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Gangster Vampire Movie Reactions

January 25, 2024 Johnny Spoiler and Jordan Savage. Season 61 Episode 3
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Join Johnny Spoiler and Jordan Savage as they review the action-packed and hilarious vampire-mafia movie, Innocent Blood. This dark comedy horror film takes viewers on a thrilling journey as a vampire who feeds only on criminals teams up with an undercover cop to take down the vampire mafia. With a star-studded cast featuring Anthony LaPaglia, Anne Parillaud, Robert Loggia, and Angela Bassett, this movie is filled with drama, romance, and plenty of twists. Don't miss out on this entertaining and unique vampire flick!

Ever found yourself wondering if a caffeine overload might accidentally summon a spectral visitor or a rendezvous with a quantum doppelgänger? Well, Jack and I couldn't resist the urge to explore this bizarre notion, especially after I penned a short film on the very subject. Tune in as we reveal our effervescent banter about Ghost Energy's latest tangy creation, reminiscing about those sugar-packed gummy worms from the recesses of our childhood candy stashes. Hold onto your seats because the Savage Scream Queen, Jordan Savage, also drops by to spill the details on her chilling brush with nature's own brand of terror—aggressive plant roots with a penchant for plumbing destruction.

Lights off, headphones on, and let laughter be your guide through the macabre and the supernatural. This episode isn't just about the spooky encounters; it's a rollercoaster through the latest upheavals in horror cinema, from a refreshingly absurd 'Anaconda' comeback to vampire narratives that twist the genre into thrilling new shapes. We'll dissect the clever marketing ploys, the nods to authenticity that resonate with true horror aficionados, and even the occasional cinematic blunder that can leave us chuckling in our seats. Plus, I'll share how a sitcom binge became my unexpected lifeline amidst a sea of monotonous marketing meetings and the importance of finding solace in the familiar glow of a screen.

Wrapping things up, we turn the spotlight onto the curious world of film editing enthusiasts, paying homage to Topher Grace's fascinating pastime of slicing and dicing the Star Wars saga into a more streamlined narrative. It's a conversation that's as much about the art of storytelling as it is about the passion that drives fans to reimagine the movies they hold dear. Whether you're a die-hard film buff or just in it for the quirky tales and unexpected insights, this episode promises to be a cinematic joyride through the weird, the wonderful, and the downright wacky world of movies. Don't miss out—hit play and join our spirited exchange that's sure to keep you entertained from start to finish.

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Speaker 1:

Well, folks, people's podcast listeners, podcast watchers and everything in between. My co-host is Jack.

Speaker 2:

She's jacked up on caffeine where she's starting fully loaded Mouth running at a million miles an hour. But I'm so excited. You know I'm excited to be potted today and have had more than my fill of caffeine to prepare.

Speaker 1:

so you know what? I wrote, a short film based on an urban legend, because I was reading online a report about like if you drink 12 pots of caffeine, you can see ghosts. But I was just. I just had a second thought about your talking about energy drinks. I was like I wonder if you could drink so many energy drinks. You can catch up to yourself Like just break this time space continuum and you're sitting there as Jordan and then another Jordan appears because you've just had so many energy drinks. Yeah, you've caught yourself after drinking them.

Speaker 1:

I have two thoughts the post energy drink and during energy drink, and there's two of you existing in the same space and time.

Speaker 2:

Every funny thing I add to the warning label.

Speaker 1:

Because you know the warning label is always like oh, it's caffeinated. Oh, don't take if you're breastfeeding or pregnant right now. The second one is like you may encounter quantum version of yourself. You know what I mean. Like this will break the time space continuum. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

My brain immediately goes to the Futurama episode where they get their like. They get like a relief fund Everybody does and Fry decides to spend his all on cups of caffeine and he essentially like goes super power fast for a time almost standstill, and he like eventually sleeps the day. But I do like the whole ghost thing. It's like maybe you're trying to like create a caffeine induced seance so you can see and speak to ghosts. You know, I think that would be awesome.

Speaker 1:

Well, in my story and it's copyrighted, folks that don't. I mean, I guess somebody can make it before I do. But the guy, he's trying to boost his social media accounts so he's like, oh, I'm going to do this experiment. He starts to have his friend tape it and then, of course, naturally, a ghost shows up. Do you know what I mean? But there's a huge twist and I think I'll leave the twist for myself, because, although I enjoy spoiling other people's movies, I don't want to spoil my own money. I need that filmmaking money.

Speaker 2:

I want to make that movie.

