Feeling Good With Gung Ho

WE ARE GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT FEEL GOOD MOVIES SO FOR THE AUDIENCE WATCHING ALONG AT HOME, A feel-good film is a film which presents people and life in a way which makes the people who watch it feel happy and optimistic.

Before we talk about Gung Ho let’s go to Home Video Headlines and see what we have heard about movies and TV...

Great actor and man’s man, Sir Sean Connery passed, so we mention our favorite movies of his remarkable and extensive filmography such as League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Dragon Heart, Highlander, Untouchables, Hunt For Red October, and many more.

Tonight’s movie is Gung Ho.  An unemployed auto factory foreman played by Michael Keaton goes to Japan to cut a deal with a company to reopen his auto plant back home and save his hometown.  There is a culture class and debate about work ethics, but ultimately, seeing it from both sides, the two groups come together for a common goal.

The supporting cast is very good including George Wendt, Gedde Watanabe, Rick Overton, John Torturro, Rodney Kageyama, and Mimi Rogers.

Our first impression of this movie is the ending is rewarding and exciting, well-earned and this movie tells a great story with a great cast, and it will make anyone who watches it feel good.

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Our favorite bits from this movie include the river ritual, the baseball sequence, the bar scene between the American and Japanese executives, and the satisfying conclusion.  

An audience member named Nick sent us an email because he loves this movie called The Beast from 1988; we read his email during the episode to explore his love for this movie and get the word out from one movie fan to another.

Next week we are watching The Hunt For The Wilder People.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

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Speaker 2: 0:28

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Speaker 3: 0:35

From the last movie that Dave and I watched in person together, I think. But then we tried to watch a couple of things and there was this thing called rabbit, but that was before they started doing like group watch on Disney plus and like party on Netflix, like a rabbit was like log into your accounts and all your friends could come in and watch it. And we tried to wrap it a couple of times. We tried to rabbit, um, I think Groundhog's day, it didn't quite work. And then we tried remember for predator too, and it kind of screwed up the sound on predator too. You know, we, we tried to throw a commentary episode together and it kind of blew up the story on us. So, you know, Hey, listen, learn folks. Don't use this app named rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. It's gone. Just like a what's that vertical TV app that just disappeared. Um, yeah. QB has gone billion dollar experiment. I hope that Reno nine 11 guys got some real cash out of that deal because they had the best show going on there. Let's see here. All right. We're going to start talking about feel good movies. So for the audience that's following along at home, uh, call, I think it's Collins dictionary or dictionary.com to find the feel-good movie as a film, which presents people in life in a way that makes the people who watch it, they'll happy and optimistic. But before we talk about gung ho, let's go to home video headlines and see what we've heard about movies and TV. Um, actually, I mean, probably the biggest headline is Sean Connery died. I mean, dude lived to 90. I mean, that's gotta be a pretty fulfilled life and pretty good luck, man. Starting at a ton of movies, one of the greatest actors of all time considered a man's man basically generally got the respect of every other man on the planet. So anybody button while also being nice to women, I don't think there's a bad story of the dude. There's no me too. Sean Connery stories out there as far as I know, you know, what's funny about this. Like if you're listening to audio, you can't see the expression on Dave's face that I just created, but if you're watching the video version, then, then you're going to kick out of that one. Um, we're just going to go around the room and uh, talk about like our, our favorite Sean Connery movies. Let's uh, let's start with Nick. You got a couple that you, you like from dear old shot, sir. Sean Connery.

Speaker 4: 3:02

I have two, but I'll just go with hunter at October. I, that was like freaking incredible. And he's so good in that movie and it's, it's a great movie. I watched it like a year ago. It still holds up

Speaker 3: 3:13

What movie?

Speaker 4: 3:15

And for red October.

Speaker 3: 3:16

Oh yeah. Okay. That's like my least favorite. Like I think I said that I was talking about watching, being obsessed with all these, some, some Marine dramas, like disappointed me, you know, a lot of hype, you know, sometimes get so famous. There's like a lot of hype, you know, like, like, um, Dave didn't you recently watch Scarface. No, no. That was on your list of like getting Chinatown,

Speaker 5: 3:44

Which is what you gave me crap.

Speaker 3: 3:45

Oh, I remember. Oh yeah. Dave has a few golden, all these that he's got to get through and yeah. Um, uh, all right. So Dave, what's one of your favorite Sean Connery movie or a few of them. It could be more than one. It doesn't have to be one. It could be whatever

Speaker 5: 4:03

I'm going to give you two. And they're both from 96 and these, uh, I mean, these are kind of obvious, but like these two I saw, I think at the driving, when I was that age, it came out. Uh, but Dragonheart and the rock, like those hold a special place for me. Cause I mean, those came out in the same summer, like I said.

Speaker 3: 4:21

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 4:22

Oh yeah, yeah,

Speaker 5: 4:25

Yeah. Um, and, and that goes to show how good of an actor he was. Cause it was just a voice performance, but like, it. You're not welling up at the end of that movie. I'm just saying like music kicks in and you're like, oh God, it's a dragon, but no, so

Speaker 6: 4:42

It

Speaker 5: 4:43

Is

Speaker 3: 4:44

Yeah. Yeah. It's redeemable redemptive, right? Yeah. Yeah. It can be considered a feel-good movie for sure. Um, Adam, we're over to you, you got a few Sean Connery movies that you like.

