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Night Swim With Starman While Talking About Best Alien Visitor Movies

January 17, 2024 Johnny Spoiler and Jordan Savage. Season 61 Episode 2
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For those eager to embark on a movie lover's odyssey, this episode promises a ride that is as wildly entertaining as it is thought-provoking. So join us on this adventure through the thrilling lanes of cinematic memory, and rediscover the movies that continue to captivate and inspire generations of viewers. 

In an intriguing shift, the episode takes us on a metaphorical road trip through the Arizona desert with John Carpenter's "Starman". Here, Jeff Bridges' captivating performance is scrutinized, along with Carpenter's deviation from his usual cinematic style. The hosts engage in a detailed analysis of the film's dramatic elements, its portrayal of alien encounters, and the movie's iconic special effects, demonstrating a deep appreciation for Carpenter's work.

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Immerse yourself in a delightful journey through the annals of cinematic history as we revisit some of the most thrilling and nostalgic films with hosts Johnny Spoiler and Jordan Savage. The latest podcast episode is a treasure trove for film aficionados, encompassing discussions from the chilling adaptations of R.L. Stine's "Fear Street" to the whimsical escapades of "Earth Girls Are Easy".

Our hosts kick off with an engaging comparison between Netflix's new "Fear Street" movie, "Prom Queen", and the original haunting series penned by R.L. Stine. They dissect the new slasher's homage to its literary roots and reflect on the trilogy's unique blend of horror and time travel. As they delve into the world of "Fear Street", Johnny's candid confession about confusing authors adds a personal and humorous touch to the conversation.

Transitioning to family-friendly realms, Johnny and Jordan speculate on the upcoming live-action adaptation of "How to Train Your Dragon", expressing excitement for Gerard Butler's potential reprisal of his role. They reflect on the beloved animated series with fondness, creating a warm atmosphere of anticipation and speculation for this new venture.

In an intriguing shift, the episode takes us on a metaphorical road trip through the Arizona desert with John Carpenter's "Starman". Here, Jeff Bridges' captivating performance is scrutinized, along with Carpenter's deviation from his usual cinematic style. The hosts engage in a detailed analysis of the film's dramatic elements, its portrayal of alien encounters, and the movie's iconic special effects, demonstrating a deep appreciation for Carpenter's work.

The conversation continues with a focus on "Earth Girls Are Easy", diving into the film's unique take on alien interactions and the enduring charm of the '80s. Our hosts discuss the theme of closure and moving on, as portrayed through a character's transformative road trip. They bring to light the movie's creative use of technology and its comparison to other works by John Carpenter, weaving in their critique with nostalgia and admiration.

Rounding off the episode is an adrenaline-fueled discussion on a nail-biting crime thriller. The hosts express their visceral reactions to intense scenes involving snake venom and buried victims. They voice their frustrations with cliffhanger endings and touch upon t

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Speaker 1:

You've stumbled into a podcast. Let me tell you which one you're listening to. It's called binge watchers podcast, even though I'm considering changing the name altogether, which you wouldn't know because it's the first time you've heard it. You have no idea this rambling Maniac and I call myself a maniac. I usually never call myself a maniac, I'm more of a sociopath. Look up the clinical definitions. Get back to me about that one.

Speaker 1:

They call me Johnny spoiler, because I have a tendency to spoil movies on accident, because I'll describe the plot, the happenings, what I love about it, and then it leaks out. I'm sorry, can't help it. I only spoil the movies I loved. Joining is always by Jordan Savage, who's so savage it may or may not be her actual name and she's a savage character from history, a living Viking, if you will, with eyebrows so strong They'll make you go blind. If you start them directly, you'll turn to stone like Medusa. Just kidding, it's true. Yeah, the savage scream queen who can review a movie without having seen it. That's what makes you're so savage. I can just tell her a movie like hey, and Then she'll be like oh yeah, exactly, exactly. See, robot jocks. Anyway, that's a movie, folks, look it up. Yeah, you're here for I don't know. Hopefully you'll get entertained. If not, will help waste 45 minutes for your life.

Speaker 1:

You can't get it back. Play another podcast you already have. Are you skipping around on iTunes right now? Are you trying to like? Why this automatically play? What is this? Whatever, home video headlines, let's see what's going on TV and film.

