's there, there wasn't right.

Speaker 2:

Gave your first depression. Okay.

Speaker 5:

Um, I kind of went in with no expectations. I really like this movie. I like this movie a lot. Um, it's kind of, it, it made something new out of a, kind of a tired genre by that point. I mean, we'd already seen a million buddy cop movies lethal weapon, 48 hours. And those are all good movies, but uh, I don't know, this brought something new to it. Um, and now this movie has been copied, so

Speaker 3:

I liked the dynamic. We almost did a double

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Too much episode. It would have been too long would have taken like two hours to go over it. Like, you know, they took it fantasy style instead of scifi style, but basic same thing. Like instead of Al aliens, they had, it works, you know, so, yeah.

Speaker 5:

But, but I like the chemistry between the two. Like I like, you know, it's the story itself is nothing new, but like just the chemistry and the concept of the world they built was enough to make it worthwhile and different.

Speaker 2:

Nice. What about you, Adam? What's your first impression of alienation?

Speaker 3:

Well, I really liked the fresh Prince and uh, I think, I thought he did a good job here. That was good, actually wrong movie this week. I remember watching the TV show, uh, because they made such a big deal about it. And uh, like John went a long time before I realized, Hey, wait, that was based on a movie. So it's kind of video it kind of like in the heat of the night, like I didn't realize that that multi-season show was like originally started off by a movie. So what I really enjoyed, it was good. James Caan, Jimmy the dreams,

Speaker 5:

See this close the gap for me. You guys have all seen the TV show. And I remember always seeing the commercials for the show, like during the Simpsons or married with children and I never watched it. So this was like my first, first real exposure to alienation.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you're right. It was like 1990 or 91 when the show came out. So that was married with children and Simpsons were like foxes big things. For sure.

Speaker 2:

So, um, I mean, I kind of mentioned it already. Like it was a discovery for me. Wow. There's an alien alienation movie. I haven't seen, I was really excited to watch it. I was disappointed that they had somebody else playing, um, the George character cause Eric Pierpont, I think his name of the actor and I was just spoiled watching him on the show. He's so good at that part. Right. He's a classically-trained actor and he was an Eagle Montoya and princess bride, one of my favorite characters of all time, but I don't think he did such a good job as George, you know, in the movie. You know what I mean? So, um, little, little let down by that, but again, a good discovery. Cause I was consuming alienation stuff at the time I was happy. There was another movie. Um, all right. Back up for a brief message from one of our affiliates, want to let you know that is stars worth subscribing to absolutely. They're a premium movie channel that includes access to hit movies as well as to original programming. Original programming is probably the biggest reason to subscribe to stars, but there are also loads of movies that make it worth subscribing to, um, we said at the end of the episode, American gods just lost their launch their third season and has some classic stars hits and series like smarter kiss, black sails as force evil, dead magic city and the white queen as well as delivering comedy classics this month, like planes, trains, and automobiles. There's also a deep catalog of golden HTV hits such as the Jeffersons Magnum PI different strokes in the 18 for professional moving TV fans like us. It's a no brainer to have stars in one of our streamer apps. Um, however, you can answer the question for yourself cause we can hook you up with a seven day free trial cram in as many laughs and do a week of binge-watching. As long as you go ahead and clear, your state home schedule just was the link or a website for details. It's a paid link because the truth is we are supported by sponsors as well as affiliate links to keep the podcast rolling and the pay for some podcast related bills. That's the dirty bloody truth behind everything. Um, moving on to some more positive things and also get stars for free and watch planes, trains and automobiles. Why not? I actually liked magic city

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As well. Her that was very

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Speaker 3:

Here we go. Ask vs. Evil. Dead is pretty awesome. If anybody has our boys, I've always wondered why. Yeah, no, I haven't had time. I know I've been doing so many things so good, but it's disappointing. It ends on a cliffhanger and they'll never come back. Don't cheat

Speaker 2:

Mind. You're predicting. This is not a cliffhanger, but again, like we can get distracted and drive the podcast into a discussion about Ashley's evil, dead, both to take that off Favorite bits. Okay. So I mean, Nick kind of spoiled it earlier by talking about spoiled milk, but we'll, we'll keep trucking. All right, Nick, your favorite bit. And that might be it unless you have, I don't know what else are you going to say if that was already it,

Speaker 3:

