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March 13, 2024 Johnny Spoiler and Jordan Savage. Season 63 Episode 3
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Remember that time you stumbled upon an old VHS of 'Deathstalker' and felt like you'd uncovered a cinematic treasure trove? That's the vibe we're channeling on Binge-Watchers Podcast as I, Johnny Spoiler, and the ever-eclectic Jordan Savage, throw back to the 80s with cult classics and their modern revivals. Our journey through the peculiar world of 90s horror sequels will have you in stitches as we tackle everything from certain parodies to the 'Wishmaster' series, and even a personal anecdote about my dry eye saga that somehow ties into our filmic escapades.

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Strap in for a ride that's more twisty than a drive-thru lane, as we rant about fast food chains and their societal impact, all while dishing out our latest movie reviews. We're waxing nostalgic over Neil Gaiman's 'American Gods' and debating the lineage of genies, before taking a sharp left into the realm of our drive-thru misadventures. We've got the inside scoop on the Netflix docuseries that's got everyone talking, and we're dishing out our thoughts on 'Dune 2' and 'Shogun' with the fervor of a critic who's just downed a red drink with a side of blue.

Capping off this feast of thought, we get candid about the secret third topic we never broach on-air, while giving you an earful of our Taco Bell spending habits and the cultural significance of a Burger King wedding chapel. It's not all about the deep-fried goodness though; we've got reflections on podcast editing, audience reactions, and the strange intersections of fast food with society. So, join us for a session that's as relatable as it is off-beat – your new go-to for movie madness and a generous side of cultural commentary.

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Speaker 1:

You've stumbled into a podcast. We like to call it a show to set ourselves outside of podcasts, but of course, technically, if you want to get technical, that's what it is. Anyway, you've stumbled it in the binge watchers podcast. I'm Johnny spoiler. I Happen to spoil movies that I love. You got to deal with it. Join as always by the scream Queen herself, jordan Savage, who's so savage she can review a movie without having seen it. Don't ask me how. Just tune in and find out. That's the show. That's what we do. That's what we do.

Speaker 2:

Crack open a cold box of wine or pour something cold on ice, because it's the binge watchers podcast.

Speaker 1:

Home video headlines. What's going on with TV and movies. Outside of the movie of the week that we're about to drop on y'all, let's see there's this fantasy movie called Death Stalker and it's from the 80s. It's like when Italy was making a bunch of Sword and sandal, you know, conan, the barbarian style epic movies. I do like Death Stalker. I think I've seen Death Stalker 2, not sure if I've seen 3. You can't really find these movies anymore. So somebody, somebody probably has like a work print or like VHS copy that they like like. You know, like a pirated copies, probably floating around on on YouTube or something, but or the internet movie archives, I don't know. I like Death Stalker. The first one actually is getting, like I think it's getting a blue. It either has a DVD release or it's getting one anyway. But, um, the filmmakers behind horror movies like the void and PG psycho Gorman, which are very specific style be moved, horror movies like Very ciaslit core movies out of a group in Canada. They're gonna be doing the new Death Stalker. So I'm pretty, pretty jazzed about it, because the void is pretty scary and has like Like basically a portal of hell gets opened up in a hospital in the void and it's freaking awesome. So, and they do like old-school, you know, cosmetic monster makeup effects. Pg psycho Gorman is like If the Power Rangers villain was the main character, like so you're fall, you're following Like some kind of intergalactic monster warlord. His name is psycho Gorm. Well, his nickname is psycho Gorman, but over the course of the movie he tags along with like there's a brother and sister, but the sister has like kind of like her own little bit of bloodlust, so she's, she's like definitely there for like the outrageous stuff that he wants to do. She's like all there for it, right, but her and her brother play like some kind of game. So they're trying to still play their game. But now, with this intergalactic monster who has real powers to make things happen, like at one point they turn a police officer into like an undead puppet zombie that follows him around and there's no way to explain this movie except to say you know, if you know what Power Rangers is, you know it's teenagers with superpowers that fight monsters that grow to incredible sizes. So this movie is just kind of like what if there was an extremes? What if you just saw it from the point of view of one of the monsters? What are their goals, wants and desires that, and then you know, and then if you had that, if you wanted to take, like you know, a Children's adventure story, but then it's R rated, like you mix it in there and it's just kind of like an acid trip of like after school specials from like the 90s Put together somehow with like a Power Rangers plot that's the best I can describe it. It's it's a standalone movie, like it sounds awesome. We've never officially reviewed it on the show, but ages ago when it came out, we all watched it and and like what's funny is like there's a stack of movies that Jordan missed because he's a late bloomer to the binge watch, came to this kidding, she Started in like season 50 and we're on like season 63. How do the seasons break down? Every month is a new season, so that's why it's an outrageous amount. Like yes, we should be on like season five before it's normal time, but it's like no, there's four episodes a month and so we count a season every month. And yeah, so just because, like she was on the team later, she's a newer recruit, so to speak, in the movie world with us. We're a team member. I don't know what you want to call it. Oh, she's a host, anyway, and that's one of the ones in near miss, you know what I mean. Like I think, literally we were watching that maybe Six months before Jordan got on the microphone, maybe, but it's an insane movie anyway. So so, anyway, yeah, the, this group of filmmakers, they're gonna have no problem Making a death soccer movie, like they've already kind of done it, you know. So, anyway, bit of sad news, kind of back up the train a little bit. I know we're all getting excited already. It's a pretty fun episode so far. Right out of the gate, right off the jump, however, the creator of Dragon Ball is dead, a Kira Toriyama. So what's Dragon Ball? It's a manga series that got adapted into an anime series, which then had sequels. It's like Dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z, are contained within the manga, has like there's like 500 and 19 chapters or 40 or so volumes of the comic book, which is called a manga, and and because they're like, they're like graphic novels, right, but there's like serious graphic novels, right. So, jet, you know, japanese Artwork in their comic books are not called comics, are called manga, right, that's their word, whatever. And but then, you know, dragon Ball becomes a TV show. What is it about? It's a kid with a monkey tail. It's kind of loosely based on. Journey into the West was his Chinese mythology. There is a monkey king in the Chinese story and the escort to a Buddhist monk and has to defend the Buddhist monk from a series of like demons and gods or whatever. And the monkey king, sun Wukong, is gonna be like a god at some point or whatever, or he he's like the gesture of the gods, he like defies them, right. Whatever, it's like a demigod story, right. But in the Dragon Ball version it's like this kid, goku Doesn't know he's from like a race of aliens called the Saiyans you find that out later and like the second part of the story, dragon Ball Z. But in Dragon Ball he's the kid with like Extraordinary martial arts skills and like no social skills and then goes on adventures, right. And Then Dragon Ball Z is like oh, you're an alien dude, so you're like part of an alien race of warriors who are like Kind of like. They go around from planet to planet like Clearing planets for people that buy entire planets. I don't know, because they're like Intentioned servants to another alien who becomes one of the main villains in the series, in Dragon Ball Z and there was like some spin-offs. There's like a direct to television sequel, dragon Ball GT, which is like not canon. And then there's Dragon Ball Super, which just happened again. We're talking about like hundreds of episodes, 13 movies, tv specials. So clearly, like in the pantheon of pop culture, long story short is, this dude is pretty impressive. He's like one of those artists where you just like when they die, you just feel like, oh, a little bit of magic is gone from the world. I mean, he also did comp like art for the popular video games Chrono Trigger and Dragon Quest, which is a series of video games, rpg stuff, anyway. That's a pretty long-winded summary, but I think it's. I think I said a fair enough about him anyway. Um, great artist will be missed. But everybody good. If you, hey, if you have nothing but months of time to kill, go watch Dragon Ball. We're gonna take months to watch. You know what I mean. Like you could be crushing 10 episodes a day and we'll see you six months from now. There's so much content and Dragon Ball now it's really hard, like it's even hard. What did it take me four minutes to summarize the whole series? Because there's, you got me hyped though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like I didn't go into the side quests, or like the other characters or the power levels or how the martial art, like I didn't you know.