Speaker 1:

If you want to know, if you're a movie fan of fishing, auto movie buff, average fan or you're just bored and you can't find anything on Netflix, well, the new fear street movie from Netflix is gonna be based on the book called prom queen, which is in the same fear street universe as the other movies, because they're all based on RL Steins book series and Prom queen is pretty interesting. I've act. That's one of the fear street books that I've read. I've read this one, but I don't know if I talked about this last year like One of his best books in that series. It's like, oh, no way, that's Christopher Pike. Never mind, all right, I don't. I may not have read. Christopher Pike wrote a really cool horror novel where there was like a witch who trapped her friends inside of like a Fake version of the town's living, but I I had mistaken that, for you know what this actually sounds like a regular podcast. The podcast here is misinformed, doesn't know what he's talking about, drops fake knowledge. Wild tangents, that's people. No wild tangents.

Speaker 1:

Let's people know that's a podcast right at the top no prom queen is interesting because in that story by Earl Stein all the candidates for prom queen are being murdered. Oh, taking out one by one. Yeah, that's what moves the plot.

Speaker 2:

So if that's the, next fear street movie.

Speaker 1:

It sounds like a great adaptation. The fair street movie trilogy previously was like kind of like a slasher With some time travel, because they started in 94, that went to 78 and then went to 1600s or something. Because they're fighting like what they're fighting a dead witch through all the movies and she, like the people she killed in the 70s, came back.

Speaker 1:

We're trying to kill them in the 90s and then the people from the 90s got sucked into the 70s and then into the 1600s and I'm not sure I didn't watch the whole trilogy, so I don't.

Speaker 2:

Finally, win by the time they time travel and fight the witch for three whole movies.

Speaker 1:

I can say, dude is the. If you're a horror movie fan, the kills in fear, street 94 or whatever are freaking awesome, and as far as like horror movies on Netflix go, that's one of the best one They've ever done. If you want something a little more timid, you're looking for something that's entertaining but it's family-friendly. How about this? The how to train your dragon series is gonna be made into a lot of action movie. It's kind of a cool idea. I mean, like the dragons in that show are kind of unique. Some of them are silly, but the Nightwish one, or is that? Is that what his name is? No night wish is a finished rock band.

Speaker 2:

With everybody. He's like a nighttime dragon anyway. He's like a dragon that disappears In the cloud of lightning and smoke or something, but um, no, if that is toothless.

Speaker 1:

But that's the only dragon that I know.

Speaker 1:

There's like a Viking kid named hiccup and his dad's like a Viking and and then a jarard Butler did the voice of the dad in the cartoons and he's coming back to play the Viking or whatever in the live action. So that's cool. Yeah, I think the dragons are unique and the story was funny, so hopefully it'll be a go live action, who knows? In other news, zombie seeking the dragon. In other news, zombie sequel news. I don't know if you ever saw. Did you ever see, 28 days later, where London gets infested with zombies? It was like a viral outbreak.

Speaker 2:

I think so.

Speaker 1:

So the main character is Killian Murphy and he wakes up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is like the movie that put him like on everybody's map over here in the US anyway, and it was kind of like, um, also the first movie to introduce like fast-paced zombies, because they're really just kind of like they have like a rage virus, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

So it's not not exactly traditional Vi Vi zombie stuff, but, um, they uh, so he's like I Don't know if he, I don't know what he's and I don't know the backstory of what he's in the hospital or if I've forgotten. But his character wakes up After the infection is spread. So he wakes up into like a ghost town and Is stumbling out of the hospital going like what, where, like what happened, you know what I mean and then, like all these rage monsters are on the loose and he hooks up with some other survivors and they spend like a month trying to avoid the zombie plague. And then there was the sequel, 28 weeks later, but I don't think it had anything to do with the original producers and obviously the characters were not there from the first one. Um, and it's okay that that sequel is okay, but now they're gonna do 28 years later.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I guess we'll have to be like a different version of the virus. The virus comes back because even at the end of the first movie they were already adjusting to life with the outbreak and, um, I Don't remember if they came up with a cure in the second movie or not. Again, like the second movie is not that good. So I watched 28 days later, which you know. It's funny. What's her name? Who's the actress from speed Dang it? She's also in the proposal, center Bullock, center Bullock.

Speaker 1:

Okay, she's in a movie about alcohol recovery and I think it has the same title. It's like called like 28 days later or just called 28 days Previously. People have made the mistake of like am I watching a zombie movie? Or a rom-com about an alcohol.

Speaker 2:

You know I would make that mistake, for no, it's funny. Last week you mentioned like by like. There's movies that are really really hard to find. Like you know, to actually watch in 28 days later Is actually one of them. We were trying to watch it not available anywhere. Yeah, and it was just like impossible. We were just running into like trailer after trailer after trailer, so I'll definitely have to put it in the road tonight's movie is hard to find.

