Ever felt the urge to name a cockroach after an ex? Well, the San Antonio Zoo is one step ahead with its anti-Valentine's Day shenanigans, and we're all for this bizarre festivity. Alongside our witty guest Jordan, this episode frolics through the darkly comedic world of post-breakup rituals before taking an unexpected swerve into the less amusing health risks that our furry and not-so-furry companions can bring—yes, we're looking at you, cats and your bubonic plague ties. It's a rollercoaster of emotions and side-splitting commentary that'll have you reevaluating your pet-naming strategies.
If you're craving a fix of movie madness, saddle up for our eclectic cinema roundup. Imagine Nicolas Cage chasing thrills in a horn-themed thriller or the head-scratching Mandela Effect that has us questioning reality itself. We dissect 'White of the Eye' with its jarring jumps in narrative and unconventional love triangles, while also rating films with a system that cuts straight to the chase: Binge Now, Binge Later, or Binge Never. The silver screen never looked so bewildering—or entertaining—as it does with our no-filter reviews.
To cap it all off, we take a detour through the wilds of CGI landscapes, from cringe-worthy effects in TV adaptations to a nostalgic jaunt back to the 'Jurassic Park' era, which somehow still impresses. Throw in a dash of retro cartoon love with Ninja Turtles, a flick through the latest Netflix offerings, and a contemplative pause over whether Al Pacino can truly set the Valentine's mood, and you've got yourself a podcast episode that's as varied as Jordan's cat names. Tune in for some unapologetically honest pop culture banter that promises to tickle your funny bone and maybe, just maybe, make you view your cat with a tad more suspicion.
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Ever felt the urge to name a cockroach after an ex? Well, the San Antonio Zoo is one step ahead with its anti-Valentine's Day shenanigans, and we're all for this bizarre festivity. Alongside our witty guest Jordan, this episode frolics through the darkly comedic world of post-breakup rituals before taking an unexpected swerve into the less amusing health risks that our furry and not-so-furry companions can bring—yes, we're looking at you, cats and your bubonic plague ties. It's a rollercoaster of emotions and side-splitting commentary that'll have you reevaluating your pet-naming strategies.
If you're craving a fix of movie madness, saddle up for our eclectic cinema roundup. Imagine Nicolas Cage chasing thrills in a horn-themed thriller or the head-scratching Mandela Effect that has us questioning reality itself. We dissect 'White of the Eye' with its jarring jumps in narrative and unconventional love triangles, while also rating films with a system that cuts straight to the chase: Binge Now, Binge Later, or Binge Never. The silver screen never looked so bewildering—or entertaining—as it does with our no-filter reviews.
To cap it all off, we take a detour through the wilds of CGI landscapes, from cringe-worthy effects in TV adaptations to a nostalgic jaunt back to the 'Jurassic Park' era, which somehow still impresses. Throw in a dash of retro cartoon love with Ninja Turtles, a flick through the latest Netflix offerings, and a contemplative pause over whether Al Pacino can truly set the Valentine's mood, and you've got yourself a podcast episode that's as varied as Jordan's cat names. Tune in for some unapologetically honest pop culture banter that promises to tickle your funny bone and maybe, just maybe, make you view your cat with a tad more suspicion.
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You have stumbled into a show that they like to call a podcast because they got to call it something. It's been watchers podcast with yours truly, johnny. Spoiler. I only spoil the movies that I love. Join is always by the savage scream Queen herself. That's me they anointed as a screen cream, screen cream Scream.
Speaker 2:I can't say these words.
Speaker 1:It's hard. He sold seashells on the seashore is the name of Steve I just ruined like a perfectly good intro. I was gonna remind them about a story that I told before. Like I think I Podcast deliveries, a podcast newsletter service, or they like they'd like Send emails about podcasts and they had featured Jordan and they had dubbed her in quotes yes, scream Queen from Ben watchers podcast. This is why I was just what, I wasn't making it up. Somebody else gave her the title as well, so it's official. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I mean.
Speaker 1:Stumbling through what I was trying to explain. I don't know if that makes it better or worse, or even has the same value. Puncture at the end of that sentence, I don't know. Anyway, we're here and, like I was like oh, the timing of the dropping of this episode falls in line with the Love day, everybody's favorite crying a pillow holiday, then Valentine's. And I had read his story. First I didn't believe it, but then I tracked down the zoo. So supposedly there's a zoo that lets you name a cockroach after your ex and then they feed it to an animal on Valentine's Day. It's a zoo. And I was like, okay, but there's this story I saw like a handful of times on the internet. I was like, is this the internet, like you know, making fun of me pulling my chain? Like is this some BS? The click baiter? I looked at San Antonio zoo. Actually does it? I?
