Hey, nostalgia aficionados and film buffs, Johnny Spoiler here alongside Jordan Savage, and we've got a treat for you that's juicier than a twist ending in a whodunit. Imagine a world where the 90s never ended, where horror flicks like "Nightbreed" still reign supreme and we're all still trying to make "fetch" happen. That's the rabbit hole we're diving into, complete with a dramatic throwback to an era when Rutger Hauer was our on-screen hero and Maurice Gibb had us tapping our toes.
Join us as we tear apart "A Breed Apart" and stitch it back together with the kind of reverence only true movie lovers can muster. We're scrutinizing every nook and cranny, from Powers Boothe's morally gray character to Kathleen Turner's unforgettable performance. Plus, we've got a tale about a missing reel that's so bizarre it's almost fiction. And let's not forget about those trained eagles—because what's an 80s movie without some good old-fashioned animal antics?
As your trusty co-pilots on this audio journey, Jordan and I are turning up the dial on true crime podcasting and setting our sights on the unpredictable year of 2024. We'll be your guides through a maze of movie reviews with our signature unfiltered commentary that's sure to keep you on the edge of your seat. So, fasten your seatbelts, and get ready for a flight back in time with a side of prophetic fashion forecasts—it's going to be one wild ride.
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Hey, nostalgia aficionados and film buffs, Johnny Spoiler here alongside Jordan Savage, and we've got a treat for you that's juicier than a twist ending in a whodunit. Imagine a world where the 90s never ended, where horror flicks like "Nightbreed" still reign supreme and we're all still trying to make "fetch" happen. That's the rabbit hole we're diving into, complete with a dramatic throwback to an era when Rutger Hauer was our on-screen hero and Maurice Gibb had us tapping our toes.
Join us as we tear apart "A Breed Apart" and stitch it back together with the kind of reverence only true movie lovers can muster. We're scrutinizing every nook and cranny, from Powers Boothe's morally gray character to Kathleen Turner's unforgettable performance. Plus, we've got a tale about a missing reel that's so bizarre it's almost fiction. And let's not forget about those trained eagles—because what's an 80s movie without some good old-fashioned animal antics?
As your trusty co-pilots on this audio journey, Jordan and I are turning up the dial on true crime podcasting and setting our sights on the unpredictable year of 2024. We'll be your guides through a maze of movie reviews with our signature unfiltered commentary that's sure to keep you on the edge of your seat. So, fasten your seatbelts, and get ready for a flight back in time with a side of prophetic fashion forecasts—it's going to be one wild ride.
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Speaker 2:You're stumbling to some kind of show. It's got me. They call me Johnny spoiler on them streets because I spoil movies, generally the ones that I love. If you've ever heard this show Then you know that's what I do. I'm joined again by the effervescent, always present, slightly tan, slightly tan Jordan Savage, who brings them savage reviews on the show. Her movie skills as a critic are so critical she doesn't even have to watch a movie to rate it. For you folks, that's what. That's what happens on this show.
Speaker 2:It's true, if you feel like we're podcast throwbacks, maybe we're doing throwbacks, throwback movies. Um, to help us define Throwbacks, I thought I would do a dramatic reading of three entries from the urban dictionary. This is always fun, mm-hmm. Okay, first and foremost, throwback is a reject when someone is an overall waste of time or space. Referring to ice fishing, when you catch a fish that is not of suitable size, you throw it back in. And Now here's the example of when a throwback is a reject when a couple of douches with Ed Hardy shirts and mohawks walk by. Look at these fucking throwbacks.
Speaker 1:That was a really good example.
Speaker 2:Perfect. But I'm thinking like, actually, the Ed Hardy douchebags are gonna be strolling through the streets and they're gonna multiply just that water because, like 90s fashion trends are gonna be the throwback fashion thing of 2024. It's gonna happen. So you're gonna see a lot of Ed Hardy douchebags walking around.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that hardy is gonna make the cut, but I'm here for the 90s throwback. But we'll see. We'll see. You're right I.
Speaker 2:Also heard that floral patterns as in flowers was raging. Also the fashionistas out there. That's not what this show is about. So that's all you're gonna hear.
Speaker 2:Second definition, talking about something, usually a good memory that happened a while back, most commonly used on social media, especially on Thursdays. I eat throwback Thursdays. Listen, there's a social media trend that I'm talking about a little while when I would get into predictions for the year. However, this is the definition that most likely resembles tonight's show, because we're doing throwback movies. So they are the memories of movies, nostalgic movies, whatever. There you go.