Speaker 1:

I mean like anyway, there's another movie coming out called cocaine werewolf. All right, leaving the kids stories aside, we're leaving the anime world, we're going into it. Well, actually you could probably name an anime for grown-ups called cocaine were rough. Now We've been probably make a really cool Cartoon, but it's not. It's not an anime, it's a. There was this movie Elizabeth Banks made, called cocaine bear. Which is loosely based on our true story about a bear that accidentally eats cocaine and goes on a rampage and of course the movies exaggerated. But it was pretty funny and when it came out people liked it's like a B movie, right. And Someone then decided oh, let's make a parody, we'll make cocaine shark. Apparently, the geniuses behind cocaine shark are now going to expand into werewolf territory with cocaine werewolf. All I can say is Jordan had mentioned. Sometimes you can do well with rubber mask monsters. I've seen the poster for cocaine werewolf.

Speaker 2:

I've still.

Speaker 1:

I've seen a you know a still shot that they took out of. Rip from the video. It's clearly a rubber mask. I don't think the werewolf's mouth moves if you're trying to. But listen, it's an alien looking where, like the werewolf looks nuts, so so I kind of Keep that on your order. He wants to watch cocaine werewolf and there's nothing I can do about it.

Speaker 2:

You know it's funny. I saw cocaine sharks the other day because, you know, I was reading this book about great white sharks and I was just trying to watch some more shark related content and that was one of the movies suggested, so I was gonna look at your shark.

Speaker 1:

You're reading a shark book. I know I actually do know that because of your tiktoks.

Speaker 2:

I did anyway.

Speaker 1:

Jordan's branching out of the content creator. She's leaving the podcast, putting it behind her. She's going off on book talk Because Paris Hilton loves her tiktoks. Jordan is now too cool for school and will be leaving the show behind. So not true in the dust. In the dust. Anyways, cocaine shark looked interesting, so yeah, no, yeah well, I don't know. I mean I don't know, I Don't know either, but because they got to where with status again, like I mean, we kind of hardly established that there's like you don't know. I'm really not a film snob because I grew up on what people could argue are the worst movies and so I'm kind of warped in the other sense that like totally a lot of things get around my filters because of all these trashy movies.

Speaker 2:

Back when we watched Pride and Prejudice and zombies, I was like we should do everything. Zombies. So everything and zombies and so maybe this is the the cocaine Insert animal here, or insert, you know yeah, reach her here, it's gonna be.