Speaker 1:

What else is going on? Oh, you mentioned ghosts. There's another kind of we like the ghost energy, and there's a new one, and the reason we're talking about this is because Jordan brought it up to me before I hit record, so I just wanted to take a minute to talk about it. What's the flavor that's out there?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the new flavor is sour pink lemonade and it tastes like the pink and yellow, like trolley nightcrawlers, the sour gummy worms. Those are like my favorite all time, like one of my favorite all time candies. So specifically the pink and yellow. So love those. So good, crack open a cold box of wine or pour something cold on ice, because it's the binge watches podcast.

Speaker 1:

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's another new year, a bunch of podcasts going out, as always. I'm Johnny Spoiler. I like to spoil movies, mostly the ones I love on this podcast. What we do here is always by Jordan Savage. The Savage scream queen herself likes energy drinks.

Speaker 1:

She's got some kind of weird plant problem that we're going to address right away, and she loves horror movies and in fact her plant problem is horror movie adjacent. So let's crack this open. Because I was like I want to hear about how the new year is starting and then I get a text in the middle of the night. She's like I got a plant problem and then she sends me a list of plant related horror movies. I'm like wait a minute back up, you got a problem with your pipes, your plants, you know. I don't know if it was like a. At first you think about like dating life metaphors, like oh, date night didn't go so well, there's something wrong with the pipes. And then she's like she told me a story I'll have her tell you, and then I'll just tell you it's Arizona, baby, go ahead. What's the deal with the plants?

Speaker 2:

Well, it was a really shitty situation, like literally, we had some plumbing issues and it was pretty bad. So, like the main, Well that detail.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know, I didn't know it was fecal matter related. I didn't know it backed up toilets as well, literally coming up through the like, through the showers.

Speaker 2:

Okay, my dad asked, did it stay in the pan or did it go out onto the floor? Literally follows up with shit runs down.

Speaker 1:

That's that boomer boomer for ya. Boomer, boomer.

Speaker 2:

Literally. So we obviously had someone come out to do. You know, wrote a router, pleasant, wonderful, you know plumber guy really appreciate him. But he had literally showed me that there is a ball.

Speaker 1:

So wasn't you and your boyfriend just laying huge? No, just sleeping huge dinosaurs, literally.

Speaker 2:

So he literally pulled, like a ball of roots, a root ball out from the pipes. That was what was coming out of the door. Yes, plant roots and he said that essentially roots in the ground tried to follow the vibrations of the water right, Because they want water and they go towards the pipes and essentially they like break into the pipes and just like clog the main line.

Speaker 1:

Yeah see, a few weeks ago Jordan was like oh, I've escaped that nasty winter weather hitting Denver Colorado area Literally shit storm and she's like John, is it? Do you have a blizzard out there in Boston right now? How cold are you? How's it going? I'm just sunny and great here in Arizona. I deserve it, and the plants are eating their way through her pipes. Welcome to Arizona, jordan.

Speaker 2:

Yeah so, like we said, it is scary movie adjacent, right? So I was like, what are killer plant movies that?

Speaker 1:

you could watch. I got to know that a plant would creep up in your toilet and try to get you.

Speaker 2:

Right when plants attack, and so Instead of sharks.

Speaker 1:

You got that inherent fear of watching jaws coming at you in your shower. Now you're like I gotta worry about brown. Brown plants, green plants. Yeah, it's like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I have a fantastic list here. There's about 15 movies that they are ranking for killer plants. Some of my favorites that make the list, I would say, is I guess I could just even list all of them, if that sounds good.

Speaker 1:

No, way too long. What are like three standouts of? There is on the list you found.

Speaker 2:

What most people would probably relate to is Poltergeist 1982. You have that spooky tree, or perhaps you know. The tree is like being possessed and trying to come through a window. So that's really.

Speaker 1:

I was gonna say I think the tree crashes through a window, yes, but it's. It's clearly motivated like the trees possessed or something Like obviously it's unnatural, right, but I don't think that's the most disturbing thing in that movie.

Speaker 2:

I'm not gonna totally say we're not talking about that.

Speaker 1:

The race is seen or the we're swimming with actual dead people, though.