Speaker 2:Just love it, I love it. I think that it's a perfect way to like market the anti Valentine's Day, and I think it's incredible the fact that you can feel like a closure or what better way than the cockroach and I had just seen it come across my Instagram page, so I don't know if it's like a local, I guess.
Speaker 2:Non-profit organization that's doing it. But you can literally name a cat from a catch-and-release program that gets neutered, because that's what they do on catch no, no, and you can. You can, like sponsor a cat on Valentine's Day, and I think that's a great way to do it. I think that's a great way to do it.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no.
Speaker 2:I think you can. You can like sponsor a cat being neutered by the name of your ex. So I just thought that was so funny and I think it's hilarious.
Speaker 1:So somehow it's like spiritually or metaphorically, somehow it's like you're ex getting neutered or spate yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:So I just thought it was great you get a name or rescue that then goes to get neutered, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Man, Is it liable if I say all my exes are crazy? It's not. I would have to slander them by Name-dropping, right. Yeah, yeah, I was like I was like I have no one to neuter or spay, or I'm like I'm like they're all crazy. So if they're all crazy, it's like they're all normal. I mean like, uh, I Don't, yeah, have I ever dated anybody on the level? This is a very serious question.
Speaker 2:I definitely have a couple of cockroaches in my life, you know well, I think everybody's twisted.
Speaker 1:And you know I mean even you, jordan, own cats, it's sure even you own cats. Yeah, and that's a red flag, you know.
Speaker 1:You know yeah if you're, if you're just listening, I put my finger in the air to demonstrate what a red flag or a red alarm sounds like. Yep, anyway, I'm forget about worrying about STD's. Apparently got to worry about bubonic plague. If you're hanging out with cat owners, I had read in Oregon that there's a breakout of the bubonic plague for whatever reason, and they're attributing it to a cat Was named after somebody's ex at Steve over there, or Linda anyway. So it's really not the cat, which is funny because technically, I mean, we attributed what the bubonic plague the last time in the Middle Ages from Rodents, but it wasn't actually the rodents, was the things living on the rodents, fleas or whatever wild yeah, so hey, but I'll blame the cat.
Speaker 2:Why not? I mean, if we're deuterine cats and calling them after our exes, then I can definitely say that one's probably responsible for the bubonic plague.
Speaker 1:But you know, one of the cat has like a super cat name, like like spiffy or or Patchy, or, you know, like what's a cat name? Let's, come on. Is it a pure bread, tommy? Like what? Let's really get down. Let's, hey, let's not be prejudiced against rescue cats, but, um yeah, patchy Mcstuffins from the alleyway. There you go on a plague spreading and then is it sledding around town like how is it splitting, spreading the plague among the other cats.
Speaker 1:I guess, Horn it up and L8 the streets of LA, no Oregon, why don't I tell a what's a bit? Oh, portland, yeah, portland's out there. There you go.
Speaker 2:Don't be caught on people, patchy, keep Cover your little cat mouth with your own that's a.
Speaker 1:Thing anyway, I Just announced all of cat owners, all of them. We're all in a box now, yeah you're all in the bubonic leg Home video headlines. This is kind of interesting. Nicholas Cage might be playing a serial killer in this trippy horn movie called long legs. Hmm, I don't know if you've seen the very viral esque trailer that they dropped. This movie is very strange.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:No 824. They make a bunch of weird stuff. This looks like another weird one and I think it's a 24. I mean, I guess somebody could yell at me in the comments if I'm wrong, but it's one of those studios. It's either neon or 824 man. I guess I should have written that down. I wasn't gonna mention the studio, but anyway, I'm very cryptic. Trailers that they dropped on YouTube and it's very. You don't really know what's going on exactly, but, um, it has an interesting title. It looks like Satanic or Coldish or like. I mean, it'll get your true blood, true crime, blood pumping.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was trying to say true client, true crime fans, it'll get your blood pumping and it came out as true blood which which is a vampire show, the vampire show that I love so much yeah. I tried to say a whole sentence and only two words came out True blood.
Speaker 2:Not exactly what you were going for, but you know what? Still a name that I love True crime fan.
Speaker 1:That's going to be this whole episode. Like, the words that I'm trying to say are not coming out, other things are coming out.
Speaker 2:You stumbled into a podcast where we just stumble across. You know all the things.
Speaker 1:Nash words together all day. There's a suit spin off. So suits was a show on like USA Network about like a lawyer employing another guy who technically wasn't a lawyer, but he was like a legal eagle, so to speak, and I think that was the whole ruse of the show. Like the main character could get caught, like if they found out that he was providing the legal advice then we'd have missed trials left and right. But anyway, it's a drama. There is a law firm and there's a center of characters at the law firm or whatever are the other characters, but suits LA. So they're going to be making that. It's headed into production, which I just thought. Like Jordan knows I've been, I've been watching that LA law, that older show on Hulu. So I'm like, oh man, they're just like kind of in a way, redoing LA law, but it suits LA. There you go, all right.