Speaker 1:

It's a whole sub genre now they're gonna. Yeah, we'll get 12 sequels related to drug Raged in. Rage induced animals will get there, right, yeah, yep Said a plan of the apes will be like planet of the cocaine apes. That's on terrifying. Yeah, that would actually be scary if an ape got into a handful of, like some drugs I gave it rage abilities, that would be kind of that would be scary. You're right, cocaine tiger That'd be. That's an easy one. You know the Lord's over there in the jungle are fighting over drugs. That tiger could easily get into it. Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, let's see what else is going on. We watched the movie this week. It's called wishmaster 2. Evil never dies. The jing gets set free again, he goes to prison for whatever reason and he tries to snatch enough souls to kick off the apocalypse. I've made a mistake in my notes. I wrote I had written get off the apocalypse. That's a different movie, that's a different cut of the film. You know, that's the. That's a whole different. That's a whole different movie. Yeah, what was I thinking about when I was typing these notes? Who knows?

Speaker 2:

we'll never know, we'll never know you were probably watching the scene when the Priest and her See. Sorry.

Speaker 1:

Anyways, I got some stats for us, so so since you open that can of worms before Jordan even delivers a savage that? I will just point out that the movie takes place in eastern mythology or Middle Eastern, persian gods and mythology, and they talk about a horror Mazda holding, keeping everything in check, being the opposite of the gin which is like in this version, is only evil. I Mean in real mythology it's like it's kind of like a gray area, like they can do good and bad just based on how they're who you Abuse their abilities. But Then this movie quickly mixes it with Christianity and so the opposing forces are Jesus and his buddies. I'm like, okay, we're mixing. When you start to mix like myth, like religion versus religion, and it's not even the same line in chemistry or whatever, you're just like we're starting to break the rules. You know, yeah, anyway, in the first one they had like a temple sorcerer that was still within, like you know, thousand Arabian nights with like Aladdin and everybody are sin bad and that in that whole mythology or the legends. So it kind of fit, you know. But now it's like, oh yeah, brother Gabriel or brother Gabe or whatever his name is in this movie.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Oh brother, greg Is gonna crack open a cold one and then take on, you know, an evil genie. Actually, no, he's gonna take the sacramental wine. Then go fight the evil genie with his ex-girlfriend who's who's a professional thief. We'll get into that, we will get into that. We will get into that, we will get into it but first some savage stats.

Speaker 2:

There's some fun ones today. So Andrew diva, who plays a gin and human form in this film, in In the first wishmaster film and in this one he just doesn't blink at all when his eyes are visible, which is a lot because he's one of the main characters. There's even scenes where his eyes are visible for like two to three minutes and I, because I was like he looked scary, but then I have a hard time blinking like I have eye drops, because my eyes Dory eyes are so dry, I don't blink enough.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean part of it could be contact lenses. But oh, my god story, my life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, my friends are always chiming in on my socials like you didn't blink once in this video.

Speaker 2:

He looks on him, sean purpose right, because he is playing a villain in this movie.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, he's totally work in the.

Speaker 2:

He like kind of has that like buggin Thing about him. I just didn't.

Speaker 1:

I just thought he had like had a menacing face and then yeah, like he just throws into that look, like he developed that look and he just stuck. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I was like, oh, he actually just does it and it's a part, you know, it plays a part in why he looks so menacing. But yeah, he just like doesn't blink in the entire movies. So at least the first two. So I thought this one was Awesome just because I love him from the Lost Boys, but after Corey Hyam made an uncredited appearance.

Speaker 1:

No, hey, what are?

Speaker 2:

you talking about Corey? Hey, I'm sorry. I think I did a little dyslexia there. So, corey, and made an An uncredited appearance. Sorry, but in which master to? Yeah, this is a museum scene.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right.

Speaker 2:

But that's what, so I don't know. Back checkmate.

Speaker 1:

Go back and look for him, because I don't know yeah, says that it might be even the burglar.

Speaker 2:

Maybe maybe it's one of the burglars that just has a mask, because I don't think it is Eric, you know who plays the boyfriend. But yeah. Um, that's, that's why I'm the UP says so. We'll backtrack it, I guess. Stay tuned.

Speaker 1:

That sounds like a Wikipedia fact, ported like Corey Haymes, and which master to that would. That's a mindblower to me. I. I don't know, I didn't notice Otherwise I would have liked that. Would have mentioned that for sure.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, no it.

Speaker 1:

He's not the guy who plays Eric, so he's probably makes an Uncredited appearance in the beginning, so we'll have to find out a pair of Spoiler alert once you returns the stolen items, to try to purify her own soul, to take on the genie, the professional thief whose name is like Megara or no, morgana, potentially named after Morgana Lefe, because Morgana Lefe is, we know, is an evil sorceress. So, anyway, morgana the thief drops the stolen painting back in the museum and at that time it's like a gallery opening, so people are walking around. I wonder if he's in the crowd.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we'll have to look, because apparently Holly Fields was his girlfriend at the time, so she did, he did as like a favor to her, so we'll have to play it back.

Speaker 1:

Oh wait, oh, I'm playing Morgana, right, correct? Yeah, so don't. And there's the casino setup where there's a bunch of people. I, I Love Corey Haymes. So for the fact that one of the quarries, you to last boys is my favorite course. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean that if Corey Haymes in this movie, the movie just got better, but we don't know, unconfirmed. Anyway, moving on, what do we got?

Speaker 2:

But it says in the burglar, as a burglar, in the museum scene. So there might have been more than one, more than just a few of them.