Speaker 2:

I would say pretty much everybody's familiar with the incredible musical little shop of whores. You know, 1986. Peeped steam off, peeped Right. And then I will leave you with and I don't know if we watched this for the pot or if this was just a personal watch that I had peeped on the evil dead 2013,. Right, they're literally in the middle of nowhere and she is essentially trying to recover or detox and she runs into the forest and essentially, you know, this terrifying you know thing comes in literally the tree, like kind of gets inside her right. So super scary, great scene.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't sure if the remake was gonna go there, because the original that's like what their original notoriously known for is like the main character's sister is trying to flee from the demonic energy into the woods and then it's just like, oh, you're just gonna be, we're gonna stop you right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just no consent from a tree you know?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they did include the 1981 version as well on this list. So yeah, lots of spooky plants. You know when plants attack out there so people be careful about.

Speaker 1:

Well then, even I've. Invasion of the by snatches is probably somewhere on that list too. People grow in pods, so they're technically made at a plant or whatever it's actually number one. Invasion there you go.

Speaker 2:

Invasion of the body snatchers so.

Speaker 1:

But we're not here to talk about energy, drinks, pots and plants or whatever I was teasing Jordan with a few minutes ago. Let's see what else is going on. We're gonna talk about, actually, a movie with vampires versus the mafia. Yeah, and it's not some cheapy, cheesy sci-fi channel movie or asylum entertainment movie where it's like literally called vampire versus mafia. I'm sure that's out there. I'm sure there is a movie called vampire versus the mob. It's just some of the plot devices in this movie. Now we're here to talk about any simple. First let's go to some home video headlines. What's new in TV and movies? The original writer of Jurassic Park and Jurassic Park Lost World, which is the first two Jurassic Park movies, is coming back to redeem, save or salvage the Jurassic World series. I guess the I don't even know what numbers are up to Seven or eight or nine, I don't know how many, cause I've done three with three with press prat, and then three other ones or two other ones, I don't know. Anyway, so, yeah, so.

Speaker 2:

I guess this would be number seven, I think.

Speaker 1:

Number seven. Yeah, so this is like it's still called Jurassic World, but they're like, hey, let's bust out that screenwriter that made some really killer dinosaur movies with us, anyway. So if you're hoping for a new Jurassic Park, you're gonna get one, and then maybe it'll do better than the last one, who knows? I love this story. I came across the fact that they're gonna bring back Anaconda when a new sequel with the Killer Snakes. But they're doing kind of an interesting thing. Supposedly, what they're gonna do is it's gonna be about a film crew trying to make a sequel to Anaconda and then, of course, they're gonna encounter the Anacondas. I'm like, okay, yeah, cool, let's do it One of those meta type horror movies and not meta Facebook.

Speaker 1:

What meta actually meant? Where you're, I actually don't even know what meta means. What the hell does it mean? It's like what you're referencing is also happening to you while you're watching it. I guess, in this case, because it's like a movie within a movie, I don't know. Anyway, here's something cool Anthony Ketus, who's like the lead singer of crap, one of my favorite oh right, not chili peppers. I was like don't let me forget one of the names of my favorite bands and one thing that reminds me of a California kid. On some level, his memoir Scar tissue was getting made into a movie. I Mean, yeah, I'm down for it, down for it.

Speaker 2:

I love memoirs, so I Love that. Sounds awesome.

Speaker 1:

No, do you ever see this Danny Phantom cartoon on Nickelodeon?

Speaker 1:

I was obsessed so this is kind of like ghostbusters. If the ghostbuster could leave their Form, like it could transfer into a ghost themselves and fight the other ghosts. It'd be like if you could leave your body and fight ghosts. That's like what Danny phantom is all about. Whether you not really like the cartoon, it's kind of a cool movie plot jump out of your body, flight ghosts, so. But I definitely it's filled with ghostbuster references. Absolutely, you know what I mean. I would imagine that Danny phantom is partially inspired by the og ghostbusters, so are you here for it, jordan?

Speaker 2:

You know I'm here for it All right.

Speaker 1:

There's a rumor that Steven Spielberg's that's what we might be a horror movie Rosemary baby type plot. I was reading about it. No, I'm like, okay, well, I mean, rosemary babies is like a apocalypse baby, so religious horror, I don't know. I mean, who knows? I mean Spielberg's a Jewish filmmaker, so I don't know if he would do a Christianity themed horror movie or religious horror movie. I guess we'll find out. I mean, I can't think of anything else that would relate to Rosemary's baby, except for maybe the cult aspect. Maybe he's just making a movie about a cult. Who knows? That's rumor. Real folks, you have to. Yeah, it's just being reported by all the internet rags, but who the hell knows if it's actually what's true and what's not true?