Speaker 2:I used to call them back in the day hits, even though they weren't always hit movies. I was like oh, it's back in the day. I noticed that maybe they stopped saying back in the day, like. That was like something for me when I was in the middle school. You know I'm saying we were like back in the day. Man, back in the day was as good as like oh, snap or Cool beans. But I don't think anybody says any of those things anymore, so they probably don't apply. Look at that douchebag walking around saying cool beans.
Speaker 2:Now here's my favorite entry in their predictionary. Get ready for this. It's a little dirty. All right, if you haven't been listening, definitely tune in now, all right? Their predictionary suggests that throwback means the remnants of a reach around administered by a flick of the wrist to one's face. Direct quote after she jerked me off, I gave her a spider-man, which should quickly return with a throwback. I got it in my eye and everything submitted by dangerous fish one on June 29th of 2019. Perfect entry. I agree with you. Definition three killer. That's what a throwback is. That's what a real throwback is that one was graphic.
Speaker 2:Like you know, those people are Really fun to read urban dictionary is the most amazing thing that has happened to the internet since maybe the creation of the meme. That's like old-school internet stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like ebombs world and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I get it like, yeah, go away. Yeah, ebombs world like good, let's get back to the Internet. Was here, let's see. Oh, I Realized that the 90s are like a, as far as more movies go, could be considered like a whole decade of throwbacks. And Now, well, obviously we love 80s war movies, but I never really mentioned the 90s, obviously besides being like Teen scream decade, right, because of screams, because I know what you know that summer, and I still know, I, I swear I have notes on something, um, I, it was open all night to the pages until I'm talking to Jordan, you know, course, isn't that how it goes?
Speaker 1:It's always how it goes, you know.
Speaker 2:Let's see. I got this little movie notebook, folks, and I like to write things down and they're supposed to be pertinent to the show that we're in. Here's the quotes from the nice guys episode. Here's some notes on how to market a podcast. Oh, here we go. 90s horror movies. Check this out. So obviously like this list could be expanded until the end of time.
Speaker 2:Not every horror was on here. You know, don't murder me because I don't mention the horror movie that you love, but look at this night breed, jacob's ladder in the mouth of madness, sleepwalkers, the craft, not a living dead. 1990 demon night with Dello blood event horizon the original cube, stigmata, dead alive people under the stairs. New nightmare, which was the one, freddy, where Freddy comes into the real world Actually there's two Freddy's. When he comes in the world, we're not talking about Freddy's revenge, which is part two, but new nightmare is when, like Freddy's essence, like possesses Robert England and like attacks the actors in a Freddy Kruger movie and it has, like the original cast from the original nightmare in it, the original flatliners. I didn't realize, I thought that was 89, but it's listed as 1990. Scream one and two, graveyard shift, tremors, candyman, the craft, john Carpenter, the vampires and it goes like I said. It goes on and on and on. So I'm really surprised actually, how many like decent horror movies that are on the 90s because historically or or categorically like if you listen to a bunch of movie podcasts People've always trashed the 90s is like not having that many great horror movies but, as it turns out, the freaking lot of good horror movies in the 90s.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I've compiled predictions. There's like all these articles because it's the new year, blah, blah, blah, 2024. So I just compiled some predictions from like when developers, which is the name of the website. I've never heard of it, but I was looking up articles and then I came across the New York Times predictions for 2024. I wrote a few down. We're gonna react to them. I'm gonna read them to Jordan.
Speaker 2:Get our reactions to like what the predictions for this year? Jocks are cool again. Hmm, because of Taylor Swift and her boyfriend Travis. What's his name? Kelsey? My first reaction at the headline when I read it was like were they ever cool? And I'm thinking like, oh yeah, 1974 to 1994, maybe the, maybe the whole, when the jock bubble probably popped. I Remember I also I mean I remember back in them school days that were still segregated social classes.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying like, but of course, just being one of them, comedians Could mingle. I was a mingler. The mingler is like a subset of like Outcasts is like the outcast of outcasts, like it's funny, like the party kids, like right, like if you're there's like the friends of the friends, but they can't access stuff that people wanted, so they were included. Right then there was, there was, yeah, the pops, the popular kids, the prep, the preppies, the original run of the Goths that likes that South Park makes fun of the redone punks. Like the mods, scooter mods, let's see.
Speaker 1:I feel like people who actually like sports don't love that Swifty. Like they don't. I don't think they are loving the Swifty sports. Like, please don't talk to me about Taylor Swift when I'm watching sports. But you know what? Okay, sure, I'm here for it. I like colored shirts underneath my crew necks, you know hmm, hmm, uh.