Speaker 1:

I thought surely somebody is downloaded this and scrape the internet for it. I was looking on Daily Motion Internet archives. I thought it'd be widely available on a streamer somewhere that they would pop it up like on. But no, none of the streamers had it. It's like a paid rental. Only it's Starman, what I can tell you. It's an alien visitor movie. It's the top of all those alien visitor movie lists.

Speaker 1:

If you're looking for other movies in that category, I'll share with you some of my favorites batteries not included, coneheads, or Movie called Paul, which is kind of like, with the exception of batteries not included. The other ones kind of have like move aliens, try it. Well, paul is also an alien that's trying to leave the planet, like Starman. And then in Coneheads it's like aliens trying to live among us. And then batteries not included is Kind of more observational aliens, but they're like tiny little robotic aliens that fly around like and that is like the saucers. Are the aliens, right? Hmm, anyway, so after the theme song we'll be back. We'll be talking about this movie called Starman man.

Speaker 2:

Crack open a cold box of wine or pour something cold on ice, because it's the binge watches podcast.

Speaker 1:

You. Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking about at the beginning of the episode, but I could definitely play a podcaster and a movie about a podcaster, based on the way that I started the show. I don't know, I'm not drinking enough energy drinks, clearly, let's see. Tonight's movie is called Starman. I mentioned it before the break. It's about an alien that answers NASA's message, which is intended for aliens. But the alien, he's coming down to make contact with us. We blow him out of the sky. That's right. Nothing can get into our airspace, so we shoot him right out of it. And then the alien's floating around outside of his spacecraft and he, kind of like peeping Tom's into some lady living by the lake and he's flipping through a scrapbook and there's DNA of the husband, so he absorbs the DNA. It's like you know people who are sentimental, they scrapbook and they put things in scrapbooks. So there's some hair from the.

Speaker 1:

There's an interesting choice though the recently dead husband's hairs ponytail is saved in the scrapbook and the alien scans it with his I don't know alien technology and then just decides hey, I'm just going to clone myself right here on your living room floor. Sorry, mind the rug, the Persian rug is now ruined with all the alien goo and fluids and he clones himself and looks just like the husband. Kind of scares Jenny, played by Karen Allen, and of course Jeff Bridges is suddenly there naked in this lady's living room. You know, I have a video hound book. It's called the Video Hound Golden Retriever book and it's like a basically a encyclopedia of movies, and it has three bones because it's a dog book, so there are three bones.

Speaker 1:

But I mean I'm sure hey, ladies, or Jeff Bridges fans, you're getting three bones for Jeff Bridges naked as an alien in Jenny's living room, as the star man. And I mean he was coming here to observe our culture and like, because the whole premise is based around the fact that Voyager 2 is floating around outer space somewhere with like, here's what humans look like, here's what we sound like, come down and hang out with us. And so he's playing back the messages. That's how he learns to talk, and then he's got these cool little metal ball things that are like his tools and instead of just being a floaty gooey orb thing again, as I already said, he's like a clone of the dead husband. Then they hit the road. He's got to connect with another spaceship in a couple of days, so they hit the road for Arizona. Of course that's where I mean, you know. They say like, oh, come down to Roswell, new Mexico, it's the alien super highway.

Speaker 2:

No, bro have you seen the brochure for.

Speaker 1:

Arizona. It's all happening in Arizona. Anyway, the military chase, they're chasing him, but they don't. I mean, you know, whatever. Of course the military is chasing him. They shot him in the first place. Uh, it's pretty dramatic. Yeah, I'd say it's a drama. I wouldn't call it a rom-com. The science fiction is interesting but kind of like. Yeah, I guess I guess it is pretty sci-fi in some ways. Anyway, it's the most unlike John Carpenter movie of the John Carpenter movies. If you watch this movie and if his name wasn't on it, you wouldn't assume that it was John Carpenter, because it's not really. It like doesn't sound or look like a John Carpenter movie, even though it's his movie. Anyway, we'll see.

Speaker 1:

You know, write up these messages, we'll see what our favorite actually no we got to do the Jordan S presenter savage stats from from freaking star man. So we'll do savage stats and we'll take a little okay. So I was saying I almost forgot I was trying to jump ahead. It got so excited I was really going deep, about to go deep on star man Uh, this week's movie. By the way, they're driving around an awesome car. If you're into muscle cars, they're like in some souped up thing I didn't write it down. It's like a GT or a Mustang or I don't know. That's the other thing too. It really takes a time to learn how to drive a freaking muscle car. But anyway, before I got super excited I was going to say all these things and then I was like, oh yeah, I got to give Jordan time to take over and do the savage stats of the movie. Some savage sets.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all right, I'm reading it off my phone today, so bear with me.