Speaker 1:The next story is kind of a weird one. I was still trying to find more stories that were like you know, valentine's themed or whatever, and I kept coming across a story that, like Keanu Reeves was sued by an illusion stalker back in 09. And I didn't know it. I never heard the story. I never heard that somebody sued him, alleging that he impregnated her while she was hypnotized. I'm like this is ludicrous, it's wild yeah.
Speaker 1:The same story. But then, like there's like 12 websites reporting it. I'm like, is this really a fact? And they keep digging around. And the story said the judge ruled, blah, blah, blah. So like I guess I mean obviously he had nothing to do with it, but he's like oh, here's a paternity test, free and clear. You know what I mean. It's just wild, wild, wild, wild.
Speaker 2:Well, and she was suing for like back pay of child support for, like her, four adult children. So she, I'm like this is a wild story, it's funny. I have just read that as well and I don't recall you like sending that my way, but it definitely popped up and I was like this is a very interesting story. You could make a movie out of just that whole story, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean so on a quantum level. They say that the past doesn't stay the same, that it actually does change and that time's not a fixed point. And I'm like what a crazy theory. Like maybe back in 2009,. This didn't happen, but then the planes of existence shifted and it did happen. You know what I mean? I'm like this is wild, like it's like when people think of a movie that doesn't exist, you know.
Speaker 1:But I think that's something else. That's like it's called like Mandela effect or whatever, because Nelson Mandela, what's the story of that Mandela effect? It's like a group of people have, like they're convinced that a different reality existed, or like something, something was true and then changed, like so, nelson Mandela, he's like the president of South Africa or whatever. Right, but then I guess they claim, oh no, he died in prison or something. But then there was like one where Sinbad was a, a gene in a movie, but he never really was. But they claim that he is or Berenstein bears or Berenstan bears or whatever, which is funny, because that one I'm caught up in, because I already I remembered it was like Berenstein bears.
Speaker 1:It's like a series of children's books with a family of bears.
Speaker 2:Well, they had like a animated series too.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, they made it. Yeah, they did make a cartoon for a while and there's more. There's probably better and more examples out there, or whatever, but that's the phenomenon which I think we brought up that phenomenon like 17 times probably in the course of this podcast, because it's a fascinating idea, man. Like you know, if time wasn't moving in one direction, if it was moving in multiple directions at the same time, or something could happen in our present that could change something that happens in 2009,. That's a wild idea too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But this is not the wild idea podcast or the Nelson Mandela podcast or Nelson Mandela effects podcast or Quantum Berenstein Bears podcast. We have usually a movie the week to talk about. Oh wait, actually I do want to get more science fiction related before we go. I just was going to ask Jordan, have you seen a movie called Mars Attacks?
Speaker 2:So I just started it like around the Halloween time but never finished all the way through and I mean, obviously the cast is stacked. So it's like how can I never come across this before?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's such a like cool, I guess, vibe, but no, I haven't.
Speaker 1:I haven't completed the movie, so somebody reminded me about it and then I pulled it out of my DVD stack and like I even like I was all you know threw it up on the socials. Yeah, I like Mars Attacks. I didn't know it was a card game, it's like trading cards from the 60s. Well then they made, like this comic book in the 80s or 90s, which I didn't even read any of the comics, I just like know about the Tim Burton movie, right, and like. Yeah, as she said, like it's got my day.
Speaker 2:Jack Nicholson, jack Black, sarah.
Speaker 1:Jessica Parker. Pierce Brosnan Martin short. I think I Think he plays the government official that's flirting with the alien in disguise, or maybe it's a different actor anyway, but there's a bunch of people in there. Um, and that's literally what it's about. Mars attacks us, but the aliens are cool. They're like they have skull faces, but then they have these giant extended brains, right like the big head alien theory and and uh, but they can't breathe in our oxygen. They have these like masks on the whole time. Anyway, um, I just wanted to sidetrack. I'm gonna sidetrack the whole 45 minutes that we're here.
Speaker 2:We're never getting baby.
Speaker 1:We're never getting to tonight's movie. Just kidding, um, tonight's movie is called white of the eye. Basically, a stereo salesman is accused of being a cilia killer in an Arizona town it's globe, arizona which is One of the maybe bigger but still isolated communities. I don't know, um, and then what else is going on? Oh, and there's like a love triangle at the center of it all. That is like I get.
Speaker 1:I mean, I I don't really know the community of globe that well, but if this movie suggests that this is a place where people go to let their dreams die, and then they get stuck there and then they live there, and so, like there's a couple literally going cross country or something, but then, because she hooks up with the dude, she marries the dude and the other dude goes to jail.