But all my favorite bit. I mean, that was one I, but I don't want to spoil it on another one of how these aliens are affected by a certain thing we shower with not shower with. I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no. Uh, that, Whoa, actually I, I guess by saltwater, right? I love how they're affected by the things that are so easy for us to take affected the aliens so different. And I always, I really appreciated that like the little things like milk that we drink or, or salt water, you know what I mean? Like something so simple for us could like kill something else. Kind of like a common cold or a common cold and war of the worlds. I always,

Speaker 2:

It was really different. Like they look from the outside, cover their spots, they have no hair, they're bold and they have these weird, they have these pattern spots like turtles or something. Um, and uh, but their Nana was all weird. Like their genitals are in their armpits or something. I don't know. Cause like, remember like at one point, at one point in the movie he's like, Hey, what are you doing? That's not how you heard a new calmer try this next time. It's stuff like that. But um, and also what their favorite food to eat Beaver instead of burgers, you know? And I really appreciate that,

Speaker 3:

That aspect of this movie, it was like, Oh, I can imagine if you ran the script and like, you know what, burgers Beaver saltwater can kill them, get drunk off milk. I just

Speaker 2:

Well are good ideas, but they don't cost filmmakers a lot of money to do those. Right. Get some expired milk, good.

Speaker 5:

Want to kill? What kind of killed me is, is like they learn real fast. He said he learned English in three months and yet he got to the rank of detective, but didn't know what a condom is. So like it found, it kind of found it funny, like what they did know and what they did.

Speaker 3:

They didn't know what they didn't teach him. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So that to me just reminded me of that movie where, um, what's his name? Defected from Russia

Speaker 3:

With a row of

Speaker 2:

Cultural difference in the Hudson. Yeah. Because if you think about that, they're just playing up stereotypes in this movie too. So it'd be the same of like immigrants or whatever. Right. You know, like, and at the time different foods, different cultures,

Speaker 3:

Whatever, you know, um,

Speaker 2:

Favorite bit the condom joke. No, well, no that, I mean, that's, that's cool. Um,

Speaker 5:

Actually I kind of got a giggle in my mind. It felt like this take took place in the same world as breaking bad when something was revealed, I was like, wait, did breaking bad still from alienation, like how they built their drug operation underground,

Speaker 3:

Uh, spoiler alert. Um,

Speaker 5:

But th that kind of killed me. I just imagined like an alien Walter and Jesse Pinkman, like sitting down, making the drug for the aliens. Like, it just felt very much like

Speaker 3:

In idea to Photoshop tomorrow. That sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. Criminal underworld, alien, bad nation or something, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Actually if they, if they that's how they rebooted alienation, like if they said it's breaking bad, but with aliens,

Speaker 3:

Wow. That could work. It would work. I already want to watch it. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But they, um, they backlogged it cause uh, Disney bought the flux catalogs. Right. So they shelved the remake, like they were getting ready to do the next year. So the D I dunno, we

Speaker 5:

Complete our reading, but watching this, I'd say bring

Speaker 2:

It on. They move on to that other show with, um, is it Allen tier? Is that his name? He's the guy from Firefly. They made a show about, uh, uh, the medical examiner being an alien in a small town in Alaska solving crimes. I wonder if that is like the bare bones, like the materials. I wonder if that's the materials for what the new alienation was going to be, but sidebar is like, no, here's our new show

Speaker 5:

A few years ago called, um, almost human with, um, uh, Carl urban before the boys were, it was like him and a robot that was very much like this kind of, this kind of dynamic.

Speaker 2:

I actually liked that show, but it only lasted one season.

Speaker 6:

Hmm. Do you like bicentennial, man?

Speaker 5:

Never seen that. I've never seen it either. I'd never heard. I always talked that one up to me. It looks so bad. I've heard it was bad. I don't know though for sure. And her job's feelings.

Speaker 2:

I really liked that one. That one ended up like on our feel-good movie list actually it's in that kind of genre. Um, I can't feel good about how ugly that robot is. He gets a better looking over time, boiler alert. He's basically the sideboard by the end. He is living tissue and finds a soul. Yeah. Um, Adam, your favorite, favorite bit or scene or something from alienation when he got, well,

Speaker 6:

I liked the whole movie, but, um, I thought that the, the shot scene in the beginning and the, that the culminates in, in, uh, in a big fight and, uh, I was just really impressed with like how big that felt. And there's all kinds of the squibs going off. And it seems like a simple scene. I was just really getting a kick out of, uh, the fight scene and stuff in the beginning. I feel like they spend a lot on that part.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, they wanted to introduce all the alien stuff and they kind of did it in a way that's almost naturalistic. Right. They went to, um, the bad word for aliens in the movie, which is a naughty, dirty word. It's called slag. And then, so they called that part of LA slag town, which looks like they shot in like the real Korea town or something. And they put alien symbols all over, like the, the signs, like the mini-mart and all this crap. And Adam's referring to like a big shootout that takes place. And then like, then you realize, Oh, the aliens can't be taken down by like a 22 revolver. You know what I mean? Like they're really jacked up. Right. So they're stronger and it's dangerous. And then like the, the accident with the partner and then like, yeah, then it's a, almost a lethal weapon, esque moment. And then we get into like the nitty gritty of the story, but you got to come in then for writing James con's character who, whose characters name is Sykes, which is the same name. You know, obviously the characters in the show are the same names kind of life or whatever, but he's like, obviously prejudice. He doesn't like aliens and then an alien kills his partner, but then he, you gotta give him credit for having a bright idea to volunteer, to take him on as a partner, because he knows the two murder cases are linked.

Speaker 3:

Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Two cases are linked. So you gotta give him credit for that. Um, my favorite thing is like the character building scene that involves the spoiled milk, because it allows you to say like, hang out, like in movies, you need the scene that gets cut on the floor. Is that extra two minutes or whatever, the let's just hang out with the characters. And then, then if they get killed, then we go, Oh man, I feel bad because I got that extra two minutes to hang out. Yeah. So they're sitting there talking about to being two dads. One's the strings from his daughter is getting married, that Sykes he's drinking vodka. And then the alien is upset that his wife's going to be mad that he stayed out too late and he's drinking the spoiled milk or chewing on it rather. But it's a really good scene where they're their children up his character so that the spoiled milk, um, character building scene is my favorite of the whole movie because it made it seem, it made it seem real. Like the aliens could be there, you know, um, hanging out in LA working day jobs. So you, you know what I mean? So

Speaker 3:

I played a joke to an alien. What?

Speaker 2:

Oh, like he's trying to explain. I really like a well known joke over and over again. Right. Cause he doesn't get the punchline.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. It felt real like, Oh, it was getting frustrating.

Speaker 2:

Now I'm expanding our world a little bit because not everybody likes the movies we watch sometimes, but we also discover some hidden gems for them, which I think they then tell us, they go back and watch or they wouldn't have seen, like I know I'm really, uh, um, I'm really selling that movie Wolf of us know hollow a lot, but people still need to watch that John, I still need so, so we've arrived at what should people be watching? Because there was so many choices, but then so many nights where you sit up and you can't like, I mean, I got Hulu stars. I mean greedy little fat pig when it comes to these movies. But sometimes I like have nothing to watch and you know what I mean? So it's so special that we get to share with the audience, things that they might want to actually watch in the middle of the night when they can't think of anything to watch. Um, Nick, what did you watch?

Speaker 3:

All right. I'm going to sell you guys on something. I watched it last night. So we got these, we got these poachers killing these like tigers, right. And then, and then the tiger escapes and it kills the poachers. Then we got Megan Fox coming in as a SWAT team. Like as the, as the head of this SWAT team thing, that's going in and infiltrating these guys who are, who are like taking underage girls and like using them. And then they go in and kill a bunch of them and then they're following them. And then we end up back at the poacher place with a lion. I mean, where the tiger was in the beginning and then the tigers out and it's killing Megan Fox's team and then it's killing the other guys. It was awesome. I love this movie. I'm really confused. You watch a movie about killer tigers. Yeah. It's killer tigers, but it's kind of like predator to where they're going in. I mean, not predator too.[inaudible] it's called rogue. It just came out and I loved it. And the only thing I didn't love about it where the tiger CGI effects, but is it a monster movie? Like did the title rogue tiger that starts killing a bunch of people that go into this camp and it's awesome. I, I, and I was like, Oh yeah, it's really good. And the, um, the only thing was the CGI. I was just like, Oh no, but besides that, it was actually like, how is this movie where Megan Fox is the star, so good. I'm telling you, I want you guys watch it.