Speaker 1:

There's like three, right yeah?

Speaker 2:

That's what I thought.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I missed the camera away, so I did put his name above the poster. You get a little.

Speaker 2:

Could play a role of why it did get a little bit of a cult following. But also same with this stat is that one of the locations in the Lincoln Heights jail building is actually used in a lot of other movies, one of them being the basement of the old jail in the nightmare on a nightmare on Elm Street 1984. So yeah, there you go. There's in, there's stats for it. There you go oh.

Speaker 1:

That was quick, All right I.

Speaker 2:

Got a quote, but it's a little messy and I'm like a plot hole and I'm like it might be a little deep to go down.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

alert.

Speaker 1:

No, just kidding. Actually, he says several times, at least five times in every single movie. Well, at least the first two. I'm immortal Gosh.

Speaker 2:

I would say, the favorite bit I mean other than Gregory and Morgana, you know, get a little handsy on the couch would be obviously the casino. You know the casinos kind of going wild, and it's so that of course.

Speaker 1:

So you like the buffet of death, like as many people as we can take out in a single? I mean, it just makes sense, right it's?

Speaker 2:

absolute carnage. He's trying to get all of his souls, which he needs to get a thousand before yeah a thousand and one.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad this movie told us how much he had in his little soul bucket, that's all right, so I got about 802. I feel like, oh man, he's gonna get 200 more. Like where's it going?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know what you can get all the souls you go to casino and you're exactly if you're like okay, so you know, if you could go collect a bunch of souls and people who are willing to make a wish with the devil, and that wasn't bad.

Speaker 1:

That's what the Yardikoff or yogi or whatever. The guy's name is, yogurt or whatever his buddy is from, well, gary or whatever who breaks out of the jail with him. But Anyway, the jail's kind of cool. I mean it's kind of funny that he gets booked in, and so, anyway, the only reason you want to know why anybody knows about the wishmaster movies, iconic for one scene, and it's not even in the first one, it's in this one, because the one guy wishes that his lawyer would go f himself, and then the lawyer they. Bent the pieces, actually pump himself in that scene. So like right after the lawyer says, oh dude, we made a mistake and you're gonna get off, and then the lawyer gets all twisted up and dead and so the guy's stuck in jail. Anyway, that's why people know about this movie, because that's the thing that gets turned into the gift. That's the scene that everybody talks about. So they haven't forgotten about wishmaster because of the prison lawyer scene.

Speaker 2:

I should have known that was coming too, especially in the beginning, when Eric makes a wish that he was never been born and he like goes backwards in time and pretty much Turns into a baby and like reverse live Himself. In a sense I should have known.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the general really gets off when people say wishes that he knows are gonna end in horrible, tragic pain.

Speaker 2:

He goes okay, so great.

Speaker 1:

Like his eyes light up, like you said at one point, when, right before the prison guard accidentally makes a Makes, a wish, did you see the gin turn to the camera like, hey guys, do you just wish let's see what's about to happen? You notice that, like he uh-huh at one point, he turns the camera. Yeah, he left it in like a nod, like you guys know what's coming, you know anyway.

Speaker 2:

So I mean I just I've already said my favorite bits without like officially declaring them, so yeah, I mean, I thought it was pretty cool when you know there's card counter machines that are just like sending out freaking cards, just like karate chop at people.

Speaker 1:

All right, so there's this weird trend in the 90s of, like ninja star deaths, so like in hellraiser 3, it's actual CDs, right, like when they used to they were burning music on the on the discs, like DVD, but they were seed compact discs, right. So those are flying through the air cutting people in that movie and in this, like you said, the car, the poker game cards yeah, and the roulette balls are shooting everybody.

Speaker 2:

Yep, the roulette balls like a thing.

Speaker 1:

It's like a thing in the 90s horror movies this is like 99, so we're almost in 2000 really crappy video effects. Clearly they only had one or two gin costumes because it's like it's a solid piece rubber suit or whatever, or or. Detailed yeah or polyester suit or something I don't know, because, like in the first movie, it looks like it's made out of four or five pieces and it's kind of fleshy looking and covered in slime. And this one I Mean like when he gets sucked into the Jewel. This time it's just like a superimposed video picture of his face and then they cropped it down and it gets sucked in With computer effects into the jewel, rather than it's like oh man, they didn't really want to blow up the costume. I'm like, oh, maybe they only had, like water tubes, rubber suits. You know what I mean. The whole movie like it is a. Directive video. I don't know where it aired being. It said like it went straight, or maybe just VHS. Maybe you're like VHS and DVD releases, maybe just what right to you know the video store shelves, or something.

Speaker 2:

Well, it makes sense to me. I think about, like how movies, a lot of movies that we watched when we were you know that age back then you'd see them on whatever channel had made them. Or you know, and this, there's some, there's some you know Parts of the script, or I was like I don't know what that was that appropriate for 90s television. I know it was different back then. You know things could be said a lot more differently than than they are now. But I'll make, there's no way that you would see this, like on a sci-fi channel or something back in the 90s, you know. Well, it's possible, you know, but the direct to video almost makes sense, just because there is a little bit of Some risque language in it.