Speaker 1:I don't know. The other dude is gone for like 20 years and then comes back and he's he's like a vagabond. At that point, like on the way out through the desert they flash back to like the late 70s or early 80s or whatever, and the girls with this guy and he's like, uh, he looks like a disco guy from like new york or something, and he's, and they're just passing through him and the guy fixes their radio but then, because he hooks up with the girl, the girl decides to stay with the radio guy or stereo guy, and then like that's it. But stereo man is played by, uh, david keith, who you might know is the dad from fire starter, um, among other things. But you must recognize kathy moriarty from one of your favorite movies, my favorite, but she's much younger so I didn't know if you were gonna catch it or not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course I caught it right away. She's got such an iconic voice and I know I get Shit from you all the time about her. But let me tell you Because, kathy, moriarty plays the villain in casper.
Speaker 1:She's so good, but she's also the, what, the, the wife and reggie bull and um, and she's also in copland, which is like a movie that I like a lot. But Um, she's mostly known for when she's older, like in her career, so she's like Young and spelt and sweaty in this movie. Couple steamy scenes, couple of steamy scenes, for sure. Um, the jumping back and forth between present day and how the three of them met and hung out is a little jumbled and confusing, but I'll say that for the rating section. Okay, I think that's perfect. I got, yeah, I got stuff to say Cool.
Speaker 2:I think it means it's time for savage stats.
Speaker 2:I've got a few of them here. Um, for you, of course, you did mention one. The climactic chase Sequence with the two vehicles towards the end of the movie was shot in globe, arizona, and it was an actual abandoned copper mine. Very cool scene though. Um, you've got, you know, kind of these half made Structures. You've got this massive copper mine as well, and it's a pretty wild, you know, car chase sequence.
Speaker 2:Um, what I found really interesting was, according to kathy moyardy, donald camel was so attentive to the dialogue that neither her or david keith were allowed to do any sort of ad lib During their scenes. Moyardy has spoken of the difficulty that she had with it at first, because it was the first time ever that a director hadn't allowed her to improvise, so she had to stick. They were required to stick very much to the actual dialogue script. Um, I could see how that would be a little difficult, you know, not being able to kind of like Riff a little bit or free flow, you know, but stick into, you know see, I didn't know there was any script involved in this movie.
Speaker 1:So pretty that, like, I have to give the actors a lot more credit now having you haven't said that, because, dang, the actor made them stick to the lines of the script. No room for ad libbing. Well, the the script doesn't seem that like in play. Hmm, it doesn't feel very structured to me, so the fact that they couldn't deviate from their lines is really kind of mind boggling. But anyway, uh, okay, I'll gripe later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, okay. So a cool thing was that the score of this film was done by nick mason, who is one of the like, founding members of pink floyd. Um, this was one of his only or non pink floyd associated productions that he's done, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:And then, and the soundtrack is not pink floyd esque at all. No no, no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know which makes sense, why it's like maybe one of his only projects that he didn't, that he did, you know um, they try to give it like a native american vibe. They got the drums and the blues. Yeah, I mean, it takes place, you know, in arizona, or as close to setting yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, but the opening scene, the brutal opening murder scene where the housewife is, you know, of course, I think she strangled to death. She used a lot of the I would assume that that's a lot of shots in order to compromise that or to compose that first initial murder scene right out of the gate. So it's what we got for stats today.
Speaker 1:Oh, so yeah, I thought there was going to be a fact about the eyeballs. I mean, we stare at so many eyeballs. It's like the metaphor of the the.
Speaker 1:The name of the movie is white of the eye, which, according to the one character, the cockled. The cockled says at one point that he has a patchy blood and it's supposed to be some kind of phrase an Apache, when you get cockled, I don't know. He's using it to describe when you kind of seduce somebody with the power of your eyes or your, your voice, or you have some kind of mystical power to suggest, of suggestion, almost like it's funny. We mentioned hip to hypnosis earlier In relation to a lawsuit with a star, but now we're talking about how, in this movie, it's like the power to influence somebody is what the one guy attributes for why he ends up being a cockled.
Speaker 2:Well, I think what it's also referring to is like moments of battle, because you know you have the main character, you know paul, who you know does his thing, and it's by having that sort of in like altercation Close enough and in the physical proximity of somebody where you can see the whites of their eyes Right. So it's like you know that's. It is interesting. There are a lot of eyeballs, you know.