Speaker 1:

Tonight's movie, innocent blood Marie is a vampire, only feeds on criminals, but one of the criminals survives and transforms into a bloodthirsty final boss. Now, to stop this mob of blood drinkers from destroying the city, marie is gonna team up with a very unlucky undercover cop who has a desire to bring down the vampire mafia. I Should mention that Marie is Nikita from the original LaFam Nikita. That was probably Jordan's top, most savage, savage stat and I yanked it right out from under her.

Speaker 2:

No, believe it or not, it wasn't so, but we know and love her from Nikita. So yeah, um, you know I'm always for a like woman be a character, and she is in that that's female hero types. Love it. It's the best, and so she does not disappoint here. And innocent blood got a Few pretty fun little facts for you today, for savage stats. I thought those they have like kind of like a slogan for this movie too. That seemed like pretty enticing back in the day.

Speaker 2:

Um, you know back what's a tagline 90s movies when they would be like you know, from the director, from the legendary director that brought you national lampoon's animal house, the Blues Brothers. An American werewolf in London Trading places, in coming to America brings you the dark comedy, horror film from the undead. So I thought that was pretty fascinating, um that sounds like they're really selling hard.

Speaker 1:

His other hits because they're like you know, the marketing department's like guys, I don't know if this movie's gonna work. We should maybe mention the five other hits this dude has, because this one that would get me hooked for sure.

Speaker 2:

I do think that it didn't do super well, you know, but anyways. Um, the distributors did retitle this film. It was then retitled to a French vampire in America, and that was for international release. They did that, of course, without informing the director, john Landis, which angered him greatly, and it caused a lot of confusion when the film was promoted outside.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a French vampire in America Makes me think that it's absolutely a French film made by a stuck up French director or something. Who's gonna win cans? You know, you know, I mean. It doesn't America at all.

Speaker 2:

Well, and I'm sure that led to a little bit of the confusion, and why it possibly didn't Land you know very well. What I found interesting is that John Landis said preview audiences had troubles on understanding and and heavy French accent, but he refused to dub her, which I'm really glad that he did not. I think it's very cute, but that's a personal opinion, so Well, she could be a friend.

Speaker 1:

She could be a French vampire, so the accent makes sense. I mean, she's right in a live a long time, and right now I mean early time. Vampires from New Orleans or French vampires are pretty hot right now in movies, so right.

Speaker 2:

I mean I think, back to you know one of my personal favorites which is, you know, interview with the vampire, and they have accents from where they came from. So that makes sense to me. You know that she would come over from France and she would be feeding off of mobsters here in America. But I think that just leads a little bit to our backstory. I thought it was pretty fun that during the film they're often playing other movies or pieces of television in the background. So Phantom of the Rue, morgue 1954, is playing on the television during the morgue scene, specifically when Michele is First brought in and then again when he essentially makes his really frenzy exit out of the morgue. Then there's also like Godzilla, I'm pretty sure is referenced in the beginning, I think I caught that. But there's also Alfred Hitchcock's cameo in Strangers on a Train 1951, and Then Jacko, one of the Goonies is watching Sir Christopher Lee and Peter crushing dramatic final one of the goombas.

Speaker 1:

You got it or man is they like to say?

Speaker 2:

yeah, and that is in the horror of Dracula 1958. So they do that throughout the movie. I think that's kind of fun little Easter eggs. But I feel like this is a Johnny spoiler, and this is my last stat, because you talk about tropes all the time, especially when we're talking about things like vampires or werewolves. This defies to common vampire tropes in this movie that's. One of them is that vampires having no reflection or can't see the reflection in mirrors she obviously can see her reflection in mirrors in this one and then vampires having to feed as a human, on vampire blood in order to turn into yeah she has her beater's guilt, she has vampire guilt, yeah Well, so I mean it's a moral quandary, so that's why they broke that trope.

Speaker 1:

But um, I, I mean, I also wrote down, I mean this, this affects my rating mostly, so I'll bring it up again, but I wrote down also what kills the vampires question mark.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, right, that's a little too, that we know, like sunlight is the major killer because it kills the lawyer played by Don Rickles. So, again, what a cameo. There's a ton of cameos in movies. I'll get to that in many, many cameos. Yeah, but yeah, dang. And then obviously, spoiler alert, do they get rid of the mob bus? Hell, yeah, they do. How does it happen?

Speaker 1:

He's too ambitious. His own bravado kills him. He's like he gets smashed between a car and a bus and then the cop has the opportunity, while he's distracted during one of his speeches, to throw the damn lighter to ignite him into flames. But the major here's a major. This is like.