Speaker 2:New York Times is also predicting that Jen Xers and Millennials are gonna abandon social media altogether. I would love to. I'd like to have a mass exodus. Anybody over 21, just fucking jump off the bridge, or you know what I mean. Or like I Guess it's a bad analogy, not jump off a bridge or go off a cliff, because. But I just want, like a Mass delete of apps. That would be like if a million people woke up tomorrow suddenly like there was a million less people on Facebook or Instagram or whatever the other ones are. Like. And if you spend a lot of time in marketing is your day job, you begin to love social media as just as merit, like it's like, yes, yeah, it's like being a burger flipper I flipped, I flipped a thousand burgers. I no longer care about individual burgers right.
Speaker 2:Because I flipped thousands of them. I don't care what cheese is on it, you know what I mean. Like ground beef is ground beef. So so, if you're in social media, marketing in like it's really funny to talk to clients because you have to get them excited about campaigns and or like even Folks you want to peek behind the curtain.
Speaker 2:Last year sucked it sucks for the podcast, except for my personal life, except for me professionally, like things are not going well and I've been on these interviews and I'm just, I'm just like I have no passion for it. I'm like on these interviews and they're like you know why are you the best marketer for the job? And I'm just like, well, marketing is just marketing. You know. You know what I mean. Like Facebook cans are free. Like Facebook things are Facebook things. Instagram is Instagram. Like what is? It was funny about companies that need to do marketing. They have no goals. That there's. This is called key performance metrics or KPIs folks. Yeah, baby Jordan's having like a like I'm introducing like a PTSD reaction because she knows Jordan knows exactly what the hell I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just know what the hell I'm talking about, but um let me breathe it but I mentioned, the only theme for this year is punk rock, like Transparency, and if there's bullshit, we're not gonna take the bullshit, we're definitely gonna bring it up. I saw this amazing interview with cat Williams where he was just like he just like told the dirt on all the comedians and the other comedians are like they didn't deny it, but they obviously had their like reaction videos. You know, I mean, this just happened and I was like what a good theme for this year where you're just like, yeah, the shit sucks, here's why it sucks. And if you don't like that it sucks, stop making it suck for everyone.
Speaker 1:Out everybody, yeah and just yeah, put it away.
Speaker 2:Everybody's out this year. Progress networks that have screwed me over. Satellite radio companies have screwed me over Startup companies in New York that have screwed me over. I'm gunning for you. I have nothing to take. What do I have? An IP that I had to buy back, like it? Like I'm dealing with a freaking Record company I didn't realize that was that much of a rock star, but I guess I am. You make us buy back our own IP. Put your ads on the show. If you actually listen, that'd be good. Why are you sponsoring my show? Tell me why, literally anyway.
Speaker 1:Don't tell him.
Speaker 2:Tomorrow's emails are gonna be really fun. Like you know, the dog food company is backed out. John cuz, you're a lunatic. Okay, yeah, good, good, go feed somebody else's pets. Let's see Tonight's throwback movie. Are we there? Did we arrive there? Ranting jokes? How many, too many? Oh yeah, we're like fuck, I'm chewing up 10 minutes of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What kind of night are you having?
Speaker 1:Jordan Still day here, I guess.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's right. We're in different time zones, it's like yeah.
Speaker 1:I just got off work 17 minutes ago, so this is my wind down, you know.
Speaker 2:Except I kept reminding you of work for like 20 minutes To chip like it's not just like. Last year was about like positivity to a level of psychosis, and this year is. I don't have any patience or time left to be yes, it out of my way. Oh man yeah anyway.
Speaker 2:Okay, tonight's movie is called a breed apart. It's about a veteran turned Conservationist and a widow who meet a mountain climber hired to steal the bald eagle eggs. Rucker, how are? Is the Vietnam vet that we're talking about? He's the main dude. You might know him from a little movie called Blade Runner. How about flesh and blood? How about the hitcher, blind fury or Split second? That's one of my personal favorites and I included on the list one of Jordan's the Buffy, the Vampire Slayer, the movie edition. He plays the Dracula guy in there Powers booth.
Speaker 2:He's a celebrated TV and voice actor. Might have seen him in Tombstone, red Dawn and I recently just discovered that he does one of the voices on Ben 10. I didn't know that. I didn't know he reached all the way into modern pop culture Because he's like a career TV actor. He's been around in I mean he's dead now, but he was in the game for like 40 years or whatever.