Speaker 5:

All right. I'm going to be a friend. Say you got my vote. Only because every time I saw the poster for this, I thought she was just a soldier like Iraq or something. No. And it just looked like a generic, like she's a lady soldier, like

Speaker 3:

You're talking about just came out. It just seems like an army movie days, right? No, it does in the first half an hour is an army movie. But actually the action's good. And you're like, Oh, you know what? This is some cool. I mean, the way they shot it, like the director of photography it's it's on point it's just, and then it becomes like a robe tiger movie. It's great.

Speaker 5:

So is this like, um, the GIJ meets army or, um, uh,

Speaker 3:

Goes to the darkness. Okay. So Dave getting a point what'd you guys give me, I'm not going to watch this. I'm so confused by what this movie zero from John. All right, Adam, I love your enthusiasm. And you had me all the way up until I heard bad CGI. And then I thought of legend in the zombies, in that movie. And it was like, Oh, I'm not going to lie in anything. They did it way more creative than that, but I can, you know what? I get that. So I get a point. Okay. I shouldn't, I shouldn't have said the flaw of the movie. Got it. And then you told me as something that's so negative that makes me want to run away in the opposite direction. That was my bad. I deserved everything. Yes. That part made it a no. So is that a half or is that a, I don't know what it is. I'm going to let you guys into, what do you guys think? It means it goes on my no watch list. I, I guess it's a pressure on this round. I'm not putting any pressure on it. All right. All right. I got, I got, um, the pressures on me being able to communicate. No, no, no. And I, I said bad CGI you're right. I shouldn't, I did good. I did. Probably, if you had not mentioned Megan Fox and just said, I watched a good movie about killer tires, dude. I, and I thought about that too. When I was pitching, I'm like bad CGI Megan Fox and I just killed myself. I probably could've got for tonight. I up. I'm sorry. I messed up. Yeah, next time guys. I'll win the next time you watch outside the show.

Speaker 5:

All right. So, um, I watched another alien movie. Uh, this one was real well. Alienation is great to, uh, fire in the sky. I watched this for the first time. Um, I don't know. Have you guys had, I'm sure somebody else has seen this movie Alien innovation movie guys in Arizona, um, lose

Speaker 3:

Vacation, logging town,

Speaker 5:

Stop and see a light. Uh, take some. And then it's like, it's an investigation. It's a police procedural of like trying to figure out where their friend went. Um, but I, the reason why you should watch this is, um, the last, what, like 15, 20 minutes are some of the most terrifying moments I've ever seen of like an alien invasion. Like I'm I was like gripping the seat the whole time. Like the scenes inside the spaceship and the aliens themselves. No bad CGI. These were actual puppets or whatever. Uh, yeah. I don't know this, the, the, just the invasion scene or him in the spaceship just really creeped me out being CA you know? Ah, so that's why you should watch it for, if you want to see something terrifying, a terrifying alien movie.

Speaker 3:

Hmm. I'm going to say one thing. I love this movie so much, but the only thing you did sold me on Dave was the police procedure. I felt like I have to watch this boring stuff and then get to the last 15 minutes. So I'm going to give you a half point, like the police per se. All right. Well, no, no, no. I know I'm going off. I'm I dude, I love the movie, but I'm going off what you tell me, you know? So yeah. I give you a point to this movie and hearing enthusiasm again, and some excitement in having very murky remembrance of it. I think I'd watch it again, based on what you said. So you got a point. Yeah. All right. So no bad CGI. That was my bad. That was my bad. If you watch the movie as a documentary, it's going to freak you out because they recently hang on papers that says, Hey, aliens are here, deal with it.

Speaker 2:

So if you go into the movie thinking like that, it's going to be terrifying. As Dave said. Yeah,

Speaker 5:

It does say based on a true story. So there's that?

Speaker 2:

Well, they discredited the guys at their book. I think it's the same guy that wrote communion. And it's a crock of, but

Speaker 5:

I forgot. I didn't see, like, I didn't realize what a good cast ahead in it. Like Regan, Patrick, right after a Terminator too. Like I was like, Oh, with a mullet. And he's really, he's really good in it. Actually. He really was. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I forgot he was in it, David. What's another point.

Speaker 6:

Ooh, gosh.

Speaker 5:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

Leave the head. Okay. Um, Adam, what did you watch outside of the show?

Speaker 6:

Well, I was fooling around on shutter and I found this movie called Turkey shoot. And, uh, it's, it's a really fun movie. Um, a lot of it, a lot of my enjoyment in films is me not recognizing a big actor and then finding a gem of things I can truly escape into without actors that I've seen a zillion, other movies, and this fits the bill. So it's an old movie.

