Valhalla Rising To Space! Viking Movie Reactions: An Epic Comedy Adventure With Fantastic Twists (EXTENDED)

Ever found yourself smuggling a Hot Pocket into a movie theater for that perfect snack experience? Well, you're not alone! Johnny Spoiler and Jordan Savage here, taking you on a tasty journey through the buttery, crunchy world of cinema snacks. We laugh over Jordan's passionate affair with movie theater popcorn and jalapeños, and share a tale of youthful shenanigans involving Star Wars figures and stop-motion that'll have you in stitches. Things get a bit more serious as we tackle the peculiar new life-size M3gan dolls and weigh in on the whispers of a James Mangold Jedi origins story – are we ready to uncover the secrets of the Force?

Hold onto your Viking helmets as we sail into the atmospheric realms of 'Valhalla Rising,' with the mesmerizing Mads Mikkelsen leading the charge. His silent performance as a warrior thrall in the midst of spiritual upheaval grips us as few words could. We'll lead you through Mikkelsen's illustrious career trajectory, touching stars like 'Doctor Strange' and grounding in 'Another Round,' ensuring you walk away with a newfound respect for this chameleon-like actor. Plus, don't miss our hot take on whether 'The Matrix' should hit pause or plug back in for a fifth installment. If you're ready for a movie discussion that's as rich and varied as the snacks we adore, then this episode is your ticket!

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Have you ever pondered the lengths people go to emulate their favorite animals? Grab a cup of your favorite beverage and join us as we explore these intriguing concepts. We'll take a deep look at a Japanese man who dedicated a year's salary to constructing a lifelike Collie dog suit, and I'll take you on a trip down memory lane to my high school days as the vibrant blue and yellow Bronc mascot.

We'll also take a moment to remember and honor the recently departed celebrities that have touched our lives, such as Paul Reubens, Angus Cloud, and Treat Williams. We'll relive their unforgettable performances and share personal reflections on how their loss has impacted us. Moreover, we're diving into the 2007 movie, Pathfinder, breaking down its historical accuracy and unique references to other fantasy films. We'll debate the exaggerated tone and creative costume choices, making for a lively discussion you won't want to miss!

Chewing the scenery we bring up the implications of a dried out Colorado River. We'll investigate the broader implications of this scenario, adding a new dimension to our viewing experience. 
And as we pick apart movie marketing tactics and their influence on viewers, we'll share our thoughts on an array of films including the "Barbie" movie and the unexpected reactions it sparked. Finally, we'll address that Facebook ad that riled up one of our listeners and discuss the profound power of marketing. Come along for this wild ride of eye-opening discussions and heartfelt tributes.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Appropriately. I'm wearing sunglasses. You won't see me cry on the outside. Clowns cry on the inside as their life burns down around them. You'll never see my outside tears Unless you pay me money. That's a whole different website. It's definitely not a podcast.

Speaker 1: 0:23

Have you heard about these human zoos? I'm like not zoos filled with humans, but humans dressed up as animals, portraying the animals that children might see at zoos. Now, the pictures and the videos online would Make you make you feel like or or that or. They're saying supposedly somewhere in Asia hey, the zookeepers are acting like animals in animal suits. This bear has no ass. You know what I mean? Like it's a man in a suit. Look at the folds of the legs. Uh, all right.

Speaker 1: 1:00

This is why I bring it up, not just to have something silly to say at the top of a podcast, because if I fail as an actor, if I fails a screenwriter, if I fail as a director, if I fail Well, if I fail as a podcaster, tbd like then my only recourse is to Find out where these zoos are and get hired To portray an animal as a human in an animal costume. Okay, I love the concept of these zoos. I think we have extinct animals. Just stick a man in a suit. The other animal related suit thing that I came across recently was Did you see the guy in japan that supposedly built himself, uh, lifelike Collie dog suit so we can call around as a dog?

Speaker 2: 1:55

I think I did see something like that. I'm like sorry, like an insane amount of money.

Speaker 1: 2:00

I don't know how much yen, but it was like 30 000 american or something like that, or like a year's salary. American to like Make himself a dog.