Speaker 2:Kathleen Turner you might have seen her on body heat steaming up the screen. He was also Peggy Sue. Peggy Sue got married. She was the serial mom killing everybody in serial mom. She's in the drama comedy war the roses and romancing the stone, and also Brian James is in this movie and Donald Pleasants. Donald Pleasants, you might know as the doctor of the original Michael Myers, loomis Loomis. There you go in the original continuity of Halloween and it's first five sequels. He might have been in number six yeah, he was a number six and Brian James. Brian James, I know, is like the Secret villain of another 48 hours and a detective in 48 hours, and also he plays one of the Androids with rector Howard and Blade Runner, or replicants Sorry, fancy word for the word that Blade Runner came up with for androids. Let's see. Yeah, that's the movie we're talking about. I don't know if Jordan has anything to contribute to this conversation about the movie, because I don't know how savage her stats are.
Speaker 1:It's not even my stats, it's just the stats of the world on this movie. There's little to be told about a Breed of par outside of what John just did, this Fantastic cast and some of their works of art throughout their careers. I've just very few stats on this, one of them being the movie feature Score was composed by Maurice Gibb. You probably know him from the iconic band the Bee Gees. They did use some Majestic what is the word I'm looking for trained Eagles, obviously for the, for certain sequences in it. And then I think the most interesting thing about this movie Is that when they had shot and filmed the entire movie all over, of course, north Carolina when they were sending all the film back, one of the four Reels never made it. And so, if you've noticed, or if you watch this movie before, or if you're even looking at reviews now there's a lot of, I guess, reviews and there's people who are critical about how a lot of the storyline and the plots don't necessarily necessarily complete.
Speaker 2:It's only noticeable in one part of the movie, right before the love scene. But between the vet and the widow, like there's a really intense, heated argument and it feels like we're missing how the argument started and I'm like there's frames dropped here, I didn't know like a whole reel of film, but like with my own, like I was like watching it going oh, there's stuff left on the cut-of-room floor or there's stuff missing from the scene, and so I wonder if that lines up with what you're saying. Yes, the soundtrack note is cool too. This is why, because it sets the mood for the time and place the movie takes place in. Oh the Bee.
Speaker 1:Gees chef, kiss yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2:What was the other thing you just said? What was your third point?
Speaker 1:The trained eagles.
Speaker 2:Oh, the trained eagles. I had no idea because they all look like wild animals, but this movie is filled with birds. Well, I didn't forget that. I was like, oh, I should bring up how many birds there are, because you just mentioned trained eagles. I didn't know you could train an eagle, because I thought eagles were like they're on Well, back then, they got their own agendas, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, and back then they were like for sure on the endangered species list, so it was like pretty relevant for its time for, like, conservation and you know other things that are within the movie and the plot. So that's kind of why people did love it, although it didn't perform like the best when it came out. But yeah, like you know, the eagle population bald eagle population is no longer, you know, they're thriving, so they're no longer like on the endangered species list, but they were at the time of this movie, so people loved that. But, yeah, because of one of the reels never arriving to LA, they had to reorganize around the missing scenes during the editing process, which is exactly explains what you had noticed in terms of like, why some of the plots or conversations are incomplete. They also refer that to like Maldon not having a backstory. It is very like briefly discussed, it's not talked about in detail. I feel like, though, they still did a decent job of kind of painting the picture of why he is the way he is. But yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2:Before we go to our favorite bits, I want to remind everybody that we're an affiliate with STARS, which is the movie network. They got like a thousand movies in their catalog and I discovered today they have all five of the original Planet of the Apes, rubber mask, monster movies that Jordan loved so much. So check it out. I think their offer right now is like $3 a month for three months, which is $3 a month For those five movies alone. Freaking worth it. But there's, of course, other stuff in there. I saw spotlight was in there. I saw a bunch of the there's that werewolf versus vampire series, underworld. I saw that there's. Some of the underworlds were in there. There's a lot of killer stuff, guys. Anyway, so go grab that $3 offer. The link's in the podcast notes. It's on the blog. There's actually a button on our website, whatever You'll find it. Oh, now we've arrived at the favorite bits from our freedom part.
Speaker 2:The bits the by the way, I like tight, good facts. I like the trivia being nice and tight.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:That was awesome.
Speaker 1:Get, in get out right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would say you know why? Because if they really care about the movie, go watch it. I'd be here as jazz about it for 45 minutes. Go freaking, find the movie then, and then you'll learn all the other stuff about.
Speaker 1:Well, in here is my thing. Sometimes, knowing the stats like it does create some bias, and I've been told-. It creates buzz right or bias, or buzz Bias, bias, bias. Some of them creates buzz Some-.