Speaker 1:

One of the coolest parts is that he's Giving a speech, a final moment of I don't know Well, just whatever. Like he doesn't think you can. He think he's so great, he can't die like these that he's that much of a legend or vampire or whatever Dracula he thinks he has Dracula status and he's like on fire. But they had the stuntman talking as the character wall on fire for I don't know how many seconds they held the shot for, but obviously they probably what they did is they probably had the actor do like dialogue recording and then played it over. You know the stuntman, but he's like on fire. He's as he's decomposing from the flames are getting burnt to a crisp. He's still given his defiance speech and it's a pretty cool moment, man, anyway. So we're at favor, bitch. Oh my gosh, we're there so many.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, I thought some of the one-liners were hilarious. I don't know. I think that they like nailed the mob boss, like personality. Obviously he does a fantastic job, being Michele, one of the ones.

Speaker 1:

I'm tracking in this episode is how many times you offend the mob. Oh no, why Parts to yeah? Well disrespect the family Jordan I.

Speaker 2:

Love that he says Like I can hear an angel fart. He's like waking up from his nap. Michele is like essentially goes into hiding just because of the sunlight, right, and he finds this like butcher that he obviously yeah, he's like stumbling around in the dark trying to figure out oh, I'm a vampire.

Speaker 1:

What does that mean? What are the rules?

Speaker 2:

Right and he notices that, like sunlight obviously hurts him and so he goes to this butcher. He like goes into the freezer because it's airtight, it's light, tight, right, falls asleep on like a Rump roast and then when he wakes up, you know, he feels like a hundred million dollars, right.

Speaker 1:

And that's where the Sam Raimi cameo is. He's playing meat boy. There's a meatpacking plan.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:

I'm fronts, I mean they, they own all these businesses, right? Yes, yeah, yeah and so his.

Speaker 2:

You know Men underneath him come in and they're essentially talking about how they could try to like overthrow him, not necessarily in a sense, but pass the baton off to somebody else.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they did like. Hey, no, boys, we're gonna go immortal or we're gonna knock out the other families.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, hasn't quite planned that out yet, but I just thought it was so funny. He goes like I can hear an angel fire essentially saying that he heard them talking about how they're gonna try to replace him and he's like not gonna happen. I mean, girls, ladies, put your tween books down. No vampires was sparkly skin, the sex scene, and this one was Saucy. So if you're looking for something that's a little bit more, you know your speed now that we have a the movie starts to fall apart after the sex scene.

Speaker 1:

It built. The whole movie is building to the sex scene and then after that, I think anyway, anyway the sex scene though.

Speaker 2:

Chef kiss, okay, perfect loved it. I don't know it had all the things that I loved. You know it's like got neon lights. They're stripper clubs. You like have these excellent Italian. You know men in it. You have a wonderful vampire lady.

Speaker 1:

She wasn't really our. She wasn't. The actress wasn't attached at first and like there was another director before landis. But John Landis was supposed to make a Vampire movie about Las Vegas. Yeah, the people who run the city were gonna be vampires in a movie called red sleep or something. But then Landis gets this project. If they hadn't brought in the key to, I don't think the sexing would have hit the way you're describing it.

Speaker 2:

I agree, you know sexy acting.

Speaker 1:

That's definitely an art form. Yes, acrobatic stylistic choices.

Speaker 2:

They both do a fantastic job. Like it, just the whole like leading up to it, the foreplay and it like it just was honestly really good. It was tasteful, nothing, you know, too wild, but I think I can agree and you can agree. The best part is Manny the lawyer's death in the hospital when he just gets lit up in flames and light. I don't know if you were gonna.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, the sunburst is like melting and the attendees don't know what to do. Lenna Quigley, who's a horror movie actress she's one of the. She's the nurse that runs in screaming, or whatever. So, like again, jordan said, it's jam packed with freaking cameos. Should I go ahead and mention the other killer cameos in this or what? Go ahead I had a feeling you had those locked and loaded.