Speaker 6: 4:56

Yeah. Um, when I was younger, I read this like a Rudyard Kipling story. Uh, the man who would be king or whatever it was about these two, like British guys that ended up, you know, trying to take over a small country being like evil little status. And they're like subjugate the people. And it's like, it's a commentary on British imperialism. And uh, Sean Connery was in the movie version of it in 1975 with Michael Caine. It's kind of a strange pick, but it's worth a watch. It's very peculiar. It's very interesting film. Um, and the other one is a time bandits, Terrie, Guillory, or early Terry Gilliam movie. A lot of people don't realize Sean Connery's even in that movie. And it's so like, whoa, when he plays this, you know, generous king takes the boy under his wing and vital role in that movie. And it was probably as a child probably the first time I saw Sean Connery, not in a double oh seven movie. So those are my picks. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 5:57

I kinda said I'll second Adams, a man who would be king. I almost picked out myself, but that's like a really good under seen movie of his yeah. He's in a lot of James Bond movie. Like he's like the number one guy that played James Bond besides, um, what's his name? Roger Moore. Yeah. And uh, but he's also his last games. One movie was, he said he would never do it again. And his wife came up with the title and never say never again was literally the last days. Mom, that kind of felt a little bit of comedy. Right. I mean, here's my list also. Dragonheart I love Dragonheart. But I also have league of extraordinary gentlemen where he plays, um, the hunt, the skilled hunter, like all the monsters and go after like all the baddies in that. And they tried to make that movie series. Yeah. It was one of his lines by the way. He, when he did good, I mean, he, he said like, he doesn't understand like superhero movies, like he was offered. They offered him to play like maybe I don't know who it was. Aragorn or organic. Somebody get off me like a Lord of the rings. And he's like, his quote is like, I don't understand this. See pass, but the poor guy got dementia. So who knows what happened first dementia. I pass it on that movie. Um, but uh, I also like him in, okay. I mean, this is like definitely a flight of fancy and you got to suspend your disbelief because he's not a Spaniard and it's hard to believe he was a Spaniard, but his name was Ramirez. He still had a Scottish accent in the Highlander series. He's the mentor of the main immortal he teaches, uh, um, you know, Connor, I think it's Connor. MacLeod is first and then Duncan comes. Yeah, just Connor MacLeod, how to be in a mortal and um, and then battles the Kurgan in the original. But then he gets brought back in the second one was a little bit of magic. Time-travel whatever you want to say it is. But anyway, um, and last but not least, I think this is the one who won the academy award for his on touchables. Right. He plays an Irish beat cop who gets, uh, assigned to like the first branch of the FBI or whatever it is. And they're like going after, um, Capone right in Chicago or whatever he gets the guys that she got away. Um, yeah, but when I'm talking about, well, we're not spending the whole night talking about Sean Connery movies. Um, again, what we could, we could, it could be an episode. Yeah. There definitely could be a retrospective, but tonight's movie has gone home from 1986. It's a Ron Howard movie last year, Dave and I actually did a pretty decent run of Ron Howard stuff. When we talked about Willow, we did mention, um, backtrack. We did talk about a little bit about gung-ho it's, it's a definitely a feel good movie pick for me. And that's why I threw it out for today's episode, being up to bat with the selections. That's just something that came down to the wire and it's like, let's do this movie. Um, it's also called the working class man, like in the UK, in Australia, as it gets released, but essentially an American auto who was like a foreman at a closed plant, spends his own money to go to Japan and convinced a Japanese automobile company to go and reopen the plant in his hometown. He's convinced his whole, his whole town. That's a good idea. Cause they're all rooting for him to do it. And it's of course played by Michael Keaton, the guy who could deliver false promises, like no other person in the history of[inaudible]. Yeah, exactly. So kind of like the top of his game, he flies off to Japan to come visit us auto company and they, they bind him as BS cause they go and reopen the factory on the promise that like you make a certain amount of cars, we'll keep the factory open. If they don't no race, no union, we close the plant forever, blah, blah, blah. And then it's like a classic cultures. You're bringing the Japanese executives that have their own thing. And like we see that right, like right in the beginning of the movie, the differences. And uh, but what's funny about this movie is business schools, um, economics classes and, uh, Toyota training uses this as, uh, basically they say like, this is how not to manage Americans as Toyota Toyota plays this to their executives. Right? Yeah. And then business schools over here, we'll also watch this movie and examine it. But, um, some interesting trivia is like the factory is realistic. They were actually building Fiats two types of Fiat's the Regata and this Bozzio in Argentina. So they spent like a number of weeks down at a real auto plant that had been closed and then reopened it for the movie. Um, supposedly the screenwriter, Edward bloom was watching 60 minutes about, you know, uh, Asian companies coming in and buying out American companies or American companies that were in the dumps, like revitalizing them with foreign money. And, but then it was like, there's another screw vendor. I've never heard of this lady. Her name is Diane. As I'm off Simon, put out like a counterclaim saying, no, no, that's my story. Like ed Blum, didn't come over this story or whatever, but we get a great movie either way. I don't know what the conflict is with, who actually came up with the story, but we're going to end up with a really good movie and get one to an OB who was a Japanese American from Oregon, Utah of all places. I didn't know he was from, from Utah. He also went to like a couple of the teen movies from the eighties. Right. Per diem. 16 candles. Yeah. There you go. Um, so it was one line from that and I didn't know, he grew up in Utah, but he does. And uh, you obviously get, um, the supporting cast has mixed with some comedians and some people you might know, like George Wendt you'd might recognize from cheers. Uh, Rick Overton is a comedian, but he's also wouldn't here. Uh, maybe Rogers. Yeah. John Turturro Ronnie out, running out the guy, the guy that I like also is the little guy, the little short pudgy guy whose wife who's, who wanted to leave work. They go cause his wife was, his name was ITO. The character's name is Edo and he's like dancing towards the end. But his name is Rodney, uh, Rodney kg Yama. And he's actually from San Francisco. So it's funny is they were able to get like, you know, like you talk about casting and like people, like I'm not casting the right people, but this is a good group of like Japanese American actors that have some talent and also like comedic actors at the time that were kind of like coming into their own. Like I think at that time, that at that time, like Michael Keaton had only stopped doing stand-up comedy maybe for a couple of years because he started out, you guys know this Keene started out in like, like standards.