Speaker 2:

If you come across actors you've seen in other movies, like it takes you out of the movie. You're currently watching

Speaker 6:

Sometimes because if I feel like the actor is playing too much, like stuff they've played in other movies, it's familiarity is too much and it hurts. It hurts my ability to suspend my disbelief of them as a new character. For instance, like Bruce Willis, Bruce Willis is Bruce Willis. Pretty much. He is NASA other movie. I feel like, Oh, is this a diehard? Is he doing a diehard thing? You know, I don't know. It just, it's hard for me to see them as a different character unless they put on the effort to be a different character. Although I don't feel the same way about, uh, in some kittens. Sometimes I feel the same way about Denzel Washington, but always, sometimes Denzel makes it into a different enough character so that I'm like, Oh, okay, well this is the character. And not Denzel some. He can do that sometimes. And other actors can do it every time. And some care, some actors can't do it at all. Like,

Speaker 5:

So I think you're talking about bad actors because every actor is their job to make you think that it's not them. So I think you're talking about a lot of bad actors like Bruce Willis, Denzel is good.

Speaker 6:

Well, this is a bad actor. Um, Bruce Bose is a compelling human being. I, you know, I don't know. I, I know what you're seeing has played the parts that are different. That was kind of unfair for me to use Bruce right off the bat. I mean,

Speaker 5:

I don't know where we're at right now.

Speaker 6:

Okay. The movie is a Turkey shoot and it's a movie made in the past about the future, um, which is fun. And it's about a bunch of people that end up by one way or the other and him having to stay in a camp so that they can become reeducated and, and Burt back to the society that they're, they're estranged from. Uh, so they're getting transport against their will. And as soon as they get to this place, it's like running man or something. They're doing terrible things to people. Uh,

Speaker 2:

Wait, so are they the turkeys or the people? The turkeys. They're the ones getting shot. Yeah,

Speaker 6:

Pretty much. Yeah. Getting abused.

Speaker 2:

Start there. Start there. It's a contest where people are treated like turkeys stars and start there.

Speaker 6:

Anyway, they got to jump through hoops. Uh, ridiculous games are put through

Speaker 2:

You like robbing yourself of at least two points. Yeah. If you had said, if you had told me and Nick that it's called Turkey shoot and people are treated like turkeys and they get shot at, in a contest, something like that. Would've been like, okay, cool.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Like it's almost like less is more like, I'm like, dude, that would have been good. I agree. I wouldn't read that on a box and then like, that's cool. Yeah. I'll I'll still give him half a point. Cause this is my radars.

Speaker 2:

So I'll give him one. It's been on my radar for a while and then I'm

Speaker 6:

Getting points. Okay, fine.

Speaker 2:

You got a mercy point from me. You got two half's from them. So you actually have two points

Speaker 3:

Or two halves. Okay. So he's got two phones. It's two points. Okay. Yeah. They still need with two and a half. Oh John, it's on you dude.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I guess. But Carmen,

Speaker 3:

You know, you always screw yourself and you go last. I've noticed this though.

Speaker 2:

So I watched this movie called fury. It's a war movie. If you like horror movies, you're going to love it. If you hate war movies, you're also going to love it because it goes down in the middle of the road and shows you things that why you should appreciate war movies, but also hate them at the same time. It's actually based on a real Sergeant. He took out like 258 enemy tanks. And if your Jones into replace your tank movies like tank 89 or 10 girl from 95 or Kelly's heroes from 70, or even if you saw something more obscure like Bulletproof from 88, you're going to love the cast. Brad Pitt, Charlotte buff, uh, Logan Lerman, John Benthale who's in Punisher now. And Michael Pena doing something other than comedy. He's actually a really good dramatic actor. I'm hearing. There you go.

Speaker 6:

Well, the high point there was mentioning Kelly's heroes. The reference. Yeah. Right?

Speaker 3:

Does that mean than I thought? Yeah. I dunno. I, I didn't learn. I mean, I liked the reference dropping.

Speaker 5:

Maybe the problem here is I'm too short and you guys are too long. I say not enough. And you guys say,

Speaker 3:

I feel like it might be. Yeah. I think we're all like, we all need to find that middle ground. It's tough. Yeah. I'll give you a half John. Cause I, I do love like tank. It would be unfair of me to give you anything. If I D if I, if I got turned off by negative CGI with Nick's movie. So yeah. Rogue, I get it. It makes me want to watch rogue and give Nick more of a point. Oh wait, can we go back? Yeah. There you go.