Speaker 1:

So but yeah, so there's two more sequels that I don't think anybody talks about. But Christianity's war on the gin continues like actually he fights angels, like in the later sequels, but it's a different actor that plays the, the genie, the gin, yeah, so that's. The other weird thing is like we I mean we looked into the trivia on the first one and we got the impression that, like I Don't know, the actor might have been available but the scripts were maybe awful. I mean, this one's barely holding on. I don't this one made enough money to justify the next two. But um Bokeen Woodbine makes an appearance in this movie. He plays the casino manager, so, and he brings a lot of energy to all this stuff that he does. So you know again, like could have been a throwaway part, but because a decent, like energetic actor is playing the casino manager, it's a standout in this movie. Who else is it? Who else stands out in this movie? Is Russian tag along or whatever? Who has second thoughts? He's like oh, I screwed up, I shouldn't have helped. The genie who, well, I mean that? Well, jordan's all hot for steamy, steamy Brother Greg, or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was like okay, all right.

Speaker 1:

So clearly he was a bad boy, right, because he tried to turn his life around. It ends up taking the cloth and his girlfriend is still a professional thief, so yes, you know more. He's probably going down the same road right and then, like, somehow, you know, had a little break from her and ended up being a I don't know cardinal Well, not cardinal, because that's like a super, that's like like a lieutenant level, I Don't know man. It cuz oh, it looks like orthodox right, because it doesn't look like a Catholic Church that they go to I don't know movie churches, especially in like a direct-to-video sequel. It's just like it looks like a hodgepodge of like three different kinds of churches. Fake movie church like, and this guy you know is the Reverend or whatever Dang you know Like. Well, one of those sequels is called the prophecy fulfilled. So at some point you think the Jin's gonna like Actually get his objective. What is he like? Three thousand years old and never gets to accomplish his mission or whatever. Gosh, unfortunately, he's like at this point he's developing a sense of humor, right, he's going like a Freddy Krueger root with his monster attitude. So you're in part two. You're starting to like, maybe like the gin too much, right, and he's the monster, you know I mean. But you're like, oh man, I kind of want, kind of, you know, you kind of like, you're kind of hoping for, I guess, because you just want that blood, blood lust in a horror movie. You're like I kind of want the apocalypse to happen, at least in this movie. I Just made Jordan watch this because I got her through the first one, and then I'm like, but you know, she's gonna see that they start to fall off the map.

Speaker 2:

I needed it in my life. I was like cool, I need something that's a little silly, a little ridiculous, and it was perfect. So for what I needed it to be, so what are the fans?

Speaker 1:

They're watching Jordan's book. Reviews on tick tock. We didn't rate it. Oh wait, sorry, I got it back up. Segment four back it up. You're right, we have a rating system that's unique to the. I just wanted to hear about tick tock. See, I'm already getting man, I got too excited to rub to. Whatever mess with you again. Yeah, we have a rating thing on the show. We do binge now, binge later, binge never. Basically, then's now, get at the top of your list. Whatever you're watching, binge later, get around to it, but it doesn't have to go number one, you know, before you watch something else, clear your schedule for and binge never. Well, we're talking about rathing and teasing and just a good old-fashioned fun. Jordan held fast that there is no such thing as binge never, because you will remember a bad movie and maybe go back to watch it or tell somebody about it and I know they'll watch it. But then she did have to do a binge never recently, so you never know. It's a palette cleanser folks. Sometimes you just can't go back to the movies. Where does, uh, where does a wishmaster? Yeah, oh, I forgot to mention during the favorite bits that, like he also says, evil never die. He says the title at one point. He says the title of the movie you know to another character.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, hmm, I was all that, though. You know, whatever they call that move when they bring up the title and like the script or something.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was called to, but it's kind of funny. It's like it's definitely a trope. It's definitely a thing that happens in movies.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is um, binge, a binge later for me. You know I loved it. I've been now ish. You know I was excited to watch it, just because, dang, you know life, it was a binge later. You know, you got to watch the first one first and then this one obviously does fall apart, like you mentioned. So, but no, I just Still has that like still fun 90s.

Speaker 1:

It's still entertaining. It's. It's still entertaining enough to yes, wow, okay, all right, um, wow. I was gonna say binge-letter, but it is technically a binge now, which means it's a higher rated movie than we've done recently, which is really funny. That's what it is. Don't have expectations. Don't have expectations, don't have any expectations. But that's what it's. The fun, it's the. That's what it is, man. It's the Movie. Magic baby. It's a stress reliever. That's what? Because it falls in the category of a movie that can make you calm down after, like, a bad day or a tense day at work, or like, you know, a fight with a loved one, or like just You're just stressed out. You just turn on Wishmaster 2 and watch an attorney have sex with himself. What you'll be like that you won't regret. Man, I did say the word cocaine several times. This was actually a PG episode until I said. Until I said, you know, watch somebody do themselves. But hey, I didn't wish it. Hey, to be fair, the brother in the prison, it wasn't my wish, okay, but you know, like, they always joke about attorneys, right? So it falls into that, like you know, making jokes about lawyers or whatever. Whatever, I've already explained that it's the iconic moment of the film, but I don't have to sell this film to anybody, right? No, I mean, honestly, it's a great scene, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Weird. You know it's coming and you're like, is this happening? And now I'm always going to remember that when I tell somebody to you know.

Speaker 1:

Although, to be fair, the lawyer was kind of a lame dude. They could have been a better looking dude or it could have been could have been much more intense. They did do a PG version of the scenario, to be actually, to be fair, most of the witches are not that grotesque, even though in their nature they are grotesque. What they asked for could be really blown up out of control. But for the most part the special effects are kind of reserved actually.