Speaker 4: 12:12

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 12:13

He's actually comedy. Yeah. So they just did a comedy store documentary he's actually in there. And he did does a huge interview with Mike Mike binder that just came out. Yeah, it's pretty good. Um, I think that's all the major cast. Um, well the guy played in Saito. Who's like a sadistic little jerk, the nephew of the main executive, like the guy who owns the company. Right. You know, wants to take over, um, and all these characters job, his name, he, his name is steato or whatever. Um, that's it, I mean, I think I described the movie well enough essentially. Yeah. Um, American auto plant down in stumps. They want to reopen it. This guy has the main character makes a lot of promises, like a good salesman. And he's got to convince the Japanese executives to work with them and they got to try to work with them and him and the other human again, wants to, nobody start. They're kind of in a bad situation, you know what I mean? Like they have a hard road ahead of them, but that thing that's why they're relatable to each other. Um, committing like both sets of workers to pull it together. But let's go to first impressions. I know I'm kind of overselling this movie cause I liked this movie a lot. So like I want to try to convince the audience, watch it at least once, um, go to first impressions. Let's jump over to Nick. What's your first impressions of gung-ho

Speaker 4: 13:31

I got a two things. One. This is Ron Howard, right? Yeah. It was neat. I mean I loved his eighties movies. He was such a great, you forget how many good movies this guy made in the eighties, you know? And also Michael Keane, I just, he, the movie just, he steals the show in this thing and just his performance and I just forgot what a great, like almost comical actor he was, but still he was about to go to like a different level.

Speaker 3: 14:04

Okay, cool. I was like, if you had like a laugh, I was like, that was so it was suspenseful for a second.

Speaker 4: 14:17

Now the internet,

Speaker 3: 14:17

Dave, you got a dangerous first impression for us on the spot.

Speaker 5: 14:22

I don't know if it's dangerous, but I have a first, second impression. Cause I think I saw this movie like one time when I was a kid. So I don't know, figure like five, uh, and I have one memory which will come up later of the movie, but so I kind of watched it with fresh eyes. Great movie. I thought this movie is so fun. Um, and it breeds a little, you know, kind of moves along fast. Uh, Michael Keaton has a lot of charisma, all the secondary characters. Um, you know, there's also has, uh, you know, the second secondary characters actually have third dimensions to them. You know, they're not, they don't just feel like just shoving them in there for a plot point. Um, I don't know that the characters felt lived in. I really liked this movie. I had a fun time with it. I felt good.

Speaker 3: 15:06

Yeah. I think you probably took the Adam's first impression there.

Speaker 6: 15:12

Yeah. It made me feel appreciative of, you know, having a job, like, you know, maybe want more people to have jobs and taking pride in your work and, and forging relationships with people, um, in the workplace. I, it, it made them feel so good emanating from like this, this supposedly fiction, but I don't know that the whole thing felt real. Like we were watching these people's lives, you know, and it felt like anything was overactive or anything. So that's, you know, I felt good

Speaker 3: 15:44

Slice of life from AA. Um, my first impression, if I think back, I've seen this movie now a handful of times, maybe more than three, but less than seven somewhere in between five or six times. Um, I think about my first impression was just, it had a good cast and it had a good story. That's what keeps bringing you back as the cast on the story. And I think ultimately like the cast me do well in another movie and that, with that same amount of chemistry, if they're putting the right scenario, you know what I mean? It is almost a situation comedy, but on a bigger scale. Yeah. Um, but that's it great cast. If I had a simple first impression, I would just be the people that are in the movie. Um, wow. Okay. So we'll right back after these messages tonight, we're actually sponsored by Mack Weldon, which is a clothing company. They are trying to establish some kind of new normal for everyone that's out there and they want to bring you casual buttons up in jeans and knit polos. They got you covered with the unmatched comfort and fit. Um, my experience with Mac woven is I ordered these super, super, super comfortable socks. They come in these little packages here and they have a great title for their underwear. 18 hour jerseys. I don't know if you can actually wear them in hours. I don't recommend that, but they are pretty comfortable. So if you're looking for quality stuff at a reasonable prices and uh, you know, I'm a working class guy, but when you put these on you feel like a million bucks, if that's your thing. Um, so they got socks, shirts, hoodies, underwear, polos, um, they promised comfort and consistent fit so far. I've been pretty comfortable. Um, they look great. They feel great for everyday life. They got a wide range of custom fabrics. They actually have a loyalty program. You have to look into that. It's called woven blue. They guarantee you're going to be comfortable for 20% off. Your first order, you can go to Mack weldon.com/binge Watchers and your permit code binge Watchers, that's Mack weldon.com/binge Watchers from COVID binge Watchers for 20% off Mack Weldon. Who's reinventing men's basics. And, um, and that's it for these messages because all you get guys is it's seconds. You don't get any more. That's the, that's the way it works around here. Trying to have a show, try to run a show. You want to see the underwear. There's been a request to see these. Uh,