Speaker 1:They can't get rid of the eye metaphors and yet, like their, I can't think it was first thing, but full tree. The Italian horror filmmaker Um Loves doing stuff to eyeballs but they usually get mangled and you lay to, destroyed, sliced, yeah. So that I mean it makes sense for the close-up, extreme close-ups of eyeballs and those movies. In this movie we don't know if we're looking from the killer's perspective, the victim's perspectives. At one point it suggests the killer's perspectives because we're stalking through the hallways, kind of like point of view shots or whatever, and uh, obviously they wait till the last possible minute to reveal the killer, um. But Other than that they don't really use the eyeballs for anything, it just stays on a metaphorical level. What was the point I was making? Oh, I thought they were gonna really like, really bring it home and like Destroy an eyeball or something. I guess not, they're not gonna take.
Speaker 1:I'm a whore filmmaker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you are right, though, Like you don't know like whose eyeballs they belong to, like it's just like it's still confusing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah cuz it's not consistent. We don't know, because at one point it is the victim's eyes and at one point it is the killer's eyes. It goes back and forth. Yeah, hey, movie fans, you can try out stars. We got a Star Wars affiliate code. You want to watch a bunch of uh, I'm sure there's more eyeball movies to find in stars. You can go watch stars with our little code. It'll be in the podcast notes. Otherwise, we're gonna talk about our favorite bits from wide of the eye In this podcast that you're already listening to. Congratulations, we're here with Jordan's favorite bits. What do you got?
Speaker 2:I noted a couple of things that made me incredibly unhinged.
Speaker 1:Hmm, it actually made you a squirm, uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:Yes, like when the detective washes his hands in the toilet water. So it was.
Speaker 1:I thought it was a link to the sink, but he was just looking for water.
Speaker 2:What does that suggest to you?
Speaker 1:that they're incompetent detectives like I.
Speaker 2:I was like, did he just wash his hands in the toilet water like? Hmm, Because I think the purpose was because there was blood in the shower.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm glad everywhere. What in the kitchen, I got a clean source of water right here in the, in the toilet and washes his hands in the toilet bowl and so that I, would be fair, did have that blue soap, that, what is it? The 200 thousand dial flushes or whatever. What is it called?
Speaker 2:I don't think that was invented back then, but whatever like. I was like that made me incredibly unhinged. And then there's also the like Officer who's flossing his teeth in the mirror and you can just like see the crime scene.
Speaker 1:I didn't know it was like they were. The police mirror.
Speaker 2:No, Paul and Joan have a friend over and he's like just like a lower level officer. I don't know really what.
Speaker 1:Police, the sheriff? Yeah, so it's the. It's the deputy that likes the sunsets?
Speaker 2:Yes, and he's like those two, like you know.
Speaker 1:I don't know so the deputy displays really strange behavior. He like powdery in his armpits.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's like in there flossing his teeth and you can see the stuff like splattering all over the mirror. There was just like a lot of little things that I had seen. That I was like, what is this movie about? And Another piece of that was my I'm not even sure I'm.
Speaker 1:I've watched it now I'm still not even sure what this movie's about.
Speaker 2:I know well in like it was. It started off like right off the bat to you with like unhinged stuff. I would say my favorite scene really was the initial like murder scene, because it starts off really weird, right. He's like stalking her and then she goes to look at like her meat that's in a marinade and one of the goldfish was put inside the marinade and I don't know it just like started there. There's all this color and blood and water from flowers and it just was kind of a wild like Starts the scene but it like went right into the unhingedness and I was like what are we watching? And yeah, that's kind of some of my favorite bits. It was just Kind of a little bit of a skin skin.
Speaker 1:The board housewife, who becomes like victim for something like that. She like keeps breaking her stereo. So he has to come over with this deal, get it, fix it. I was like, oh, dear penthouse letters. So funny kids. If you don't know what penthouse is, your parents do go ask them right now what penthouse is anyway, for anyone who's younger than 40, 30, 20, I don't know. You've probably heard it in a bunch of movies. It's a magazine. Yeah, before you get things clips on your phone Free, you had to buy magazines, yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah people tell their sexy stories. They would write dear penthouse forms and they would tell other sexy stories and this and this part of the movie is literally a penthouse form letter and no conflict there. But I guess like they're all cheaters. Yeah, like she ditched the boyfriend who was trying to drive from New York to LA, stayed with the stereo man and Then he apparently hooks up with all his stereo clients that happen to be lonely housewives living in globe.
Speaker 1:When their sales salesmen husbands are gone to Phoenix or something. You know what I mean like who knows? My favorite bit, though, is is when the, the lady, gets wrapped up in the carpet with like zip ties, but then he bounces her into the tub, yes, but then he holds up a mirror so she can. So I mean, if we're gonna go with I metaphors he, like the the killer, shows the victim her own face as she's drowning in the tub, and I thought like, wow, what an elaborate horror movie thing to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's your bloodlust running right there. It's pretty hot for it and like it's pretty wild. We still don't know who the killer is at that point and that's like a third of the way in the movie. Maybe. But the movie so just joined it with its flashbacks, like trying to like. It uses the flashbacks too heavy because like there's no character development Except for in the flashbacks, to try to make us care one way or the other about the characters. But then, like, then the movie takes like a rat, like turns into Rambo. At one point, like Both, the killer is suddenly stacked with a personal arsenal that you might see in Rambo oh, I like his war paint, because they were trying to keep the same, like you know, whatever mystique that they had, you know, going the little girl Danielle was pretty cute too when she, like she finds her mom like Locked up in the attic and she crawls up there and she's Mom.