Speaker 2:The facts. I thought the favorite bits are what creates the bias.
Speaker 1:I feel like the bits create the buzz you know, so a little floppy there. I really like what's his name's character? Let me figure it out Powers Booth's character. He goes by, I forget whatever his character's name is.
Speaker 2:I call him the betrayer.
Speaker 1:Yeah a little bit of a betrayer, so Mike is his name.
Speaker 2:Oh, mike yeah, I mean the whole- who comes in as like a celebrity photographer, right, like as if he's working under the guise of like oh, I'm like a national geographic guy, tell me about your war stories, I'm gonna bang the local reporter.
Speaker 1:Bang everybody in this movie. Great pictures of Eagles, I guess he didn't bang you know the main character, but Stella, stella, so I was like, but he's like a little, you know almost so close, almost.
Speaker 2:He's like I am kind of bored, I live in a swamp. We're not a swamp. I guess this is the edge of a lake. You know, in a small town, and she's the only proprietor, because all the hillbillies buy everything at her boat shop. Like you can rent the boat, you can rent the, you can buy the bait, rent the boat. He also sells Coca-Cola what else? She's got the beers. She's got the caps on hand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all the things. But why I like him is because, oh, she may have it made this.
Speaker 2:Airbnb because he stays in her house the night. He's got up with her Well, and I don't.
Speaker 1:I do like that he kind of alludes to the main guy, jim's character, like that he's been over there and like slept over at her house, and like it obviously gets everybody in a tizzy.
Speaker 2:Okay, Jim's a wild man and his scent is everywhere. Okay, this guy has marked his territory. You know he's coming from a mile away. That guy's uh. Well, I said wild, We'll get into it a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, for sure. I just like that. You don't really know if Mike is a villain or if he's an ally.
Speaker 2:He plays both in the movie and that's one of the best parts of the mission. You don't know. Till almost the third act, you don't know which way it's gonna go.
Speaker 1:Well, and that's what I love is, like you know, he's there on a mission to like steal these eagle eggs, eggs, but he like kind of for a personal and shallow reason.
Speaker 2:Finances next rock climb some rich guy paid him like 250,000 go get me the bald eagle eggs. There's a blinking you miss it scene, though, or you think that the rich guy just wants to eat the egg, like so if you go back to the movie, you look at the eggs, there's like missing egg spots, right. You're like, oh, those are just the exotic eggs he hasn't collected yet, right. But then they specifically have a cutaway scene.
Speaker 1:At the end of the movie where he's eating an egg, and so you just take it.
Speaker 2:You take a minute. It's not explained in the movie, but your imagination suggests oh, he's actually he's eating them.
Speaker 1:It's interesting that you say that I that was not a possibility when I was thinking it and when I was watching it, and then now you say I'm like, yeah, that's his obsession, obviously, to do the egg collection, but it's like I'm sure he just like can't help himself from eating all these Exotic eggs yeah.
Speaker 2:Take it to the next step. She's eating, yeah, yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1:You know, so weird, yeah, no it was yeah, there was Lots of good stuff surrounding, of course, mike's character. I, I don't know, I love Jim as, like this wild man and who's like Doesn't really know a lot about, like specifics of the wilderness, but he knows enough to like obviously, be out there and be in the wild and, like you know, he's thriving off the land and protecting all these animals.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, and that's my first favorite bit is like the first impression is that he's a wild nut on an island, that he's like a veteran who like Just completely snapped like he's protecting the animals you know as like a pen you think like as a penance or a reference to like how he dealt with coming back from the war. But then, like you find out, oh no, there's like it's all very specific, it's like actually an animal century where he started and he got his the. He was gifted the land from his parents. It's actually in re. It's really his island. Like you, you think he just has like taken up residency.
Speaker 2:In this island, yeah decided just to keep other humans away, which, if it's public land, he can't do, and that's why you think he's just a wild nut bag. But then you find out oh no, these are, this is his land, his animals. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's his private property.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you and the movie doesn't tell you for a while. So you're kind of like you're going back and forth about like what's going on, you know.
Speaker 1:I thought he was gonna be the thief in the very Beginning scene, right as the opening credits happen. Because he's up there. He looks like he's scheming, he's got his like.
Speaker 2:Crossbow and he's riding a horse like he's out of the ages and.