Speaker 2: 2:09

I mean, I guess you could be anything you want these days, but if you were to go to a zoo, what animal would you be?

Speaker 1: 2:18

You know what my mind instantly said and I've never related with this animal, but I do have a shirt with the animal on it my mind went to zebra. Okay, oh, okay, okay. That unbridled thought. You know what I'm saying? Because, because, like what animals do I do? I associate myself with the nature the bear, the pig and the frog. I would have never said horse, vibra, donkey, although we have. We have talked about how wait, have we met we? It has to have come up on this show before that. I was a high school mascot. I was a blue and yellow horse called the bronc.

Speaker 2: 2:55

Oh, I think you did tell me you were a mascot and that you got all the ladies.

Speaker 1: 3:00

You know mascot but like never, so, maybe, so, maybe I have like a mascot thing, and so every time I'm like a video with a mascot, like who knows. However, the I mean the guy says it's a non-sexual thing. He just wants to crawl around as a dog. He wants to be somebody's puppy. Okay, jordy's doing air quotes. She doesn't believe it for a bit.

Speaker 2: 3:20

All right yeah, non-sexual Okay.

Speaker 1: 3:23

Speaking of sexuality, you stumbled into a podcast. It's a binge watchers podcast with yours truly, johnny spoiler. I only spoil the movies that I love or the ones I can't stand, if I'm being honest with you and Jordan savage, the savage scream queen herself. Who's so savage she can spoil a movie without having seen it. We're here, we're brought to you by tonight. We're brought to you by manscaped, which is the mans grooming product. You can get 20 off at manscapecom with our code bw pod. We're also brought to you by the shoes for short kinks at kinsuricom. Ford slash binge. You can use our code binge. Learn more about our sponsors later on in the episode. But right now we're gonna skip on over to home headlines. Teardrops are gonna fall at first. Appropriately, I'm wearing sunglasses. You won't see me cry on the outside. Clowns cry on the inside as their life burns down around them. You'll never see my outside tears, unless you pay me money. That's a whole different website. It's definitely not a podcast. We lost p we Herman. We lost paul rubens.

Speaker 1: 4:40

We don't do the in memoriam very often, but I thought we should do it anyway, so we also also have to acknowledge some of my favorite movies of his. Obviously it was on a tv show called peewee's playhouse. That's where he. That was his. I mean I think he had the character before. I think he did the character on stand-up before he got the tv show. Then he got the tv show, he did a movie called peewee's big adventure. He also did big top peewee. Recently he did big holiday on Netflix. But um, anyway, the he's also in Batman Returns as the penguins dad, so he's also in blow. Is the hairdressing drug dealer friend of the main character? Anyway, check out paul rubens body of work, revisited any time.

Speaker 1: 5:30

I feel like I mean I hope he had plans for the character. I mean, I don't know, I guess maybe the character should go with him, but it would be interesting that the character lived forever. We often don't talk religion and politics, but you know, personally I'll just break it, I'll break the fourth wall for a little while. When he died. I don't think you're dead. I mean we've already proven scientifically that energy can't be destroyed. So it's been. Things have been recorded after people have died. So I'm just saying whatever you know right? Oh, and then, uh, jordan lost one of her faves.

Speaker 1: 6:01

I mean this is a young, young actor too. This is kind of sad. Like At 25 you're still screwing up your life. I think you know that's not much living.

Speaker 2: 6:09

No yeah, inga's cloud, yeah, what he's on that show, uh euphoria, as Bez, which is like a really big part in role in the actual show, like rue, who is played by zendaya's like Her addictions like completely revolved around him, but also he's like one of the Best dudes for her in the show. So super, super sad and, yeah, I mean way too young 25 is yeah, that's harsh. Yeah, not a lot of living.

Speaker 1: 6:48

It's like the kid from the grown-ups movies. There was a kid who was like a Nickelodeon Disney actor. I don't remember his name, but cut short again. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 6:56

Like but I think he had like a seizure disorder or whatever which is close to home. There's Pete there. I mean one of my kids has a seizure disorder and like it's in the family. You know what I mean. So that's a pretty serious thing. I Digress.