Speaker 2:Dad is wearing a bunch of hot dogs. And it's just like I loved the little ballsy girl.
Speaker 1:Well, the little girl's like out to lunch, like the more the movie goes on, I guess there's like something wrong with the little girl. You know, like she's not all there, but uh serial killer for.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's like like I'm not. It's not a spoiler alert because I don't like the movie enough to say here's the spoiler for the evening. It's just, I mean, I'm bleeding into ratings now. Okay, so I like the war paint on his face. I like that one thing of the bathtub sequence and Our ratings go like this Binge now.
Speaker 1:You got to put it at the top of your playlist, watch it now, binge later, get to it eventually, but it's not something that's so exciting or so we're so passionate about it. You got to play it right now. Or like, spend the rest of your evening watching it and then binge never, which Jordan continues to argue that it doesn't exist, and I understand from a philosophical point. But she's saying you will even seek out the bad movies Just to have the experience, and I get it. However, binge never means don't waste your two hours or 90 minutes. You can't get the time back. You wasted it. Um, I Guess I'll just go into my points. And it's obvious, even if somebody's been listening to the whole episode of Long-form content with us here, okay, if you've been listening to the whole ride so far, I think you can tell by the tone of my voice I don't like this movie, very much so, and it's the first time watch. I should have put a disclaimer at the beginning, like usually there's some research done. I had replaced another movie in the lineup with this movie because I like David Keith, but I don't want David Keith to be a murderer.
Speaker 1:And then it technically goes off its hinges, like when he's covered in dynamite and Bandoleros. I think they're called bandoleros when you wear a bunch of ammo on like a belt but across your chest. So he's got like three or four rings of ammo, three pistols and some kind of automatic weapon. But then he kills the family dog, he's shooting at his little girl, then he's going after the wife and then the old and then the hermit ex-con boyfriend.
Speaker 1:The cockled Shows up. He's wrapped in a Afghan blanket which is like just a style quilt or whatever, but again still has the Southwest motif. You know, you know. I mean like the same thing with the music and the setting and the metaphors. It's the motif's right into the blanket and he's like been living at the abandoned work site, as Jordan said. In real life it's like a former copper mine, but he's got like a freakin, the gun that's that's usually attached to the back of an army jeep or something like a 50 caliber machine, like rifle, machine gun, and and he's gonna use it on the serial killer. So now we're not even the realm of serial killer movies anymore, because these aren't types of weapons that Serial murderers typically use according to their FBI profiles or any of the movies. Don't you see that?
Speaker 2:even like his like. If we're talking about like serial killer stuff, right, typically they have like a they, they have they. He does the same thing for every one of his kills and so now, at the very end, he's pivoting to all this ammunition and stuff.
Speaker 1:Well, I would I would like to come from. Well, I think the kills aren't even that consistent. Actually, like, because you mentioned, like in the beginning, he's playing with a pet at one of the things and then, like he body slams the girl to knock her out, to put her in the tub. He doesn't use the ties, I don't think anywhere else You're right.
Speaker 2:I guess it's like there's strangulation, then there's also drowning, it's kind of no pattern, there's no consist, there's no pattern, right.
Speaker 1:And then at one point the movies, like it's trying to like MacGuffin you or red herring you or whatever they, whatever they say in mystery novels, or like True crime movies you tell me what the terms are but like, like, oh, the cockled tires. I'm calling him that because I don't know what the name Jordan knows the names in this movie. I don't know any of the names Stereoman. They think he's a serial killer because of the size of the tires on this truck and only four people in Arizona have these tires. So he's on their, on their list of suspects. The cockled also has the tires on his repair, his repair truck, or whatever.
Speaker 1:Because the movie suggests that he's like working at a auto body shop next to a motel Unclear, because he's wearing a jumpsuit and there's a auto body shop in a motel in one scene and it looks like a service truck that he's driving around him and they the movie zooms in on the tire, like haha, yeah, right, was doing the killing, you know, um, but like going, like attacking your own family, like there's that famous American serial killer, btk or whatever. He's like a family man, like a regular dude. You know I'm saying yeah, I'm like, and then gets caught and like his thing was like pretty ritual but he had like a whole family life. So the movie deviating Because then like you think I'm like what it look. What do we take away from here? It's about the love affair, which actually the most twisted but most serious part is like the fact that she still loves him At the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he, and then he like has a moment where he's also talking to her like, oh yeah, like this is Like they could just go home after that and have freaking. You know, like I don't know they could go home and have dinner. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's trying to like blow her up all the way down to the core of the earth and then into the stratosphere. It's like I don't know. But if not.