Speaker 1:

The best way. That's how professional podcaster does it. You know, don't tell them our trade sequence.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, seriously, a little BDS for you. Actor Jeff Bridges studied or anthology and the behavior of birds to actually prepare for this role as an alien. He figured that the alien would have no idea how to act like humans, so it'd be super primal, and so used a lot of like sudden jerky head movements, a lot of other nuances and mannerisms that typically come from birds, as a part of his personality for a star man.

Speaker 1:

See, that's interesting because I thought he studied foreign like foreign travelers at the airport or like people with developmental disabilities or something you know birds birds, yeah Well, and they like refer to him as a foreigner throughout the entire movie.

Speaker 2:

They're like he's not from here. He's not from here, you know he's the, and they just like assume he's a point I guess the.

Speaker 1:

So the weird way he walks I guess he based it on birds, interesting Right and like birds to me. Like I looked at it and like I mean I guess, maybe cause at one point it looks like he's like floating on his he must have been walking on his heels or his tippy toes or something, cause he's like his movements are definitely abstract, like again, especially in that beginning sink once where I told you it was.

Speaker 2:

It's a little naked.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's a little naked.

Speaker 2:

I do have a fun fact about that. Actually, even he walks outside the house naked and uses the first marble his hair, like the whole hair scene where his hair stands up on ends. The effect was actually created by them filming him upside down and then they matted him right side up on the background to give it more of a surreal look. And then his father, lloyd Bridges, actually did the same thing in a comedic way in the movie airplane 1980. So I thought that was interesting. His dad did a little throwback, yeah, and then you know this specific like anime hair, like he's powering up because like yeah, I don't know what the technical balls I mean.

Speaker 1:

You called them marbles. I don't know what the movie refers to them as, but basically the aliens toolkit is five or six metal spheres that are marble sized and they have incredible power, lots of functionality, but their power is also limited because it's like it uses a bunch of tremendous energy to do things Like.

Speaker 1:

One turns into a laser map that appears in the car and then it's expires. He feels threatened by a. There's a roadside situation and the girls like I've been kidnapped and the guy walks towards them threateningly with like a crowbar and he melts the crowbar. But it's too much energy just to melt the crowbar. It also blasts a tree. So these little balls have like nuclear energy Right.

Speaker 2:

And one is used to save her too, which is all wild yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So some it's a weird movie because it fills in some ways grounded by technology and because of all these alien stories that are coming out now, and the stuff that was interesting about this movie is the stuff that's happening in the movie. You go, oh, no way, the military would be on it, they'd be collecting this, and then we just had in Congress, like you know, 35 years of documents like no, this is exactly how it plays out, this is exactly what they do and it's exactly like this movie. So, like, some of the technologies seem super far fetched, almost magical, and then some of it seems super grounded, based on the things that we're hearing about in our own world, shaping our current reality. So you know, give or take.

Speaker 2:

Wild, director John Carpenter wanted to use the United States of America as essentially the back law, or our own very back law, and so the cast and crew traveled from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, then Winslow, meteor Crater and Monument Valley, arizona, east to Nashville, chattanooga and Manchester, tennessee, then upstate New York and Washington DC, and then the film company returned to California to complete the filming at the Burbank Studios.

Speaker 1:

so they went all over the country. They're like we're gonna, we got to get out there. We got to get out there in the country. Want this to be a movie on the road. Yeah, westing, to get him to his return. Take off, ship, et home bullshit. We got to get out there on the road.

Speaker 2:

It's funny that you mentioned ET, because oh no.

Speaker 1:

She's like I love how you're acknowledging my interruptions, because you're like it's funny that you said that, because, guess what, johnny is into this.

Speaker 2:

Well, I was thinking like during the movie. I was like, okay, this kind of feels a little bit more of like this rom com like more mature, like ET. Right, he's essentially an alien who, stranded on this you know planet, needs to go back to his home planet and you know he's kind of cheeky. You kind of like fall in love with this character, you know he's a super adorable. Jeff Bridges is like very likeable in this movie. Et always fell in love with ET just because he's like so cute, you know, and it just heart.

Speaker 1:

It's heartbreaking when you find out actually I know a girl that's like terribly frightened of ET, that he's scared to shit, ever imprinted in her memories that ET is a fucking monster.

Speaker 2:

That's terrifying, but these movies were. Do you agree with her? Impression or you know I love ET, so she's like she can't.