Speaker 1:Up there petting the eggs, the eagle eggs, with the eagle behind him. I was like, okay, so here's the thief, but he's not, you know so he can speak bird obviously.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm pretty like um, what is it? Oh, I love that when he shot out the safety cable and Mike fell the rock climb, he knocked the rock climb down into the waterfall. Like pretty dramatic, because you see him like calculating, like what is the chance that if I knock him down he won't die? Versus he will die, versus. Like I'm gonna exaggerate and get my point across, right, because like again, like I don't want, it's not like Rambo cheesy or like Rambo extreme, like 80s action violence, it's like they do push Jim, like there's some hillbilly hunters who do push them to a certain line and then he does use violence.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, they were being so excessive. You see all the dead birds in the beginning of the movie. I was so heartbroken, I was like so devastated. I'm like you can't just be shooting all the birds out of the sky. What are you gonna do with them? And there's just a big pile of dead birds. Made me so mad. So those hillbillies got it um okay.
Speaker 2:So then there's the hookup scene in a barn. Right there is. Yes, I don't know this is like a blinking, you miss it during the montage of the love making, but did you see the so talking, the toe sucking? Oh yeah, absolutely. I was like wait a minute.
Speaker 2:So then, I'm sitting there going, did rucker hower and Kathleen Turner actually hook up in this movie? Because? Or is it just edited that well, the filmmakers do such a good job of just slapping that scene together? I'm like because even during an improv, I mean like, is this why we have the sex coordinators now on set? Or is this some old school days where it was just like, hey, what happened happens and we just get cuts together with it and like the only people that know, or the sound guy, the boom guy, the guy who shocked the movie, maybe the director, the production assistant intern that was on set, the? Can you imagine like being the intern? Like you're like Bobby, the intern goes home. They're like, oh, you know how was your day at. Like you know New York film school. It's like, well, I got to go out and we were in the woods. There's guys chasing eagles and hunters and, uh, at one point rector howers stuck happening to his foot in his mouth. It is like tan, what an education.
Speaker 1:Hmm so good. I also love that the reporter kind of got what she deserved, you know she's like.
Speaker 2:Well, first of all she's on a back a little too easy.
Speaker 2:He's not kind of a pos, because there's kind of like he has a redemptive arc. He decides not to sell the, the Sell the eagles out to the rich guy. He backs up the family, he helps them uh, celebrate the son's birthday, which is actually one of the only scenes where they deal with like Also like a bipolar type issue, with Jim's character like rector how's character? Because he was like setting up for the family to come on that day, but then the day finally arrives and he's like having he's like having a, an episode and he can't actually deal with it. When they get there, even though he's been thinking about it, I'm like, oh, it's anxiety, it's all these things.
Speaker 2:Um, but yeah, after hooking up with the reporter, she comes back in the end and he's covering up the story because he doesn't want them to expose the island to like the whole nation or whatever. So they leave him alone, leave his buddy alone, but then, like, he ends up dating or it's implied that he's gonna now date. You know they're gonna have a more permanent relationship. So, yes, and he throws her the.
Speaker 1:And he throws her the bone of still getting her a story which is telling on the billionaire egg collector.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, there's this dude out there. You know, like egg or mick mickerson, egg eggerson, you know, I don't, I don't remember the character's name. We ate the egg, but, uh, that, that was so could I mean? I mean if there's one dimensional character like donald pleasant is a good actor, but the, the, the, the plot device is one dimensional, like hey, I'm so rich, I need all the eggs I need all the yeah, I need all the eggs and you're the guy who's gonna go get the eggs.
Speaker 2:Um, okay, we have our own custom made rating system. If you've ever heard an episode before, you know it's binge now. Watch it now, binge later. Get to it eventually Binge never. You can't get the 90 minutes to two hours of your life back while you waste your time. Where does this movie land for you?
Speaker 1:It was a binge now for me. I loved Rudger Hauer. I just feel like he kind of has this like little bit of a weird, like kind of sort of cheeky it's still attractive vibe to him. So was really drawn to his character. I like that he had some conflict, yeah, and I'm here for the bald eagles. So binge now for me. So it was quick, it went quick.
Speaker 2:So it's a binge later for me only because I think like if you're going through the record of the Hauer catalog, eventually you get to a breed apart because you've already seen like Blade Runner. You've already seen Buffy, the Vampire Slayer, blind Fury, the Hitcher, split Second, which is one of my all time favorites. Like he's really eccentric in that movie. You'd probably like him in that. One school, like all of England, is flooded. He keeps eating chocolates for the caffeine. He gets bigger and bigger guns because he's like a detective and he's he's psychically linked to some monster in the subway that's killing everybody in one in the future or whatever after the world's flooded.
Speaker 2:It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Well, and to your point, if it was reversed, if this was the first thing that you had seen of his, then it's going to send you down that rabbit hole, and so I'm like all you're saying this could be a good starter movie, like if it was like is he more eccentric in other movies?