Speaker 1:

I got him Tom Savini, who's both a director and an actor, but also a special effects master. He plays the journalist, the photographer. That's like sneaking around as a paparazzi taking mob photos. And then Dario Argento is actually the EMT when they roll the Don Rickles she was just talking about the character, the lawyer that burst into flames in the in the hospital. When he's transforming, they are think he's just a victim so they put him inside a ambulance and it's actually the Italian Giallo for a horror filmmaker. Dario Argento, that's like you'll be okay, you're alright, you know. And then we mentioned Sam Raimi already and I oh, angela Bassett, she's like in there as police lieutenant. To be fair, she doesn't have anything to do in this movie, but I was like I didn't remember Angela Bassett was in this movie anyway.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of the dialogue, that you said was a favorite bit, it's also one of my favorite bits. I wrote down some of the lines yes, time to treat myself, what about Italian? And she's referencing eating One of the Italian guys right later on she also comments. So she has kind of an ego, but it's kind of also one of the funny elements. The movie. She's like. This is the first time my meal has made it on the front page. So it's not necessarily that she's hiding her lifestyle. She does feel guilty about being a vampire, but she's not necessarily hiding. But I wish I was to make some mistake only because like, maybe it was garlic, I don't know he was trying to serve her actual food and it kind of like lowered or her guard Right or screwed with her senses, and then she accidentally turns them into a vampire and spends rest the movie trying to clean up her mess, whatever, while being distracted by romance, jordan Attracted to the cop.

Speaker 2:

Well, and that's like kind of her two rules is like first she doesn't play with food, aka she doesn't mix sex and feeding right, and then two is Always finish your meal or always finish your food and right the garlic, kind of does maybe even like take away a little bit of her Strength or whatever they're picking and choosing which vampire rules to you, to you, they're mostly kind of making a parody or doing away with the rules because, like, at one point she's she's flying around.

Speaker 1:

It's implied that she's like in a bat mode, even though we never see bats in the whole movie, and this only happens in one scene where she's like flying through the church. I'm like, wait a minute, she lives in a church without pressing into flames. You know, I mean, like you know, usually that's a no-no for vampires. One problem that those, for some reason, their eyes change when their mood, like I, keep changing. But it's hard to track what mood is for what emotion. Right, red is like death or murder, obviously. But then I thought green was for good stuff, like, oh, green is go, red is stop, no, like, because then the bad vampires were also turning green in their eyes and some had white eyes.

Speaker 2:

There's also the blue eyes right Then, like in her like little passionate moment, she's kind of changing between the three.

Speaker 1:

So I like the same.

Speaker 2:

I was like, oh, maybe green and blue. You know she's like calm or she's like feeling passionate, but then she like turns into red and then orange, and so it's a little Consistent in the movie.

Speaker 1:

It's hard to figure out how it works, but it's a cool element. Okay, then back to like. Breaking the rules is like. At one point you think a broken baseball bat it's gonna be the first steak that they use in the movie to kill the vampires. No, I mean like.

Speaker 2:

So here's where I said, the movie starts to fall apart after the sex scene.

Speaker 1:

This I mean it's kind of like dealing with the vampires is why it's not consistent or clear on how you get rid of them, because like she breaks Next goomba's neck, she breaks next. He shoots people in the face of the head area and that seems to do it for the low level vampires. But but then again the other vampires are like oh, let me just pull the bullets out, or let me just pull out all these wounds all over me, no big deal.

Speaker 2:

So I'm just like and she gets shot multiple times and doesn't die right because it's like so it's like yeah, except for towards the end, where she's considering suicide by sunlight.

Speaker 1:

She's holding a wound that doesn't seem to be healing on her stomach. So again, like, at no point did they get magic bullets or put silver bullets or something into his little hand cannon. There also they had like an exaggerated move where he blasts a vampire through a doorway on a stairwell because the vampire gets really close and to one of his former partners from the task force. And but that little gun which is like maybe a Beretta, maybe a 90 millimeter, like a detective gun you see in all these movies, I don't think it has the force, power to launch somebody through a doorway, totally. So again, like, maybe you know, just an exaggerated stunt moment, whatever to entertain people. But oh yeah, I don't know. I Guess we can rate the movie, but of course, like I'm super conflicted on this rating.

Speaker 2:

So I've known the feeling, but not for me it was, it was a binge show. For me it like it, at least from.

Speaker 1:

We rate the movies okay.

Speaker 2:

So we've, got we've got three ratings here. You guys, we've got binge now, which is put it to the top of your list.

Speaker 2:

Don't watch it really run to the TV and put it on later. Fingalator is like, definitely put it on the list, but you'll get around to it, yeah, soon, eventually. Binge never is. You will not get this time back. Don't watch it. We will save you the heartache in the time. But I would say, been shuffling. It's got all the things that I. I loved it. I thought it was entertaining, me entertaining. I thought it, what you know, had the romance in there. I thought that the characters fit perfectly into their roles. It just was. It was fun for me to watch for sure. So neon lights, all the things that I love. So what about you, john? What do you read it?