Speaker 1:

Like you know, I was going to be a fucker and like when, I mean, we used to. We were coworkers at a marketing department and I thought like, oh, oh, secret Santa, give her a fucking ET doll.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my goodness when you see him and he's like white and he's like laying in the water, I was just like Stop being just crying uncontrollably. I think he's super adorable. But these movies were essentially being made at the same time and they like they decided to do this movie instead and then ET kind of like went out and obviously crushed it and it was a super big hit. So this movie specifically was actually put on the shelves for like three years, just because they were kind of similar storylines, but not the fact that I was going to go for it.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, jeff Bridges, you can't compete with a four foot tall alien adorable alien, yeah, who drinks beer. By the way, you've seen the original cut of ET. He drinks beer and he reases. He gets all drunk yeah, it's adorable.

Speaker 2:

You know you mentioned big trouble in Little China the other day on your social media and so we got a little fun fact in conjunction with that. According to John Carpenter in the audio commentary on Big Trouble in Little China, the main reason he directed Starman was due to the box office disaster of the thing, 1982, and he needed to make a movie that was tonality the complete opposite of the thing to ensure his employability in Hollywood. So there you go, that's the sets.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so he intentionally made this movie looking sound a million miles away from his.

Speaker 2:

From the thing yeah, so that's.

Speaker 1:

so that hit kind of registered with what I was thinking earlier, right, so anyway, I didn't know she was going to justify what I was saying. Thank you for them savage stats. Yeah, before we move on, I just mentioned a couple things. There's a new flavor of sneak energy. It's called yellow snow Interesting.

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You could order their yellow snow energy mix with their new like they also have a shaker on theme or whatever. And then let's see later on the staff picks. I'll be talking about the show called mayor of King's Town. I finally sat down and watched some of it. There's two seasons available.

Speaker 1:

Jeremy Reiner is coming back for a third season, surprisingly. I mean that guy like escaped death, yeah, and is now back to acting. But we also have an affiliate code for Paramount Plus. So if you want to watch mayor of King's Town and see what Jeremy Reiner is up to, or you know, if you're like, well, you know, yellowstone is never coming back. So what else we got from Tyler Sheridan? What mayor of King's Town on Paramount Plus, which is like about, I don't know, the unofficial leaders of a prison town. Like there's like 10 prisons in a very small area near the Great Lakes in Michigan or something, and it's about the family that like unofficially runs them and then shit falls apart and like all the drama emerges from like the domino effect of one thing affecting the other in this community, in and out of the prisons. Yeah, so favorite bits from Starman. What do you got Jordan?

Speaker 2:

Okay, my favorite bit is how you just have to completely get over the hurdle that she's like falling in love with an alien who looks exactly like her dead husband and then he like gives her a baby.

Speaker 1:

so I'm just like okay, you know what, you know what's. What I also think is really funny is I didn't realize, like they talk about what's universal communication, like they're. Like you know, math is universal because math doesn't have any creed or agenda or prejudice, it's just numbers, and so we can all relate to numbers or music. Like Spielberg makes an alien movie called Close Encounters of the Third Kind. We're communicating with math and music. This movie sets another universal trend the hidden and quitted father, the absent father, is like sorry, I gotta go up and the mother ships here gotta go. Baby, by the way, you can't come with me because you'll get I don't know just integrated because you're not, you're not cool enough for you know. Like he's like maybe I'll check in on the kid in five years, Dad.

Speaker 2:

Dad went to go get a pack of six on another planet and then never came back.

Speaker 1:

The best back of cigarettes story like yeah, dad, you know went out to you know, went out to buy a gallon of milk and never came back.

Speaker 2:

Never came back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, never came back. Dad went to another fucking planet. You know what I mean. I mean, you know, I don't think they can send him to the child support payments, to fucking Mars.

Speaker 2:

Well, he did leave him with the very last marble, so maybe there's some sort of like wealth power.

Speaker 1:

Hey, if junior ever comes looking, I wish I could stick around and tell you what alien puberty is going to be like, but I'm out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, just thought that was like, I'm like so we're just going to like see the earth and, if you know, mission accomplished.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's really what he gets back to. The other aliens are cracking open like a sixer and outer space going hooked up with an earth chick. Yeah, just thought it was interesting. Another movie from the 80s taught us that earth girls are easy.

Speaker 2:

That was like a.