Speaker 2:Is he more dramatic? Like what other movies is the student? Who is this guy? Yeah, I mean I can't say like Rucker Howard is like one of my all time favorite actors and he he is. He's known for Blade Runner because he improvised like the most memorable lines, like ever. He says we're all just memories lost in time. Like tears in the rain is what he says in that movie. And it's when his character is dying and in that moment, if you watch that movie, it's like he's encapsulating the whole human experience in this nine minute sequence or whatever, right? So it's like, unlike, people are always talking about him in that movie. Obviously, yeah, right, before before we came on tonight I was like who is my favorite actor? And Rucker probably ranks like in the top three.
Speaker 2:So that's pretty close to not being like I don't know how many movies I've seen a lot of them, but I'm going to mark it down I'm going to mark it down to see how many top threes You're like when he says put Russell seven episodes from now, like hey, john, when we started this thing back up again, you said Rucker Howard top three.
Speaker 1:I'm bookmarking this moment for future.
Speaker 2:But eventually they're still good. Oh you might. I also have seen him in more recent times in a movie called Hobo with a shotgun. He's a lot of eccentric characters but he's a really interesting actor to watch on screen, pretty captivating. Oh, okay, about the fans.
Speaker 2:I got asked to make a video about the Cyclops in Krol because I had made a short video about our crawl episode and put it out there in like the stratosphere or whatever the internet land when we did our crawl episode. But then I was like he's like do a reaction video specifically about the Cyclops. I'm like I don't like to repeat content, like I feel like we already sat down and we already told you about the Cyclops and we told you about Krol. So I was just like dude, go find the episode where we talk about the Cyclops in Krol, because we've already done it. You know what I mean. But I guess I could just easily say like the Cyclops is the coolest character in the whole show, who gives up his immortality to help the humans kill the freaking outer space demons. I mean staff picks other than the movie of the week. What's really funny. I did not know what she was going to say. A binge now on this one, because I was conflicted about actually picking this one because, again, like, I don't think it's the strongest Rucker Hauer, even though you said it's a good intro movie to his, to his acting style, which is good to know because my I'm I have my we're talking about biases a little while ago. Actually, I have my already like imprinted stamp of what I thought the experience would be like. So you read it much higher than I thought. You know what I mean, right, this was an iffy choice for me, only because the movie I had wanted to watch has like disappeared from like you can't watch it, which is like why it's really scary that every company's like not printing DVDs have like decided this year they're going to stop printing movies.
Speaker 2:I wanted to watch the electric horseman. The only reason the electric horseman was on Netflix for the last few months was because Robert Redford and Jane Fonda did a sexagenarian couple in their sixties rom com or drama or something that Netflix had produced. So they had that movie on Netflix and they're like oh, let's go get their original romance movie. They were in this cowboy romance thing that they were in. However, it has a great title. It's called the electric horseman. It's about a rodeo cowboy that's like semi retired and he's having a problem with drinking and he keeps getting pulled out to the conventions and just like introduces brands of cereal and cars and the other rodeo riders. But his suit lights up like that's the gimmick, like his suit has to light up right to make him electric, right Like Christmas lights, and his thing lights up. And so I'm depressed on New Year's or whatever, I'm texting Jordan. I'm like have you heard of this freaking movie called the electric horseman?
Speaker 1:The plot sounded so good too.
Speaker 2:So he runs into an old rodeo horse that's being mistreated by the company that sponsors him to go around and do these promotional events and I'm like, well, obviously we discussed earlier in the episode how I feel burned by sponsors. I'm in a punk rock mode Now I'm watching him. We've got an old rodeo cowboy who is screwed over by a company and then the horse gets screwed over by the company. He's like I'm going to set this horse free. So then he steals the horse. They go gapping off, but he's trailed by a reporter, by Jane Fonda, who's like capturing the story of what's going on. Of course they're going to fall in love. Of course they're going to fall. I mean, this is an AB plot, but Willie Nelson plays one of his handlers. And then they incorporated Willie Nelson's song you know, mama's, Don't Let your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys into the movie.
Speaker 1:Mama's, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that just cost us like $300,000 right there, do you see? No, but I'm like, how much did it cost the movie If we had done the electric horseman. I was going to try to find out how much did it cost to include Willie's song, because there were two Willie songs in that movie at least and they played the Mama's song like three times at least. I'm like each one of those times. I'm like how much money.
Speaker 1:But do you think they cut deals like for him to be like? I don't know? I mean, I guess maybe they pay extra because he's in the movie.