Speaker 2:

I would say so Especially for that special scenario.

Speaker 1:

Who knows what we would get today. It is a bummer that we don't ever get another Wishmaster with the original actor. That is a problem they can easily do like hey Wishmaster, what is it 30 years ago? 35?. Where are we at With the timeline, is it, let's see, 2019 to 99 would have been 10 years, right.

Speaker 2:

So if they go to, 2029,. It would be 20 years right 30 years, right, I don't know where I'm at. Somebody do the math on this.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, it could be like I guess what.

Speaker 2:

So, 30th anniversary, we got our new Wishmaster, or whatever, yeah, I would say it makes me reluctant to watch any of the other ones without him. So yeah, stay tuned to next week. Just kidding.

Speaker 1:

Which one?

Speaker 2:

Which one?

Speaker 1:

That sounds like you. Like a little bit of that, though. Those Star Cross lover unnatural slash inappropriate love affairs.

Speaker 2:

Totally, absolutely that, breaking all the rules.

Speaker 1:

So you know, I think that Jen falls in love in one of the movies, right? Does he fall in this?

Speaker 2:

Bring it on.

Speaker 1:

Let's watch it. He doesn't hook up with one of the angels who's fighting, but he does. I think he does start to fall in love with one of the jewel beholders or one of the.

Speaker 2:

What do you call it? An appraiser or something, or a collector?

Speaker 1:

The person he gets attached to is supposed to do the wishes. I don't know what they're, because you think they would be the wish. Do you think they would be the Wishmaster? No, they don't have a title right?

Speaker 2:

No, it's like whoever awoken the jewel.

Speaker 1:

What do you call that person?

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, if we're talking about other Genie movies and it is technically it's like the Genie and the Master, right If we're talking about other ones.

Speaker 1:

but then that's not who he is.

Speaker 2:

Because they are kind of shackled to the Wish right Until they make the wishes. So I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Except there's this. What is the name of this book? Dang it American Gods, where, like all the gods are real. And then the American gods are like media, like the internet, like these new gods appear and they're fighting, like all the Gods from Egypt and the Nordic gods, so like Odin and Thor, all those guys, and there's like a Demogod who's like the main character, who fits into like kind of like an in-between. But what was the point of my story? Oh, in that Jyns are like a sexually transmitted, like virus curse, almost you take the place of the next Genie, which that's kind of a cool angle. Like you become the next Genie that has to serve whoever has whatever the next wishes or whatever.

Speaker 2:

And I feel like I've seen other Genie stories like that right Like you, because then you're stuck in a lamp until, like, the next Master comes along, and then you get released if they make three wishes or whatever. So, yeah, it's an interesting.

Speaker 1:

So that's our 10 minute rating of Wishmaster 2. I think they know everything they need to know about Wishmaster. What are the fans doing? Well, not really sure. I'm not keeping up with what they're doing. Hopefully they're tuning in and listening to episodes of the Avengers Watchers Podcast. So it's funny to see some of their reactions to, like, our out of context clips. Yeah, like, because we're ripping clips, folks, and we're pulling them out of these long content episodes that have an entire stories. So if you're getting like the bookend, you're like what are you talking about? And then their reactions are kind of like, also from outer space. I feel like that reaction sometimes don't even match the clips, but anyway, that's what the fans are doing.

Speaker 2:

The Taco Bell rant was pretty funny.

Speaker 1:

The Taco Bell. Rant the Taco Bell rant when they're like, if you're going to talk about, Well, today, today we posted a clip about Talk to Her, which is a horror movie, and that we were talking about Google Trends and people should watch that movie. And then somebody thought I was talking about a different hand movie. So that's what you were talking about. But you said Taco Bell. Yeah, the Taco Bell thing is like. They're like offended that we said it would take you $60 to buy Taco Bell and people are like what Taco Bell are you going to Me and my friends, we've never used it. I'm like, oh, these are the poor bros, these are like the bros, you know what I mean? Like who don't have girlfriends, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Right, I'm like yo, you know what, just drop off. Drop an extra 20 bucks on your queen on some Taco Bell $50 worth of Taco Bell Okay.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't want to be a jackass, but it felt like the incels, which are involuntary celibate. I felt like the incels were the ones raising all the ruckus, and not any regular dudes who are just like going about their lives eating burritos. I felt like it was the ones who were crying while they're eating their burritos. I was like dude. I was like you know and I guess I'm coming from the perspective of like, maybe even an average family size Like if you have a rate, like if you're just trying to feed three or four people, you're going to be like damn, what the hell just happened. You know what I mean. Like yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm getting a large ball hall blast and a massive quesadilla with extra chicken and three tacos, and that's like still not enough. You know, that's just me. That's what I'm getting, so I can imagine with other family members, but anyways, sorry, taco Bell rant over.

Speaker 1:

The way to go, though, is to get the points in the apps, and this sounds like you got to be some like giant pig to download all the food apps, but actually, if you want to get those 90 prices like we're talking about 90s movies, let's talk about 90s fast food prices If you want to get a deal on your Big Mac or your freaking chicken nuggets, you've got to get the apps now, because they'll give away. They'll do like the giveaways you know, certain days of the week. The craziest thing was that Wendy's was going to test peak pricing, like like a rideshare app, but then, like it got, so it got so many people heated on the internet. They're like maybe we're not going to try this market and idea where we switch our prices based on how many people want Wendy's at any particular time, and it may have been blended in proportion. Who knows what Wendy's is actually going to do? Nobody really knows. But the story once the once, the things online, that's it.