Speaker 1: 7:10

I was gonna like so we don't do the immemorial because we don't want to bring the vibe down. We try to make people feel better with the show. So I just like that. It got so morbid that like every week here recently Right, I mean at least in the last year or so we've been reporting on so many celebrity deaths.

Speaker 1: 7:24

I was like we're just gonna cut that seg, right. But treat willy also passed away, and so if I'm talking about Peewee, herman and and Jordan's Angus that's his name, right, angus. Yet. And I also have to mention treat Williams, who's a classic actor. Yeah, like a motorcycle accident of all things, he's in deep rising. He's in this B movie about zombie cops called dead heat. A lot of people know him as Dr Everwood on ever would, I think. Like he's like the head of the family or whatever. On the show that was on TV man, he goes all the way back to a musical called hair, I think. I think he's. I think he's the dude in here. Yeah, he's been around the block for sure and has a great career also. So, anyway, I feel like because I opened the can of worms to talk about it, I had to include him, and now we're good theme song and everybody can reflect on On who they miss.

Speaker 2: 8:22

A cold box of wine, or pour something cold on ice, because it's the binge watches podcast.

Speaker 1: 8:37

Apologies, I think that's half of the song. I think it's more for something called a nice, but I don't think it's that. Uh, crack open a cold one or cold box or whatever I should have made the sound for us.

Speaker 1: 8:49

Well, I think it'll include the sound. You know low-fi high tech. There it is. Yeah, oh, I have to stop the song from playing again. That's one thing I do have to do. Oh crap, all right, that would have been awkward. Anyway, it is the binge watches podcast that we said before the song played. Um, can you want with our home video headlines? When this podcast drops, actually the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, mutant mayhem will have opened wide in theaters. Early reactions are good. Rotten critics are saying a 96% dying. I actually didn't realize that Jackie Chan was playing the new splinter rat. He's like their master. You know, master splinter.

Speaker 2: 9:31

I didn't realize.

Speaker 1: 9:32

Jackie Chan, yeah, some uh kung fu Hollywood royalty, if you will, because he's a martial art funny man and well, I mean, if you don't know Jackie Chan, I can't help you. I don't know what to say. Um, but but even more surprising, io II the burry hopefully I said her name from the bear she plays, the chef friend who's always amped up. What is the? I didn't write her character's name down, I was trying to get her her real name down. What do you know her character's name?

Speaker 2: 10:03

No, no, no, no. I haven't even watched the second season yet, so I wouldn't know any of the names.

Speaker 1: 10:07

Yeah, she's the spazzy chef who's like the number two person on the show. She's really great in that. Anyway, so io is actually the new april April neil. I didn't know that. That's pretty cool as hell. She's a good actor, yeah, see what happens. Um, there was a karate kid movie in the works to coincide with their 40th anniversary date of the original karate kid movie. I'm thinking to myself now why we've got like five or six seasons of cobra kai, or we've had like four, maybe five, and the next one's like in limbo because of things going on in the background, but I'm like that's the natural succession of it became a show.

Speaker 1: 10:46

I mean, they don't. They talk about Miyagi's character all the time pat marita who died, but he played Miyagi and he's like the one who started Miyagi dough and he's the one that taught Daniel's son freaking karate in the first movie, right? So that's all I remember. Well, I mean, they haven't. I don't think they brought um Hilary Swinks character from Karate kid four or the next party kid into Cobra Kai.

Speaker 1: 11:14

They were also talking about bringing the karate kid from the Jackie Chan karate kid into their cobra kai world, like they all exist theoretically in the same universe, which I guess they technically could. Um, because there's no continuity air, like he's not Jackie Chan's character in karate kid with with um, one of the will smith kids. I don't know will smith son is in, is the karate kid in that, but they're actually in china and he's not Miyagi, he's like a different character. So theoretically those characters could show up in cobra kai as well, right, because they brought everybody back from the first three movies, like all the girlfriends, the boyfriends, the different conflicts, the different karate masters came back and the villains, um, what is my point? Oh, oh, my point is we don't need. We don't need the movies. We don't need the movie. Yeah, it's like too much karate kid at some point.