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Speaker 3: 19:37

[inaudible] you know, what's going to be hard about the next category. Guys is picking your favorite bits from a movie that's full of like great scene and potentially almost every scene is a favorite bit for somebody. Um, Nick, do you have a favorite bit or two from the smooth?

Speaker 4: 19:53

I like, I'm just giving you the gist, but I like the, I don't want to ruin this, but the end when they deliver all the cars and then the cars are not perfect.

Speaker 3: 20:04

Well, you can just say the ending as well earned, you know,

Speaker 4: 20:08

But you know what I mean? I thought it was just, it was really good, but the cars aren't like perfectly put together, but they delivered, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 3: 20:16

Yeah. I mean, they had a big order. I mean, they're like give us ours by the end of the month.

Speaker 4: 20:23

I like that. Like Michael keen and all the guys, they all work together as a team. And there's so many bosses I've had that. Like they just stand in the corner and then they blame you when goes wrong. And you're like, no, I liked that he was working his off. I thought that was beautiful. It made you feel good as this is saying, okay.

Speaker 6: 20:41

Yeah. When the Japanese executives were down there on the same line and everybody comes together, it was really an emotional swelling point for me. Like, I'm not gonna lie. I cried at the end. Like I was so happy. It wasn't like, oh, I'm so sad. No, it was like crying. Like there's good in the world. And like people can come together and overcome their differences. And it made me feel really good on the inside. And what a great call this movie. It did everything it was about to do. So

Speaker 5: 21:16

Audience Adam is actually crying right now. If you can't see

Speaker 3: 21:21

The most sentimental thing that gets me is when his friend gets in trouble. When George Wendt and character Buster gets in trouble and he's literally handing him a broom saying, you can't quit your job, dude. You're like, you got two kids. You can't quit your job. Like, like, yeah. You're about to face like maybe the most embarrassing thing in a job environment that you've ever faced. But like, I mean, being a dad, like literally like the first thing you do when you wake up is eat. Like that's your breakfast eating. Like that's a pretty like, uh, they, I think they did such a great job in that scene. I don't know how they got both actors to that level, but like them giving it to each other in that scene, Michael Keaton and George went, that's like that. You can show that scene an acting class or something, or directing class, like just study this five minutes right here. Look at the business. He's bringing, look at the businesses bringing and all they had was a broom. You know what I mean?

Speaker 6: 22:18

I love George Wentz determination. He, he was really in that moment, in that scene. Like, I dunno you weren't, I wasn't thinking about watching a movie. Yeah. I mean, I was watching it on my computer and I was lost in it. That's crazy. Or like there's a whole world going on around you and George is definitely walking.

Speaker 5: 22:39

I think that's where a Ron Howard strength as a director comes in because he was an actor for, because honestly this movie, isn't a flashy movie. Like we can talk about how great this movie is, but it's one thing about the look of it stands out to me, but it's the acting and the characters and all that. Cause it's kind of a drab looking movie when you really think about it. It's very like brown

Speaker 6: 23:03

Ashy.

Speaker 3: 23:04

Yeah. The most I am shots are obviously,

Speaker 6: 23:09

Yeah. There's a look on George wind's face in that movie where they're all in the hospital and the guy's getting taken care of. And they just found out that like, you know, he's, he lied and they sh they cut to George wince, look on his face. Oh my gosh, did I believe that look okay.

Speaker 3: 23:28

So we got to put a little, we got to put a little more story in to explain the set the picture. So, so essentially there's a false promise made to the American workers by their leader, the Michael Keaton character. And he says, by the end of the month, we've got to turn in 13,000 cars. We get a partial raise. When the real deal is hit, that 15,000 mark, you get your full raise and we'll talk about bringing in your union benefits. And, uh, that's another critical scene that I'm talking about. Like when they realize that like they've been working towards a goal that doesn't exist, it's pretty, and they'd been, been betrayed by somebody that they've known for like 20 years. So that that's another big, uh, big moment, um, which falls into a favorite bit. That's for sure. I don't know anybody else's favorite bits. So Dave let's get any jurors in case we might've walked on them. But

Speaker 5: 24:14

I think, I think Nick might be saying the same thing. I'm thinking I'm going to go spoiler alert for 35 year old movie. Um, but like the very, the last kind of joke joke or the movie like Michael keen, so off at the guys says, you know, Hey, no, I'm taking this car. Here's my old car. I'm driving this one off the line. And then turns over. I'm in the clear five feet and the tires fall off. He falls back bumper slapstick moment in a movie. Like he needed that joke right before everything else happened. My dad watched as a kid. Like I remembered that one moment, but,