Speaker 2:

That's the story, right, and let's keep fast food, fast, you know, like we don't need to be doing surcharges just because people are hungry.

Speaker 1:

So well, I mean, it's still good. Well, it's no longer economical, but it's still convenient, right.

Speaker 2:

Like you, like I said, I spent $60 on freaking talk about.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that ain't cheap, but in theory you still get through the line in 10 minutes, hopefully. I just love it. The worst is when they're like can you just pull your calls to the side and somebody will run out your bag to you Like, wait a minute? Here that's when you feel like the world is breaking down. You feel like wait a minute. The exchange is I pull up to a drive through, we go through the drive through, leave with our bag of food and the drive. But this is like I'm sorry, sir, you've ordered number six. We were only prepared for you to order number one through four. You know you don't have to be like pull aside. I think these complaints like people are like if anybody's listening and starving. They're like this fucking assholes are just complaining about drive through lines. Anyway, the world is up full of all kinds of stories. Folks, uh, that that would be a way to. If you want to sell your app. Like I order a big Mac and you give away a big Mac, that would be cool. I Get to eat and somebody else gets to eat, but I don't know if they're willing. I don't know if they anybody's done anything like that.

Speaker 2:

I just eat both big Macs. It sounds so good.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know what I will say, though. There we eat chemicals and, I'll just admit it, we love our chemicals. We have fillers, guys, and let me tell you, man, um, additive fillers, whatever else is there, I don't know. It's like when you, when you go to the store and it's not juice, it's just called like blue and red. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna go to jug of blue. Anyway, that's a huge rant and they're like, maybe like revealing too much of our food opinions. Um, yeah, if I live outside the United States, it might be nice to actually just eat what actually food tastes like. I have no idea what it tastes like. I only know what my chemical filler 17734568 Tastes like. And blue and red, red 40, red 40, baby. Actually, I heard red 40 was organic because it's made out of beetles interesting anyway. Hmm, this, this one's really gotten away for us at the end.

Speaker 2:

Oh well, I really did. Got away from us for sure, just, and I was just trying to plug in.

Speaker 1:

Well, really is too political for this show. We got to be careful. All right If you watch something else besides the movie of the week and you want to tell people about it. What is your staff pick? Do you have one?

Speaker 2:

Feel like I did watch a lot of stuff. Yeah, um, I did watch the program on Netflix. That was pretty interesting. It's another docu series that talks about the troubled teen industry industry. That was about five episodes. Check it out, get a little insight there. There's a couple of other shows up talk about the same industry. Did see Dune 2 and theaters and that was a really fun experience with like the best movies I've seen, I think ever, in theaters. So loved that. Um, yeah, rewatching some shows. It's on on max. What about you? Anything?

Speaker 1:

ripped open a new show gone. So there's like a what in the 80s, maybe late 70s, early 80s, I'm not sure. Definitely feels like 70s TV, like show gone. And oh man, richard Chamberlain, I think, is the name of the actor who was in the first show gone, but essentially an English sailor washes up in Japan and then gets caught up into like Kind of like a civil war between the five thumbs in Japan or whatever, during time when, like Japan's opened up its shores to like different trade routes or whatever, but it's like England's fighting with Spain in Portugal. At the same time the lords in Japan are fighting with each other and so they all pick allies in different sides or whatever. But it's definitely like a soap opera with Samurais. But the new one is like a drama. You get to see who the samurai lords are. You have a pretty interesting actor playing the new version of the English guy. They gets washed up there and there's actually close effects, like there's a couple of like character actors that just kind of like pop up like there was a, a couple of guys. I can't think of their names. I didn't plan to write it down. I'll just say this the new show gone is really good, it just got started. Take a look at it. It's. I'm like Hulu. You know Hulu, slash effects, slash whatever it is now. And what else did they do? I will. I watched a movie that I Watched the marvels actually which just seems like a. It seems like a episode of television. It didn't actually seem like a movie, just seemed like a movie Like one of the Marvel TV shows, like a longer version of that. Anyway, it's not as bad as people had said it what it is. I remember they gave it a lot of gripe. You know when it came out or whatever, but whatever, and I tend to watch like the same things over and over again. So I'm watching more older stuff. You know, like when I go off on these things where I'm like, oh, I'm watching LA law, you know what I mean. Probably, yeah, I Do things like that, like I'm going back through all of a sudden, you'd fold Elphi episodes right now. So good, yeah, oh, I was gonna mention earlier that, like Godzilla won an Oscar and I forgot to mention that, so that should have been up at the oh, but that's very tippy top of the episode. I didn't mention that Godzilla minus one won an Oscar for best visual effects, which is really interesting because they had a budget of like nothing and they made better special effects than these movies that have like $200 million budgets. So there's like a Reconfiguration or like let's go back to zero on these movies, like they're. You know, like another guy won for writing, I think, adapting the screenplay for American fiction. He won and he was like on the stage and I think he said something like let's make 20, $10 million movies or 15, you know, $4 million movies, instead of like one or two $250 movie, $1 movie, and so we could have like a bunch of more stories on the screen If you look at like like just being creative with their effects and their budget and Winning an Oscar for it and well deserved, because now you can say, like Godzilla won an Oscar, kind of funny.