Speaker 1:

I think I'm playing the cop. His name is Anthony La Paglia and so, like, this movie is what made me like him as an actor. So I thought, going to this tonight like I own the DVD, you know, I took the time to seek it out on DVD and buy a copy of it Um, but I thought I was aiming for a binge now. But it ended up going into a binge later because the inconsistency with dealing with the vampires Actually bothers me now. Maybe I'm a little jaded, maybe I'm a little Spoiled vampire movie watcher, I don't know, but maybe because it didn't bother me before but it bothers me now. Yeah, I probably. I mean, I probably watch this thing like five times on TV and a handful of times on DVD, but I never it registered.

Speaker 1:

This time, I guess, for the sake of this exercise that we're doing you know what I mean right, a little critical of it. It's also a who's who of, like Italian American actors at the time Chas Pumentary is the first victim, like he's the At the beginning. They have this scenario they set up where the undercover cop is like Into, like infiltrating the mob, but then the first victim is played by like probably the most well-known of the Italian American actors in the movie goes on to have like a major career. They got a great song by Jackie Wilson playing, though I will say that it's called night and it's playing at the beginning of the movie. They also have, obviously, to really give you that Italian mafia drama tone. They got a couple songs with Frank Sinatra playing.

Speaker 1:

So, I mean, they set it up soundtrack, they got the whole movie references, you know. So, maybe, maybe that doesn't a disservice like that, it it, even though I have said on previous episodes, I love when a movie knows it's a movie and tells you it's a movie. But in this case I think maybe it weakens the story a little bit. But a lot, of, a lot of reviews if you look it up online, and also Roger and Ebert or Siskel and Ebert or whatever, because I was it rope or it's a rope or an Ebert now, but it used to be Siskel and Ebert was probably Siskel and Ebert when the movie came out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they had talked about inconsistencies, probably some of the same ones that we found anyway. So, yeah, it lands a binge later. For me these days I think that's fair. But I never know. I never know what's gonna happen when I share these magical movies with Jordan. So I'm pretty happy with her rating and it's just her fun experience all around. So no drama, no conflict, folks, really, and we're not gonna fight about whether we like the movie or not not today.

Speaker 1:

Let's see. Uh, okay, if you could recommend a movie or TV show. That's not the movie of the week. Do you have one?

Speaker 2:

I don't think so. I really know. I mean, I watched this. I know I watched things, but they weren't related to like good movies, or you know yeah, I think I may have brought it up last week or the week before.

Speaker 1:

I've been watching Spin City, which is a 90s sitcom with Michael J Fox. It's one of the last things he did recently, but if you loved White from the office, you'll definitely love Stuart played by Alan Rock, who's kind of like a very Dwight-esque character. But, pre-office, you know, I mean this is like a workplace comedy. It's basically like it's centered around the deputy mayor, but he has like a little collective team, you know, like staff writers and assistants and like a press secretary, like people that help run the mayor's office. Right, it's got Connie Britton, richard Kind, karla Gugino is in the first season. I wish he stayed around for the rest of it. Barry Bostwick plays the mayor. It starts to fall apart in season three and in season four. I'm totally tuned out Like I don't like Heather Lockley in this. I don't like Charlie Sheen in this, who takes over from Michael J Fox.

Speaker 1:

There's a great actress whose name is Jennifer Esposito and she suddenly dips out like right, when season three is beginning or the end of season two. I'm like where did she go? Which is really funny. I'm consuming like an older TV show that I didn't really watch and its continuity was on. Obviously, when it came out I was younger, I was like a kid. Why would I really pay attention?

Speaker 1:

I did watch some of it back in the day because of Michael J Fox, but I really didn't look at the adult content or anything. You know like the relationships and like whatever the sitcom is centered around. But this actress, jennifer Esposito, like disappears. Have you seen the boys on Amazon with the superhero drama or whatever I was going to say? You might know who she is because she plays like a senator in there. That helps them out in the first couple seasons. But there's a rumor I had to look on like deep, deep, deep internet message boards. I literally was like why did Jennifer Esposito leave Spin City? And it's like, oh, there's a rumor that Spike Lee told her if she wanted to be taken seriously, she couldn't be in a sitcom. And she actually ends up in his movie Summer of Sam about the Summer of Sam killer.

Speaker 2:

Interesting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know if he actually said that to her, and I don't want to. It's not gospel truth for my mouth. I'm just saying like it's the only thing I could find as to pose a reason why.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of fun to like find those rumors.