Speaker 3: 24:59

Well, right before that, he w he like pretended to wax a fake windshield that wasn't there, right?[inaudible] the last five cars of the 50,000 or whatever, you know? Um, but that's funny, you stole my spoiler thunder. Look at that game. You took a spoiler from Johnny. That's hilarious. I don't have any spoilers. I hit my I'm going to go to my favorite bits. Now, the river, the river, the river thing did, they had a ritual where they were bathing in the river all the time, the deputies actives. And then at one point, Michael Keaton joins him. Anybody's baseball fans. Am I the only baseball fan? I'm like rebutted by the American versus of Japanese executives. There's a baseball scene, right? There's a company baseball scene. What sets up the conflict between the one executive and the joint character, which does not the whole thing with the broom. Like we were talking about, um, the bar scene. Oh, what's a slow-mo. Oh,

Speaker 5: 25:55

The slow-mo and the baseball stuff. They did some fancy stuff or, uh, you know, sports movies, stuff. Got a little segment.

Speaker 3: 26:04

Yeah. It was an action movie for about three seconds or kind of cool,

Speaker 5: 26:13

Um, future really had great montage. It was like, let's work together Monday as is which again?

Speaker 3: 26:23

Yeah. So, I mean, we know it's a heartfelt yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes and he spends, like, they spent a considerable amount in Japan actually. Um, taking Michael, they were really in Japan, you know, like they didn't fake it. They didn't soundstage it. They set the access to your band, which is really another unique thing that a movie does. Like when a movie does real things, it's just always so much better. Right? Yeah. You can tell you getting, you could tell what the

Speaker 6: 26:51

Pressure's on. You, you spend the budget, you got them all the way. They're like, alright, do your thing. I mean, it's real, then one round with the, I don't know, the whole G J Japan scene was really interesting, uh, who knows where they filmed that, uh, maybe that was also in Japan. Uh, I'm thinking it was probably here because it was inside, but

Speaker 3: 27:13

The boardroom scene.

Speaker 6: 27:14

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5: 27:16

It's actually, I mean, that's another great bit. Cause like it predates Google, like turning on and off everything by like 30 years and him freaking out.

Speaker 3: 27:26

Oh yeah. The delights,

Speaker 6: 27:31

Those are triggering everything. And they're all, they're already setting the stage for like in cinema for the Japanese to be ahead of us on everything, on everything.

Speaker 3: 27:40

Well, I dunno, it's kind of intriguing because, and they were thinking about that at the time. Right. With Walkmans and all this stuff, you know, things they didn't have clap on, clap off. Uh,

Speaker 6: 27:52

Yeah. My, uh, can I talk about my favorite scene? Are we moving on? What are we doing? Okay.

Speaker 3: 27:57

Yeah. I thought you guys kind of were weaving in and out of them, but yeah. AA is official. His official

Speaker 6: 28:06

Favorite scene is the fall from grace of our beloved main character when Michael Keaton's on the stage. And, and, uh, he tells them he's excitedly telling them the deal that he is made for, like, he's going to beat the Japanese record or whatever. They're going to make 15,000 cars in, in one month, which is probably a huge ramp up. You don't really know all the numbers in the movie, but then, uh, the discussion amongst the guys like, Hey, like that's impossible. Like, you know, like you didn't, you didn't weren't you advocating for us. And then he's, he feels the pressure. And then they start coming up with numbers and he's like agreeing with it. And like, because it's easy to do that under the pressure, instead of just like, no guys, we got to hit 15 and we can, and I told him, you could, he doesn't go all way. He, he has a lapsing, uh, in confidence and, uh, that lapse in confidence leads to a moral compromise. And then it creates the snowball. And he's like, yeah, but don't think about that number approach. And I didn't, he started to minimize the lie that he just told, you know, because all he did was really agree with them and he shouldn't have done that. And the reason I, like, I love that part of the movie is just because it's like the turnkey moment for setting up so much other stuff. And I think everyone has been put in a position like that before. And sometimes you just have to man up and be like, no, you know, 13, no, I did advocate for you guys. It's 15. And you can, but for whatever reason is like little moral failing. And then we got lots of drama out of it for a wider, I mean, that's cool too. It's perfect. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 29:46