Speaker 2:

That's pretty cool. That is cool. That's a headline.

Speaker 1:

Pretty good year, a pretty good year for the Oscars. I'm not gonna go into everything that happened. I just wanted to bring up the Godzilla thing. Um, yeah, besides our taco bell debate, we'll be back with more movie related podcasts. Unless you cancel us over our opinion on food apps, I don't know what's gonna happen. Um, wow. Anyway, if you own a cat, you should probably get that pretty litter telling you what later. Oh, let's talk about next week's movie. So every once in a while, we like to play this movie called movie roulette, where I just describe things to Jordan and she picks one based on the description yeah, it's been a while. Okay, you ready, ready, I'll do it for the audience too and they can try to figure it out. The stepdad is aware of Ptsd, blindness and werewolves maybe. Question mark. Third option psychiatrists have seen this movie and they say it depicts a true psychopath.

Speaker 2:

But there's no werewolves involved in number three.

Speaker 1:

There's no werewolves in that. However, there is a cat related movie. There's two cat people related movies on my list because I think they're warped. I know we're talking about Pretty Litter and we're trying to get the audience of you. If you're a cat owner, I have a thing about cat owners. Jordan's a cat owner. We have some mutual respect, but it's there's a line in the sand. There is.

Speaker 2:

There's a line in the cat litter, right in the Pretty Cat, so there's a cat people movie that also has an edible issue.

Speaker 1:

So Edypus Rex with cat mutants Okay, that's another option, okay, okay. Circus with a killer with no arms, question mark is another option. Well, the next one is just the title of this movie. It's also cat related, are we not cat? It's the name of that movie. That's option five, six, I don't know how many you worked he grew up six. Oh, he wanted to join the police academy, but he couldn't pass the psych evaluation. That's another option, that's the final option. So, okay, I've given you a litany of mysterious taglines.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm torn between three. Number three, which is one that psychologists have seen, and that kind of threw them for a loop, or I think I want to go with the circus killer with no arms, hot damn.

Speaker 1:

Hot damn, the one with the circus and the killer with no arms is a movie that's really intense by a filmmaker who only makes really weird shit, and this movie was not widely available but has suddenly become widely available. It's a palette cleanser, for sure, and also, I think somebody who has a weak will or a weak stomach may not be able to get to the podcast next week after watching this movie. We'll find out that's sent a movie called sent a sangry. Okay, let's do it. Buckle up, buckle up. I definitely think if the wrong person walks through the room while you're watching. If the wrong person walks into the room while you're watching this movie, judgments will be made. Okay, yeah, won't watch it while I'm on the track. Watch it in secret.

Speaker 2:

You got it.

Speaker 1:

And not in front of your pets, because I've heard that pets, especially cats, are very judgmental over their owners. That's what I've heard about, so I've heard on the streets. Can't confirm, but you know, not for the little kitty cat eyes, it's not for them.

Speaker 2:

I will shield them, protect them at all costs, and not that much.

Speaker 1:

So sincere Pet owners man. You know I could cut out the entire part about the Taco Bell, Because what have I said about this show? No religion, no politics, what else? What was the third thing? I think there was a third thing that we don't touch on. However, I'm too lazy of an editor. I'm not going to cut anything out because you know, what's funny is like, the things you think will offend people in a podcast aren't, and the things you think they'll like are not the things that they quote. And the things they quote you just go like if I was a cartoon character, just be question mark, question mark. You know they could just appear above red like old, old, old school. Yeah, the little bubbles. That's what they took away from that 45 minute conversation.

Speaker 2:

Okay, all right, I spend too much money on.

Speaker 1:

Taco Bell.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh man.

Speaker 1:

But, nothing about the movie or the opinions, or like the nothing, yeah, just like just that, just the just condescending about the amount of money spent talking about.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I'm going to do it again.

Speaker 1:

Come on, you richie. $60. 1% percenter, 1% burrito person. I'm not ordering from the cravings menu bitch.

Speaker 2:

I did see a talking about an actual combo. I saw talk about cantina this weekend, though.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you saw the bar that they own. Like how they like dang, I didn't, I didn't know how many they have with. Those were like it's like dude, I heard that taco the not Taco Bell, but another one there Burger King had a wedding chapel. Yeah, taco husband, to Holy crap. Well, you cutting edge stuff, folks. There's actually a movie called Demolition man where the only restaurant that survives in the restaurant restaurant wars Hello, apocalypse of the restaurant is Taco Bell. Yeah, it makes sense to me, but then that movie when they go there it's like an art gallery opening slash, like the plates that come out or not, like it's not Taco Bell anymore, it's like you know whatever the food has to remain the same.

Speaker 2:

But I remember the first time, really cool party or eating.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, interesting, that was also about a class war, so you know really kind of again what a weird episode Like had a lot of fun. We'll see what people think of a wishmaster. Evil never dies, yeah.

Binge Watchers Podcast Film Review
Discussion on Bizarre Movie Sequels
Discussion on Wishmaster Sequels and Ratings
Movie Review and Fast Food Rant
Drive-Thru Rants and Movie Picks
Taco Bell and Podcast Banter