Speaker 1:

British accent. It's like an American girl being attracted to the English guy simply because of the accent and he could be like oh he, he's not the prince, he just works at McDonald's. But because he's got the accent, you think he's a prince, right, right, I mean he is an alien. So if you want to have, you have a bucket list like hey, just check it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

English friends charming down here is like what if I do meet an extraterrestrial, you know, check it off there you go yeah.

Speaker 2:

So just thought that was a very interesting hurdle that we had to get over. You know, you just had to get on board with the train and be like cool. So there's, she's not having an issue with this alien that came back of like that looks exactly like her dead husband and she's just like, yeah, but from a standpoint of themes.

Speaker 1:

The whole idea for her is like her character only gets closure after the road trip with the alien because she's having a hard time letting letting go of the husband, right and then, but somehow puts it to bed by the second time he leaves. She, she can. She can handle it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I guess we're here for it.

Speaker 1:

You're like no. He abandoned that child and flew 300,000 light years away.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. It just sounds like I don't know how do you like you're falling in love with someone that she was conscious that's not her husband, because she's like very much aware of the fact that like he's not her dead husband, but she's just like game for it anyways. I don't know. It's hard for me to get over.

Speaker 1:

Like this movie and a couple other movies like contact, have this idea that, like the aliens, will appear as your loved ones to lower your guard.

Speaker 2:

Makes sense. Maybe, to be well, and he does say that blatantly was like I. I took the shape of your loved one so that you wouldn't be spooked. Essentially so Good rule, I guess. What about you? What's some of your favorite bits?

Speaker 1:

Well, I wrote down the all purpose metal balls. I thought like they're pretty cool. I don't know what they're actually called marbles, space marbles, some kind of wrench, I don't know. Who knows what they who knows what they, what they are for them. I like that they set limits, even though it seems like unlimited power. In each little ball, the balls extinguish themselves. So you know, it's like a match, like if you use it to heat something, it's gone and it's clearly a fine night.

Speaker 2:

like he gives, yeah, last one to her. You know what I'm saying? Well, yeah, so so.

Speaker 1:

So again, like what is his job? So he's a surveyor of the universe, or like he's the guy that gets sent out on our recon mission. So I'm like, okay, so they hand these pilots to these alien dudes. Like they get like five or six issued in their utility belt and that's it. Yeah, however it, I mean he's a glowing ball of energy, then he gets gooey and then he's he's the clone. So where were the metal balls? Where where do the? Because they just kind of appear On the living room carpet like they roll out of his transmogrifying alien goo.

Speaker 2:

Alien after.

Speaker 1:

Like when the sack breaks, magic balls, we have magic marbles. Oh, I'd like that the city and scientists was like well informed, like. At first I thought it was kind of a joke. But then again we've had these congressional hearings now where they have like 60 pages of information and it kind of lines up but like he puts together very quickly. So it's my favorite bit. But it's also kind of unbelievable. Like he's puts together very quickly, like oh, I think they clone the dead husband and the director, the director of like the what national security agency or something he's like. Hold on, you mean to tell me husbands are dead for two years? The aliens somehow cloned him. Are we cloning people? Currently? No director, we're not currently cloning anybody, but we can assure you that he's been cloning this deal.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. You know what I mean, like so, so yeah, so it's my one of my favorite bits, but also it's a little that that actually is maybe far fetched, I guess. And then again the I got to go back to the tone of the movie, like it's very different from John Carver's movies, like if you watch the thing, big trouble, little China, even Halloween, or or they live, like there's the way he moves the camera around, like it's, it feels and looks very different from his other movies. So I gotta give him. That's my also favorite bit, because if his name wasn't on it I wouldn't have known that he also made this movie.

Speaker 1:

How do we rate the movie on our show? It works like this, folks. Binge now means get to it now, binge later, watch it later, but put it on your list. It's decent, ben's. Never you wasted your time, we've wasted your time. Don't watch this movie, although, oh, somehow Jordan convinced me, like four episodes ago, that from a philosophical point, there is no binge. Never, because something draws you in to watch the movie, even if it's bad, even if you hear us talk about it. You might inquire out of curiosity in human nature, not just to abandon your alien baby, but to then go watch. Go watch the movie that everybody says is not worth watching anyway. Jordan Savage, how do you rate the star man?

Speaker 2:

It's in between a binge later and a binge now. For me it was really good. It was cute.

Speaker 1:

We were indecisive, like she's being for some reason. Like you get, we had to make.

Speaker 2:

It's a. It's a, it's a big BM. You know, binge baby. Yeah, that's just. Yeah. I, I, in between the later and the now, like I really did like it. But yeah, you know, that hurdle still a little hard for me to get over, you know, but we're here, we're here for it. It was cute, so he was adorable. You know, I'm very like bull and that's why he made it work.