Well, and there was a good segue earlier because we were talking about heartfelt moments, but another heartfelt moment or another heartfelt thing that happened this week was we got a fan letter or an email and a, I guess this guy's been tuning in for awhile. He's never communicated with us before, send us an email about a movie he'd like us to cover in the future. And, uh, his name's actually Nick, but it's not our Nick. It's another Nick. Um, I'm not going to read his last name. You know, I'll be, I'll leave it out. Um, basically I'm just gonna read it. I'm gonna read it for the whole audience because I think it's pretty unique. Um, so here we go. Hi guys, my name's Nick, and I'm a while back, I stumbled across a movie. I'd never heard of it completely blew me away. And so I've been desperately trying to convince everyone across movie fandom to give it a shot and hopefully drag out, drag it out of complete obscurity movies called the beast of war, AKA the beast from 88 directed by Kevin Reynolds, starring George, Amanda, Jason, Patrick, and Stephen Bauer. It's only been released in two screens across the whole of the us by Columbia pictures. And I kid you not, when I say it's the best Hollywood film, you've never heard of Quentin Tarantino's old writing partner or Roger, Avery has it down as the best movie of 88 on letterbox. That's an app. That's where people like, um, this is not part of his letter. I'm just explaining what letter boxes for anybody doesn't know. It's an app where you can like rank the movies that you've seen. Um, just kind of a fan boy thing. And then back to this letter. So he says also it's been given a rating of 7.3 and 97 or 3.5 on letter box, but not a single critics review on rotten tomatoes, but it does have an audience score of 84%. A couple of podcasts have reviewed it and favorably they've called it war, horse versus war machine on the, uh, something like the retro movie geeks podcast. I'm not familiar with those guys. The latter on the basis of my recommendation is I continue to pass your criteria and you do something to save this movie from continual obscurity, but I can no longer get anything back from them. Uh, well, please seek this film out. It's available on DVD and streaming. So it won't be difficult to track down if you do see it, let me know if you agree with me that it might be one of the best 10 American movies of the 1980s, one way or another. And we need to find a way to raise this movie's profile and prevented from continual obscurity once and for all. And then he asked us to check out the trailer and he sent us the link. Uh, do, thanks, Nick, for writing in, we love to hear from the audience. This is your entire section. It's called questions from out there. And then from the audience, you can email us@hostatbwpodcast.com. We'd love to hear your stories, want to know what you're watching. So we then can watch them along with you and hear your opinions about the stuff that we're watching every week. Um, so this is a, this is a movie about a Russian tank commander, mental breakdown, as they get separated from their like main squadron or whatever in like a middle east conflict. I think it's. Do you remember the Tom Hanks did a movie where he was helping like Afghan rebels fight? Um, he was a politician. Yeah, yeah. Tom war or whatever it is war. So he plays a politician who was like a real Democrat from Texas or something who went to Afghan. And he was like helping them. The rebels fight like a Russians in the eighties. I think this story, the beast is like the other side. This is the Russians done with the Afghan conflict from their perspective. But this tank unit is separated from the rest of their, their army or unit or whatever. And they're having a bunch of internal conflicts. It kind of reminds me of like the fury, you know what tank movie with Brad Pitt movie. But this, obviously this obviously came up first, Jason, Patrick, he's a great actor. He plays a guy that's like, it's like losing his moral compass because gets more and more crazy. I don't know if you guys have ever, I mean, the beat

Speaker 4: 33:22

I've heard of it until this letter, but I'm watching the trailer right now and silent in the visual is looking incredible. And I liked the director,

Speaker 6: 33:30

Robin hood.

Speaker 3: 33:33

I mean, it's not, it may have been more timely in the eighties because that was when that direct conflict was going on. I think like today, I mean, this is definitely not the month to watch this movie. Cause we're not, we're not doing movies as compost for like, as Adam said earlier, we're trying to do movies that are bringing people together. Then people feel better about like where things are. And, um, it'd be hard to watch this movie now because you're revisiting like an old conflict. So like some things maybe shouldn't be rediscovered. I mean, we'll give it a fair shot. If this guys has supposedly one of the best movies of the eighties, we'll investigate. We'll go and see what the deal is.

Speaker 5: 34:08

Okay. Have you ever stocking this on the shelf a lot? When I worked at a video store, I always remember seeing it when he said Jason, Patrick, I'm like, oh, I remember that cover. I have a weird mind for that. Even if I haven't seen the movie, I can remember the cover. Cause they used to stock them all the time at the videos tour.

Speaker 4: 34:22

It looks pretty good. I I'm down to check it out. Okay.

Speaker 3: 34:27

Adam, what do you think about Nixon and us and his letter and introducing us to this movie?

Speaker 6: 34:33

Uh, well, we'll see if it pans out as a good, good film. Um, I'm on a feel-good kick. I don't know. I kind of feel good, feel good, but I don't feel good. I'm going to be like, it makes you feel good. You might need to go see us maybe December.

Speaker 3: 34:55

Well, I don't know. He said, I mean, what did he say in here? He said, it's one of the best movies of the 88. He said, you got to see

Speaker 6: 35:07

It's better than diehard. Come on. Sometimes like the academy award winning crap at the end, we're on the field. Good kit. You going to Find a lost feel-good movie. I don't want me,

Speaker 3: 35:26

You know, one day, like we're going to fall apart and not have time to prepare anything. Like we're not going to have notes. We're not going to have a movie that we watch. And like this next segment is going to be the thing that saves the entire episode. What is becoming our personal favorite section? Because it's always a surprise. We don't know what each other are watching every week. Unless we text each other in the middle of the night. Hey, I just, this and that kind of. This is[inaudible].

Speaker 5: 35:53

I'm assuming

Speaker 3: 35:56

Dave in my mind, but here's the thing in my mind. That's how Dave sends every single text message. That's what I hear when he sends his animate. He loves me. I don't know if I push it too hard. He's going to bring up the movie that dare not speak its name, so. Okay. Um, what else are the binge Watchers watching? Let's shoot over to Nick. Nick. What'd you watch this week?