Speaker 2:It's possible that, because of Willie's stardom and his music, it's probably because of the music rights might have something to do with the fact that the movie is not widely circulated, because of the cost to like license.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that's his most popular song, but it's one of his most popular songs and that's like. That's like having a movie with a Queen song in it. You know what I mean, or a commercial with a Queen song. It's like. You know Willie Nelson. He's like in his nineties now but he's one of the greatest living country singers of probably all time. You know he comes from the highwaymen, with Christopher Stockperson, johnny Cash, waylon Jennings, crack open a little bit of country. Hmm, now we're nostalgic. Now Got there eventually that's also one of my favorite songs of all time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, anyway makes me think of Lake Lake Pal days, for sure, like but this movie Electric horsemen is so good and so simple a plot.
Speaker 2:Radio Cowboys, angry that they mistreated a horse, kidnaps the horse to set it free. Like in, like in film school, in In like the first month they go keep it simple, keep it as simple as possible. Tell the best story, like keep, but keep it as simple as possible. I'm like he doesn't radio Cowboy Upset about how they mistreated a horse, steals the horse. That you know. You know what I mean. Like they could teach it actually if they wanted to in a screenplay course, but obviously they'd have to.
Speaker 2:I don't know where they're gonna track down a copy of the movie. I'm really worried actually about movies. Like I hope I don't know if they're. I I've I've googled before. Like are there nonprofits that are like saving copies of movies because they're just gonna Literally disappear, which is kind of a crazy thought. Anyway, I mean, and not the industry. The industry is not doing anything to help movies right now either. You know they're almost making it like that they are, that it's all absurd that movies should not be preserved because the way they're making them now, yeah, extremely tumultuous, so um, oh.
Speaker 2:And then it suggests in a farious reason, to let DVDs and VHS and all that stuff disappear physical media to go away because they Want to boost the streamers. You know, they mean I was like, oh man, it's all, it's all correlated. Anyway, I don't want to get too political, just love movies. There's other things. I mean it used to be a movie show only, but I'm like, oh no, there's so much else going on anyway. What have you watched?
Speaker 1:I Hopped on the bandwagon with everybody and watched salt burn and it's just been burned in my head since I watched it so what's it?
Speaker 2:because you heard a rumor about a bathtub scene, of course, or how nihilistic and sociopathic the entire movie is it was both I.
Speaker 1:Everybody who recommended it to me was incredibly vague. It was all three like tied. Yeah, I'm like okay, jacob Lordy is very good-looking, and when you talk about his bathwater, I'm immediately.
Speaker 2:Someone made a candle, supposedly.
Speaker 1:I saw that, yeah, it was like interesting, this has my attention, um, but yeah, it was definitely worth a watch. My boyfriend couldn't sit through it the entire time but I feel like he kind of popped out at the worst opportunity and I feel like, if you hang out, this movie makes me feel weird, but I'm gonna make them watch it because I did like it. I did like it. Obviously I, you know, I'm still thinking about it and I think that there's like the whole intention behind it is to like still be thinking about it and, yeah, very interesting coming of age movie, if that's what you want to call it, but I had a great time watching it. Yeah, and you know I'm on my true crime stuff, but we, we don't have to talk about a whole lot of that right now.
Speaker 2:You know we don't want to, but hey, catch up with us on a cast box, leave us a comment, subscribe. If you haven't, maybe we'll make some more podcasts. I don't even like to call them podcasts anymore. I might just say show. Like I'm tired of that word, even though it's in the title of our show, because I thought that was funny. But it was also a keyword. What's a keyword? If you don't know marketing, I can't help you. Like there's a reason. They're like it's the pot binge watchers, podcast podcast, because podcasts always in the word. So then, like apps, double up the word podcast. But I'm like, yeah, because the greatest keyword and podcast where you Google something is the word podcast. And I'm like it's both a joke and keyword. Figure that out. Um, yeah, dang.
Speaker 1:First episode of 2024 baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm in a very dark place and so this is gonna be a dark year. We're gonna watch a lot of movies, but I'm gonna be kind of mean or not mean, just kind of like it's a better word buckle up, baby buckle up. It's gonna be a ride.
Speaker 1:The safety belt might not be working, so just you know, get loose. Well, apparently, the airplanes are broken.
Speaker 2:Anyway, nobody's been fixing them. I don't know if you heard the stories where, like the bolts are literally falling out entire sides of planes.
Speaker 1:You're just falling out during, whatever just don't go up to you know, just don't go up that high, it's fine yeah.