Speaker 1:

So the first time I watched this movie I had just turned the movie on and it was already playing, so I didn't know exactly what's going on. So I obviously you can kind of figure it out, but it was the diner scene where he's examining the dead deer on the top of the hunter's car and then they deal with the deer. Yeah, just this little alien magic, the concept of the value of human life or whatever I don't know. So I mean I kind of like star man, like I've had enough distance from seeing it the first time. You seen it now that I just I like it, I like alien visitor movies like this is where you go. I would say like go here first.

Speaker 1:

Yeah so for me it's a binge now. It's um, simple. I just like the idea. I like the idea. I like the people in it. No, I'm no problems.

Speaker 1:

I, karen Allen is from Indiana Jones, but she's great in this movie and I Don't know. That's what it is like, the idea that like Fish out of water story versus like a quest that they go on and it's a road trip movie. So you have one character that's clueless but has to get somewhere. In the other character that's Reluctant, doesn't want to be involved, but it's dragged along anyway, and then you throw in a little bit of alien sex. What's not to like? You know, love it, yeah, you know, and it's a two-hour movie, but it's kind of breezy. It doesn't actually feel like that long movie. This one moves well enough.

Speaker 1:

Um, oh, and also, if you haven't seen movies on film in a little long time, because of HD video and how crappy special effects are now, like film is starting to look good again. Like there was a period where we were just transitioning from film to HD and the HD was making the film Composites and when they changed the film into HD for high definition TVs, like it looked really shitty and like you could see things standing out in the frames. But Lately to me movies on film are starting to look really fucking good again. So like the way they like, right, when she just even in fact she's smoking a cigarette, watching eight millimeter film of her husband and she's playing it off her little home film reel you know player thing that she has, but we're actually looking at her. So when it's showing her face and she's smoking a cigarette it's like half lit. You're just like looking at compositions of shots Like uh and um, and I'm like, oh man, like film looks really good again because like HK videos is like so fake and like CGI is so fake.

Speaker 1:

Like In the early days of computer generated effects, it was like trying to trick our minds that like this could be part of our reality. But now it's like almost like it's intentionally Computer generated. So we know that it's fake, right, right, like special effects in 2024 Are like guess what, guys, this thing is not here. We know it's not here because it's too silly looking. It could not. There's no way it's interacting with a person in three dimensions. It's, you know, the monster or whatever dragon alien. What else would I make it? Oh, there's a show on Disney. Um, there were two movies actually. It's like the Olympians or something, where one of the kids like the son of, uh Dang it, dang it, oh Dang it, dang it. Greek mythology, poseidon. So he's, he's the half son of Poseidon in like modern day, but the all the demigods and gods and goddesses from Greek mythology, they're all there. But oh, something in the Olympians I can't remember the name is at the Percy Jackson. Yeah, percy Jackson series.

Speaker 1:

So they made a new, a new show on Disney plus or whatever, and you watch the tv spots for it, the commercials, and you're going like man, like the gorgons look like shit, the, the flying, whatever they got there. You know, whatever chimeras, whatever the freaking monsters are like, it just looks Not good. You know what I mean. Like Because it just brings you out of it like I can't. I can't suspend my disbelief, I can't believe in the imagination to the, the make-believe, because it's no longer make-believe. You're not making me believe it, you know I right. Yeah, oh man, I'll take a breath. Yeah, very punk rock, as nerdy as we can get about movies. I told Jordan at the start of this year I was gonna be like a punk rock version, why I'm mad at all the movies and I'm Pissed off at this stuff and I'm just gonna let everybody have it and I'm just like nerdy. Now, right now, in movies, where are we? Oh, staff picks. So if we watch anything else, I think I already mentioned I've been digging into mayor of Kingstown, which is a prison drama on freakin hair, mount plus, but I've also been watching this.

Speaker 1:

It's from the 90s but my Jay Fox made a sitcom about being like a deputy mayor of New York City in like the mid 90s, right before, like it's just when he first started dealing with his Parkinson's Right. Yeah, so actually if you watch the episodes closely you can see that he's like super animated and is moving a lot, so clearly like he's just developing the onset Parkinson's right. And I think, like if you watch the documentary that they just made about him, which I think is on Apple TV, like he talks about that, like that's the time where it was like really happening and he was already on medication and the part is very kinetic, like he never stops moving in that show and so you think like, oh, so what? In reality, behind the scenes he's really dealing with the disease and the medication and everything that he's on, but in the show his character just seems very animated. You know what I mean Very active character, but I mean the show is pretty funny. So it's about like him and his staff right, kind of like office s s right. There's like just the people that run the press for the mayor and try to get the mayor out of trouble every week or whatever.