Speaker 4: 36:30

Oh guys, I watched one of our boys that was on the podcast a while ago. I watched one of his classic nineties movies, ski school. He has never skewed.

Speaker 3: 36:40

Did I know you were going to Dean Cameron.

Speaker 4: 36:46

Good man. It's like ski awesome ski scene, party, bunch of pranks stuff like revenge of the nerves and then random softcore sex scene. And then repeat, repeat, repeat it. It's great. I love it. And Decameron is amazing in this. And so is his partner. I think Stuart frickin,

Speaker 3: 37:05

Nikki, wait for the episode notes here. Random softcore sex.

Speaker 4: 37:17

[inaudible] Dude. I'm telling you it holds up. Great. It's beautiful.

Speaker 3: 37:26

Dave, what are you watching?

Speaker 5: 37:29

Um, I'm uh, I actually watched a new new movie. I paid 25 bucks to watch the Kraft legacy and I actually really liked it surprisingly. Um, I was ready to hate it cause I love the first one. Uh, it doesn't it's I will say this much. It's maybe a remake for the first 15 minutes and then it does its own thing. Um, so I, I really liked it. I've seen it get beat up by people online. I say, if you like the original don't hesitate, it's worth it. I thought so.

Speaker 3: 37:59

Yep. That was like a non you didn't tell us anything, nothing burger.

Speaker 5: 38:09

I also said to new movie, like I don't want to go too much into it and spoil something for somebody it's not like a 35 year old movie.

Speaker 4: 38:16

Isn't as good as the first one.

Speaker 5: 38:19

Um, time will tell on that, but I was surprising, I suppose,

Speaker 3: 38:23

Order number three, they've already ordered a part three. Did you know that?

Speaker 5: 38:27

I do because it is called legacy and it does tie into the first it's more of a cycle. I mean, I guess it is a sequel characters

Speaker 3: 38:35

From the first movie come to this one.

Speaker 5: 38:37

Yes. At the

Speaker 3: 38:38

Very, very, I'm just trying to figure it out.

Speaker 5: 38:43

Kind of figured it out when we were talking about it and I won't spoil it for people

Speaker 3: 38:47

It's not in the trailer or anything. No, no. It's Google girls. You can assume that the main character is the daughter of one of the witches from right? Yeah. That's the tie-in. Oh,

Speaker 5: 39:02

And, and like I said, it was nice because, um, they, you know, it doesn't fall beat for beat, like maybe for 15 minutes, like I said, beat for beat and then it's its own thing. So it doesn't fall into the same tropes as the first movie, after a while. Um, you know, I'm not a teenage girl anymore, so I don't know if this is true to the experience, but yeah,

Speaker 3: 39:20

One at one point you said anymore, he's gone through the whole he's fully, he's gone through his whole thing. He's what do they call that? You've been transformed. He's not, he's already done. He's done. Um, his name. Didn't used to be David, but you know, we've been friends. It'll be on the VH1 special though. I care about David's life. Okay. Let's see. Um, Adam, you really didn't want didn't tune into anything in the busy guy, huh? Huh?

Speaker 6: 39:46

No, I, I saw some stuff. Uh, I watched an old Australian horror movie called Patrick, which is a variant inventive movie for the lack of special effects they had back then that everything had to be practical in the movie is basically about a man who's like an invalid and maybe brain dead that has the ability to manipulate his environment. So maybe

Speaker 3: 40:14

He's like, it's a second killer, right? Yeah,

Speaker 6: 40:16

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I think that was interesting worth watching, but uh, in keeping with a good feeling type movies, uh, thanks to, uh, Dave, I saw happy, happy joy, joy, which is documentary about rent and stamping and its creation and stuff. And I thought

Speaker 5: 40:36

That's actually a good feel-good movie until the last 15.

Speaker 6: 40:39

Yeah. So

Speaker 3: 40:42

David, you know what though? The look on[inaudible]

Speaker 5: 40:48

Will know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3: 40:50

Oh no. I just thought like, cause Dave sent, Nick are now, sorry. Dave sent Adam, not Nick. They've sent Adam a device. This device is locked in to all this stuff. So one of those cable boxes that has all the channels for it. No, it's a Roku thing. It's like a, you know, a thing to play apps and TV stuff. And so is that the X? All right. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Anyway. So

Speaker 6: 41:25

Because it had happy and another happy and a joy and another joy that, uh, it would be a feel good experience. And for the most part it was. But so