Speaker 5:

So you would have gotten me if you told us that Shiloh

Speaker 3:

Booth actually took out his tooth for no other reason. Just because he's a character actor for this movie. Wait, he has a removable tooth. Well, no.

Speaker 5:

He went to a dentist to have a tooth removed. Just

Speaker 3:

This movie. Are you kidding? That's crazy. No

Speaker 5:

Tax collector. He got a full back body tattoo and you hardly see it in the movie.

Speaker 3:

What? An idiot. Sorry. That's like terrible. Yeah. You

Speaker 5:

Know, I got to see them. I'll give John a point. I got

Speaker 3:

To rewatch that I'll see you. Okay. We got the tennis save his organic tooth. Or did he get an implant after he destroyed his own tooth? Probably got an it probably better to get an implant period. Are you going to watch theory? That's out. Adam's the only one we got. I don't, it doesn't sound interesting to me. I liked the references though. All except for, so that's a zero for Adam. Okay. All right. Well it's really, I lost guys with one point, uh, John, you have one and a half points. Adam has two and Dave one with two and a half. There it is a one one. Once you finally one, there you go. Fire this guy, man. You got to start bringing in dramas. It is a good one. It's like, yeah. It is like me being you minute men at work. You kind of go like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:

Actually, no, it's a game. There's a lot of pressure to find a good movie that can win.

Speaker 3:

It is kind of tough. Yeah. Just bringing up. Hey, by the way I saw this movie about a shark. I feel like I totally enjoy the movie that, uh, that I've fumbled describing.

Speaker 5:

Sometimes it's hard. Like I told John that, like I watched a bunch of movies this week and none of them were worth talking about, so I was like, fine. What do you bring when you have nothing worth talking to?

Speaker 3:

Or it's like, you really do think it's a good movie. Like rogue actually thought was good. But the CGI, how much, like, God it took me out. But at the same point you saw everything else being, and you're like, why didn't they just give it two or three more million on a better effects company? You know? Why didn't they have an actual tiger attacking people? Well that too. Yeah. Give me some rental or Stan Winston effects company. You know,

Speaker 2:

There was a movie who was in that movie a long time ago where they had the real tires and they,

Speaker 3:

Oh, that was Melanie Griffin. No, dude. That is crazy.

Speaker 2:

Maybe not tigers. Maybe there was actually,

Speaker 5:

No, it was a bunch of different cats. Like, Oh dude was all like, I would die to cover that movie. I love that movie so much. It's so nice story behind it

Speaker 3:

Lived on that freaking place. Like she actually was dude. Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Yolanda bot basically got scalped and then came back and finished shooting the movie.

Speaker 3:

You're like, I'm over this guys. Wow. Totally. It's crazy. It's one of the most roundabout that like 80, it took a few years to film.

Speaker 5:

It took like two or three years to shoot because they kept having to stop and start, stop and start because people get attacked

Speaker 2:

Where they were living with these cats in Africa, on their property or something. Right?

Speaker 5:

No, this wasn't like our, not Glendale, but like somewhere in the Valley or, or, or the outskirts? This wasn't Hollywood ish. Uh it's. Yeah. It was like Tippi Hedren, uh, had a big cat community because she was an activist for cats or you know, like big game cats and they shot up family movie and there's like real blood in a family movie.

Speaker 3:

It's weird. It's a weird, yeah. Wow. Got I love the eighties. You do cocaine.

Speaker 2:

What's worth watching next week. What are we going to cover next week?

Speaker 3:

Oh, well next week guys. Let me tell you, uh, but first don't forget to visit our social media, drop us an email or reach out with a movie review request, but next week tune in because we're going back in the day to night at the creeps. I'm excited about this one. I love this. Yes. I don't even want to, I don't know. I'm already foreshadowing. How much I love this movie. This,

Speaker 5:

This is like blob level. Like I'm excited.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I am. I haven't seen this movie in six years, so I'm actually really excited before, after day that creeps. I don't know. Maybe it was

Speaker 5:

Just after Dawn, Dawn,

Speaker 3:

Dawn, Dawn of the night of the creeps. I wish they would've done it. Fred, Fred, Fred Decker. Decker. That director. Yeah. It's good stuff. Monster squad. So you're in good hands. Anyways. Is the negativity saying lights loops, boots. Go by.