Speaker 1:If they had managed not to wound and maim each other, they could just go back and, like you know, turn on the tv Football game or whatever. Yeah, nothing happened. Nothing's happened. Yeah, weird.
Speaker 1:Cook actual hot dogs for the daughter and just move on the next day. However, you know, in the in the theme of valentines, I mean A relationships are kind of kind of like that, like you take it, you could take it all the way there to an 11, and then like you're just watching, like you know, um, I don't know, modern, modern family reruns or something. You know what I mean. Like that's how it is, folks. Anyway, instead of like any accident, you walk, walk away from, like, oh, any relationship you can walk away from dang.
Speaker 2:Um, so what are you gonna rate it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are the three reasons I'm gonna say binge never, because I don't want want to see david keith being the killer. Um, technically it has all. It's just poorly edited, like I just the pacing of the movie itself, like it's not consistent enough on a technical level. And then you say, like they had to say the words verbatim, are they? Is it really that great of a script to begin with? Then you know what I mean. Like it doesn't seem to be Like that. Shakespeare, I mean the best acting is when she, when she still loves him. And you're just like what the hell?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, like I mean, you know, the stuff with the little girl at home was a little inconsistent, but then like he don't want her to get shot, but then like he could he choose his own dog, which is like, come on, man. Then he says some wild shit when he's chasing her. He says some wild things are like just wild.
Speaker 1:And then the flashback he kisses the other guy Before she gets the blood of the deer, which is fine, that's ceremonial, whatever he's. We're trying to establish that he, you know, he drinks the blood of his victims, whatever, or absorbs the power of the animal he just killed. So we're getting, we're getting to that real primal level, right. But then he kisses the guy and the guy's like what's happening? Yeah, looks what. I'm like when we taking this?
Speaker 2:Like I'm completely forgot about that. Yeah, no, it was a binge. Never for me too. I literally was like the whole time. I was like what is happening in this movie? I Genuinely don't know what's going on in this movie.
Speaker 2:And so that was really hard to kind of like follow along. It's like, okay, there's a murt. I'm like, is it about murders or is it about something else? I don't really know? And then it was so, yeah, no, it was a binge, never for sure. I don't know if it would be different if I watched it a second time or what.
Speaker 1:I feel the same you know I don't think you can watch this movie again.
Speaker 2:I don't.
Speaker 1:I think you're right about that, so I want to like David Keith so much and then you're just like it's a movie, just gonna prove that he's the one who did it and like he's, whatever. You know I Mean like it's. And then part of you like it's really funny, you ever watch like I don't. It was like a joke in a movie. It was either a joke in a movie or a joke online or joking a cartoon, I don't remember. I can't remember the source material, but the bottom line. Somebody said like oh, I love horror movies when everybody's getting along, everybody's friends, everyone's having a good time, right before every, right before bad things happen. Like Then the specific knowledge about all the stereo equipment was really fascinating. But that, but the movie's not about stereo Equivalent.
Speaker 1:If only the movie was about that just about a stereo guy that hey, that bangs housewives and knows a lot about these weird stereo components.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Um, oh, I made comments the other day about this Percy Jackson show and my point was simply that they didn't invest in the CGI. And then CGI took, takes you out of the story, and so you can't suspend your disbelief to believe in the fantastical things that are supposed to be on the screen. Yeah, I eat the monsters, the animated characters that are interacting with the real people. And, uh, wilson on tick tock said you can't fault them for a low budget. Cgi is expensive.
Speaker 1:When I read this on tick tock, I thought for a second oh, I'm gonna immediately reply. I'm gonna reply to Wilson and be like I can't fault them for a bad budget because, freaking Disney, they have the biggest budgets of all the tv shows on television, right, true, and the internet. And then like, and CGI is expensive. Like, even if that were true, that CGI is expensive, they could have just employed people to build the things and so we'd have more, more people employed and less fake stuff. But I was like His response means he doesn't understand what I'm saying, he doesn't get it. You know what I mean. Like, yeah, like I can't fault them for having a low budget. Like I don't know who's assigning budgets and I don't think the budget is very low, like, like, those productions are expensive anyway. And then the CGI. It would suck to think that we're spending so much money on it when it looks that horrible. Like, let's allocate, let's spend the money somewhere else. Is what I'm saying, right, yeah?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, well, and it's like if the money's going towards those resources in the first place, you got to just do it right, right, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, otherwise you can fault them for having a bad budget and poor CGI because they've allocated so much money yeah, specific purpose and it still sucks. Then you know what are you gonna do do it right or pay the price.