Speaker 3: 41:33

Dave, you're worried that you don't want people to know your side hustle of selling the sex toys. We can't, you can't bring that up on the, on the show. When I did on the links page, the special offer this week folks 20% off. Uh, let's see, oh, what did I watch? Do you guys ever watch that show ugly Americans where the social worker is trying to integrate like a bunch of monsters into regular society? A drunk wizard is like a coworker and it's like office style stuff. That's pretty cool. Um, he like has an affair with a demon. Who's like turns out to be like the devil's daughter. And he had to go down to hell and have like an awkward dinner with him. He was going down on this really walk escalator and the hell. Like, they get really expensive when he says like, we're all trying to get along. And then everybody dinner like stops and looks at him like who's this guy? Um, he was pretty good. And his roommates, like a zombie that keeps trying to fight the urge to eat them in the middle of the night. Right? Like at one point he wrote at one point he gives them rueful in, I mean, until the zombie roommate has to call his like AA sponsor, it'd be like, dude, I'm staring at my roommate. I really want to eat his brain. And then the guy on the other line, he's like, he's like, what are you doing? Are you getting, are you getting like, excited about what I'm telling you? Like, it's pretty good. It's really funny. Um, I believe Americans only two seats like Lily white, because he's like the whitest character in the world. Oh, I forget what his name is. It's like mark or Steve or thought it's pretty, pretty plain. But um, I thought it was going to be watched that on a it's on the CBS, all access has a bunch of the old comedy central stuff and all the Reno 9 1, 1 is the old Reno, nine 11. So I beat with some Butthead. Uh, oh, the other thing I watched was Mondo season two, just dropped Mandalorian season two, just dropped. It's got one. I'm not spoiling it. I'm just going to say this, like the Mandalorian adventures spoil it. I'm just going, I'm not going to spoil it. But the Mandalorian, I think, I think that, um, John Farborough who created it does most of the writing pops in every once in a while to do like the season openers and the closers. And it's like overseeing the whole arc of the star wars Mandalorian series on Disney. Plus he must've watched westerns TV shows like Gunsmoke essentially. And I was trying to write this with Dave a few years ago. We're trying to write like an outer space podcast, you know, like a fictional podcast, but it was going to be like a marshal in outer space. Like essentially that's what the Mandalorian is doing. Like he does a town with a problem. He's got to solve that problem. And then he also has like his other story going on in the background, but it's like a town has a problem. He goes to the town, solves the problem moves on to the next town. It's like it is every week. Yeah. One thing that's making me mad is like, as a streamer, they're not doing the binge watch thing where they're releasing all the episodes they make. You literally stay. Yeah. I'm sorry. But I'm kind of agreeing with that because it stretches out

Speaker 5: 44:31

The suspense of a show. I agree. It makes me more like people, they just did that with the boys and it got a lot of backlash, but he's like, um, you know, Hey, this is how TV was seven years ago. Deal with it.

Speaker 3: 44:42

Yeah. What, so you like that? You like that model where they they're just giving you breadcrumbs you, like, you don't want all the, give me everything. Now, let me consume it on my own.

Speaker 4: 44:51

I tend to feel like I get more into it. If I have to watch it week by week or if I do it within like eight hours and I'm just done. And a week later I'm like, oh, what, what show did I watch again?

Speaker 3: 45:03

Now that I think about it. That's our model too. We want everybody to listen and watch it.

Speaker 6: 45:10

The old ones in binge. If, if you're behind the times you can Benj, like, let's say you have 10 frozen cheeseburgers. Do you put them all in the microwave at once and consume all of them? Or do you, you know, you eat one a day. I feel pretty

Speaker 4: 45:23

Sick after that. Yeah.

Speaker 5: 45:27

Although I know I want to tie something. John just said, even though we're way past Sean Connery, just to slip in another movie, John said air or Marshall and space and Sean Connery, wasn't air Marshall or Marshall and space.

Speaker 4: 45:40

We'll be out great movie by the way. Yeah. Great movie or something.

Speaker 5: 45:47

Well, he was going around like killing space hookers. Like, no, It was like a crazy space serial killer,

Speaker 4: 45:57

But it was based on Western style, Western stuff too. Wasn't it? I think so.

Speaker 5: 46:03

It was basically like, I think he called it like high noon in space or something like that.

Speaker 3: 46:08

Well, we could be here all night talking about Sean Connery, but we hope you felt good while you listened or watch this episode. We'll be back next week with another feel-good movie. We're actually kicking it to our boy AA. Adam, what is our selection for next? Week's feel good movie.

Speaker 6: 46:24

We're going to be watching a Tyco RTT movie who brought you some pretty amazing things. A Thor Ragnar rock. Uh, he brought us, uh, um, other films.[inaudible]

Speaker 3: 46:45

Told them what to watch for next week.

Speaker 4: 46:49

I could have ruined it for you. I'm sorry. I don't know.

Speaker 3: 46:51

Is it called hunt for the Wilder based or hunt for the Wilder peak? What is the name? What is the name?

Speaker 6: 46:56

Older people. Not hundreds. No. It's about a, you know, a troubled kid that has had gets a bond with his, like his stepdad and, and they get lost in the Bush together and it's a really sweet movie. It has so many good, good feels.

Speaker 3: 47:14

It's the kid from Deadpool too. They get to ask the fireball powers that we'll do

Speaker 4: 47:20

Adam. Good pick. I, I, I, I have no idea what I've heard. It's great. So I can't wait to watch it actually. That's really good. Big

Speaker 6: 47:30

Go into it. Not really knowing what to expect. I didn't know what to expect. Somebody just told me to watch it and I watched it and I couldn't wait to show it to someone else. And I watched it with someone else and then watching it with someone else. And now I'm going to watch it again.

Speaker 4: 47:46

I'm excited to watch him. Nick, take us out. Yo, everything got real. It was good show. I can't wait to watch a life of the Willdabeast next week. Uh, stuff got real late in that title. I'm sorry. Life for the wilderness. This other wild.

Speaker 6: 48:14

Nice.