Speaker 1:

So here's the tragedy of our show or whatever, because we come up with these questions but it's hard to reach out sometimes to some of the people involved to like find these answers. Like if you could go and ask somebody like hey, why is the eyeballs inconsistent in this movie? You know what I mean. Like ask the makeup department. You know what I mean, and so the same thing. It's like, oh, I'll just have that one day If we're ever at a party. Ask Jennifer Esposito, like hey, mrs Esposito, I know this is like 20 years ago, but they'll be like what a freaking lunatic. You know what I mean. It's like, if you imagine it, like you're at a casual party and you're just like you finally get to talk to somebody and you're not going over anything relevant. You're just like, yeah, so you were in the sitcom in the 90s and like I just always thought like why weren't you in season three? Anyway, but that's where the conventions are. Those are cracking money, man. That's exactly the awkward moments where there's a panel of actors. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

And somebody brings up a question like that right, that's what the conventions are for.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so if you're listening, ms Jennifer, please drop us a comment.

Speaker 1:

Also, why is John watching old sitcoms, binge watching all these sitcoms? I'll tell you why. I had a recent episode of depression that was lasting a really long time and locked into a bipolar episode. I've been watching all these sitcoms on repeat for hours at a time to download and decompress and I'm like you know, yeah, I mean, that's the only excuse I could have for sometimes you need a palate cleanser.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sometimes you need a palate cleanser, so I mean behind the scenes.

Speaker 1:

I heard and told Jordan I take all these meetings about marketing. We talked to sponsors and affiliates about like sponsoring the show and it's mind numbing Sometimes. I mean it can be very rewarding. Obviously we love our sponsors, but sometimes it's very business and you know, sometimes Johnny is like I gotta, I gotta like reset, and then I'm crushing episodes of freaking sitcoms like you know, 15 episodes at a time, so funny. And also I guess it's also my reaction when I'm dealing with regular life pressure, like you know, family stuff or like job stuff or like anything that's going on. I mean, if I had plants coming up through my pipes I might watch one of those plant related horror movies, you know let me tell you it was I was affected.

Speaker 2:

I was not a happy camper, so it's just a weird event.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's what you know. I've got long black hair. So I was like these mother offers are going to like accuse me of like sticking stuff down the drain. I'm not supposed to and I'm not going to let them. And then, of course, the guys like do you want to see it? And I was like, and he's like it's a root fall. And I was like, oh okay, weird, who the frick thought that roots could just infiltrate your pipes? But now we know, okay.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, good for the roots, bad for the humans trying to live there? I guess, yeah, literally. What else is going on? Hey, that's it, man. So if you enjoy vampires and mafias and vampires fighting mafias and sexy French actresses and you love meatball storylines or you love Italian actors, there's a lot of really good food in the beginning of the movie. You're like I've seen the other?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've seen. I've seen some of these other John Landis movies that Jordan mentioned, like what else is next? Yeah, end up with innocent blood. Should I? Should I have mentioned that there's another innocent blood soap opera type thing or something completely unrelated? They'll have to specifically look up French vampire in America? Innocent blood.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, probably you never want to watch the wrong movie. Let me tell you we can save ourselves from doing that, been this close a couple times, so you know, watch the right one, that's it.

Speaker 1:

Just make sure you watch the right movie. That'd be funny. It's a rare occasion. Oh, I forgot to mention that we were. We were going to watch this movie called the Vanishing, but this movie has vanished.

Speaker 1:

It's actually easier to find the one from the 80s, which is a foreign film, that it is to find the 90s or so remake with Jeff Bridges and Candor Bullock and Kiefer Settlon, that version. That version is harder to find. But then some jerk recut the movie, re-edited the movie and then posted that version on the Internet Movie Archives and people are like do you have the original as well? I'm like, but also kind of a weird, that's the movie that you choose to re-edit.

Speaker 2:

Right, can you, can we get the rest of the movie?

Speaker 1:

Or I mean that's a very specific fandom like is he a Kiefer Settlon fan, is he a Jeff Bridges fan? Is he specifically a fan of the movie the Vanishing, and he loves it so much that he just wishes the pace was different and then spent hours upon hours to recut the damn movie.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, who does that? Who spends their time doing that? I'm curious.

Speaker 1:

Wow, Actually Topher Grace from the 70s show and One of the Eight with. Todd Hamilton, and there's this 80s movie that I like too. What is that one called? I can't remember, but he has re-edited some of the Star Wars movies to make them more tight with their plots and stuff Like super cuts right.

Speaker 2:

Okay, if you're trying to bust through like a big saga like that, then maybe, but I don't know. Still a stretch, though. Still a stretch.

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