Speaker 2:You know so.
Speaker 1:Everybody just likes it. When I'm PG and all my criticism of movies and tv is just so nice. Then when I actually say something like hey guys, I love magical creatures and I just don't believe the magical creatures in this show, um, anyway, um, if you watch something that's not the movie of the week, you have anything you want to share with the audience.
Speaker 2:We're watching some old stuff, you know, just watching, like the old Jurassic park. We talked about Jurassic park a couple weeks ago on on this and uh, yeah, we watched, just like the original.
Speaker 1:The first one Are you gonna do the original three, are you gonna get into the? Lost world, and then the third one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love the third one. I love it when they bring back sam neal and they're in like the whole kind of like Bird cage, if you will, for the pterodactyls. It was like pretty. That was like a highlight for me growing up as a kid. So, um yeah, just watching some fun old things with good Lookin dinosaurs, for it being 2024 now and those movies being done in what the 90s, so I'll take it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, did I already mention that the original ninja turtles was on paramount plus? I don't think so, okay. So, anyway, if you want to watch the late 80s, early 90s, the original Ninja turtles cartoon, it's on paramount plus. Oh, and then Queen pins that's a movie I told you about like maybe six months ago, and it had like disappeared off the network that made it, hmm, and then it was like nowhere to be found. But it's Christian bail, not Christian Kristen, again, with tonight's words, kristen Bell and Paul Walterhauser and Vince Vaughn. Queen pins is about like these coupon ladies that figure out how to get the coupons from other manufacturers, yeah, and make an unlimited amount of copies so they become like cartel bosses in a way. Very super entertaining and it popped up on Netflix, so that's a good cast to right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like that movie I want Jordan's take on that one. Then I watched I was debating whether or not for Valentine's, if we're gonna watch this movie called see a love, which has al Pacino. I might have mentioned this in a couple episodes ago. I don't know if I actually brought this up or not. Maybe I did, but see a love has al Pacino, ellen Barkin and John Goodman and they're trying to figure out if she is a murderer because all these dates keep dying, like men that post these ads, like we get a. Instead of talking about just penthouse letters tonight, we can get some other news going. People, instead of Tinder, had to actually print ads in magazines and newspapers to To go on dates. That was the dating app of you know, 40 years ago. 50 years ago, whatever. You post single ads and then go on blind dates and so somebody's killing all the blind dates in this movie. I don't why didn't I select it for this?
Speaker 1:Maybe because we want with master instead, I don't know See, a love might show up somewhere in one of our podcasts one day, who knows for sure?
Speaker 2:Netflix just dropped another like true crime, like episode. It's a, it's a documentary but it's called like I think it's lover, killer, stalker, something, but it's about, it's a literally that the real life version of see of what you just said Exactly this guy.
Speaker 1:That's probably why I see a love was in their catalog, because when they were like they get relatable content kind of like tandem stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there is a brand new movie. I was, I almost watched it the other day. It's like that. It's like a guy Goes on a date, she turns out to be a stalker and then she rucks his life. You know, for I don't know how long Also described his marriage in the dictionary. What's a dictionary, kids? Seriously, these books are how words are spelled, those filled with words. I told you what the words were about. I Mean. I'm sure there's an app. They're probably dictionary. There is dictionary calm and I think they probably have an app for it. But Stick around, we'll come back with like more podcasts. And I just realized now that I'm about to play the outro song, that I never even played the intro the music.
Speaker 1:That is the intro. Well, I don't know what to do about that. Oh, I'll figure it out. Oh, I, maybe that we'll have to develop that as a rule, where you're just like John shut up, play the play the theme song. John shut up. Yeah, the theme song. You're already in headlines. Oh shit, we're already in fever pants. I.
Speaker 2:Save for it or something theme song say for it. I got to figure out something where I can be like alert, alert, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think if we say something like before you spoil anything more John.
Speaker 2:Whatever? Slowy rolled speed racer yeah, get the intro video rocking and rolling. Something We'll figure it out.
Speaker 1:Definitely won't be hanging out in globe Arizona anytime soon.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Just because the movie doesn't you know, suggest that it's a tourist attraction.
Speaker 2:No, I love that. It does say that it's a luxurious. In the like synopsis it's like a luxury. I'm like was it a luxury community?
Speaker 1:I don't know Like even the synopsis is all confusing, so I forgot to mention that the movie taught us that a country boy can survive Because they were playing that song as well. Hmm but she was driving the car, so it's not like they didn't give her a country girl song, it was country boy can survive, anyway, that you pop, just tires. She did do that the only evidence that he was the serial killer in the first place, tie her true.
Speaker 2:Full circle.