Speaker 1:

You know it's spin city. Oh, do you ever? Do you ever see this show? Mm-hmm, no no but when you were three.

Speaker 1:

You're watching sitcoms on Thursday night comedy, oh buddy.

Speaker 2:

I Went to the movie theater. We decided to whoa what? Yeah, movie theater? Mm-hmm, I know, but we Saw a bad movie. So it's still an event for me. I still love going to the movie theaters. But yeah, we went and saw a night swim. Pat likes to see scary you know what, though?

Speaker 1:

I really wanted that to be good. I wanted that to be a good movie. Good, a good idea. Haunted swimming pool.

Speaker 2:

I well, I love the idea because, yeah, I mean, who wasn't absolutely terrified of the pool growing up?

Speaker 2:

You know, if you thought about sharks, like you'd actually get like somebody's, they can get you in the pool right, even though you know, yeah, I'm reason, you're just like oh yeah they can get me anywhere and so I Was like kind of hoping that it would like get give me a little bit of that feeling of like being a little bit Scared in the pool, thinking that there's like a shark underneath you or underwater creature, the common ask you to spoil it like did somebody die in the pool and there's a ghost that kills everybody else, or what.

Speaker 2:

Even no. I thought that would have been really good because I could think I could have got a little bit more on board with that. But essentially, it's like these ancient, like waters, that the spring has healing qualities, but it actually has to take a life in order to give a life, or give life in a sense.

Speaker 2:

And so like it would have been better if it was just like a spirit had haunted the pool, essentially, but it was like these, this like ancient spring, before Anybody developed there, that like had magical healing properties, and so it's like it had to always take a life in order to, and it like dated back you know generations and they figured out that, like you know, lives were taken, but it's like also has this healing quality. So, yeah, that's that's just kind of where it lost me. It was like me, you know, could have been cool because you know, whatever, but still, I've gone to the movie theater and then we watched the prisoner or prisoners with Jake Jelenhall and Hugh Jackman.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, this is an intense movie, I think I.

Speaker 2:

Make interesting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it's also got um. They miss, identify the killer, like. So basically I know what movies she's talking about. So somebody steals their children or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so two girls get kidnapped.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and Then they catch a guy yes, actually a grown-up victim of the actual people they're doing all this shit.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and he doesn't know that he's a grown-up victim. I don't think like I know.

Speaker 1:

Burn him with boiling water and stick him inside of a wall and the crazy, crazy, crazy stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's a very wild this movie's like very visceral, very intense. You feel like you're really part of a crime scene like this movie's almost like too intense to watch.

Speaker 2:

I didn't think so, but I didn't like how it ended because it just like leaves it a little bit. It's like a cliffhanger, for sure, and I'm just like darn it.

Speaker 1:

I want to see how With people is actually a super cool and genius, very fucked up thing.

Speaker 2:

What do you mean? Like Hugh Jackman's character.

Speaker 1:

Well, how they were doing like it involves like. This is so funny because we're about to watch a movie. We're about to watch a movie that's very similar, interesting cuz, like in prisoners people, it's like snake venom and people get buried alive in the ground and shit. And we're about to watch a movie where people are getting fucking, you know, buried a little buried in shit. Yeah, later this year, or actually maybe is it next week, is it already here? It might be here already. We're gonna watch another American remake of like a oh Is it? Where's it? Who made this? I'm not sure who made it. We're gonna watch the vanishing, which is like another thing, where like those are twisted dude and he puts victims in the ground and they're still alive and Messed up stuff happens.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've been on a crime spree again. Not a crime committing crimes, I'm just on a spree of watching crime movies.

Speaker 1:

So and the modern American woman. I don't know why you're so trauma bonded. What has happened? Because somebody left you and your alien baby on the side of the road and took off his spaceship. That's what it was, trauma mom yeah but that's what.

Speaker 1:

I watched, yeah, anyways all good choices, like I actually still want to, I mean no, I mean that the fountain of youth is just also has a dark side, what you know night swim. I really was hoping. I Mean if you watch the preview you think it's a haunted swimming pool on it swimming pool.

Speaker 2:

That's what I was hoping for haunted swimming pool, but no, it's like God. Yeah, it's like all All Mythological and stuff, I guess.

Speaker 1:

Well, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2:

Wait.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, did you have something to say? No, okay.

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