Speaker 2: 12:06

Yeah, just give me a vim diagram because I'm already like.

Speaker 1: 12:09

So you know, it's one of the shows cobra kai is one of the shows and hold up from. You know the, the big strike. That's the, just the big beef going on between the studios and the actors and the writers and the Teamsters or whatever. But, um, then I discovered, like I was reading articles about the ongoing struggles and then, like, there's interim agreements, there's still almost like 50 movies that are gonna come out with big a-listers, and so now it's like the people on strike have to decide if they need to work on those movies or not, right, or be on strike with their actors who can't afford to be on strike but are stuck being on strike. I'll point this out like, for a little while, like I was sag eligible and I was a working writer and actor, I wasn't making any money. I still haven't made any money and and the whole thing is like you can't afford to. Most union members cannot afford to be on strike. They've already been on strike for like months like they're. They're like at a house, at home.

Speaker 1: 13:02

You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 13:02

Like, like and again, trying not to veer into Religion or politics, however, you can see how it's affecting people, right, but some uh a-listers, like viola davis Stopped the production that was she was on, that was going to move forward, and bread pit also walked away from a movie that was Like put forth on the interim agreement.

Speaker 1: 13:24

But it is kind of like a catch-22 or it's like. It's kind of like already one strike or not, like it's really weird, right, it's it's like we agree that these other big movies that we can all make money on have to go forward, but then also the audience is in a weird place because it's like, do you go to the movies because the movies are made and you're, you think you're supporting the cast and crew and the filmmakers who made the movie, or is it getting sucked up by the studio? I mean like, okay, god, it's gonna get too political because, like what I mean, the studios needs the cast and the crew and the filmmakers and the filmmakers need the studios. Like it's a system that can only sustain itself with everybody working together, not fighting.

Speaker 2: 14:11

You know, right, that's a reason for it truly is a conundrum, right like it's just such a kind of bad.

Speaker 1: 14:21

Yeah it's um, and I don't want to step into too many landmines either because again, I'm not an expert, I'm just. I just feel bad for everybody and obviously I love movies so much. I mean like our podcast, I mean it's 80 percent movies, like it's like 80 percent movies, 10% philosophy and 10% life stories.

Speaker 2: 14:39

You know what I mean, but without TVs and movies?

Speaker 1: 14:42

What would we be doing?

Speaker 2: 14:43

We would have no podcast.

Speaker 1: 14:45

Yeah, well, we, we would be talking about dressing as animals, the whole time.

Speaker 1: 14:54

Castlevania nocturne. It's looking pretty good. I saw the trailer. What's weird is the famous Belmont vampire killer who had the whip first, is his name is Simon. His story takes place in like the I don't know late 1600s, early 1700s, but Overall in the giant history of the games. Now, because they've made like game after game after sequel after sequel of these video games with Castlevania his story now falls chronologically Somewhere in the middle of his family family line. Right, because they made a bunch of prequel games, they made sequel games, they made a cartoon on Netflix, castlevania, the anime or whatever.

Speaker 1: 15:36

Four seasons is pretty good, yeah, but that's someone before Simon whose name was Trevor, who gets featured in the game, but not as much as Simon. Simon's been in like seven games, trevor's in like one or two maybe, maybe three. I don't want to misquote the games either because I didn't play them all. Now they're going to Richter Belmont, who's in the 1700s during the French Revolution, sounds like a cool story. It looks like part of the story might be in New Orleans or had that kind of vibe and then then being France over there during the Revolution and the vampires kind of has a swanky vibe. It's obviously not Dracula, it's somebody else, but it's Richter, so it's really interesting. And they're also kind of flubbing where Richter comes in because they're saying Richter has like a more direct association with the characters in the anime than in the games. So they're kind of fudging the family history whatever for the sake of the cartoon. But it looks good.

Speaker 1: 16:42

What else can you do? But tonight we're talking about Castlevania anime. We're not talking about Zebra man 1, 2, and 3. I don't even know if those are movies. They probably are. Got Zebra's on the brine. I don't know why they were listening earlier. It was like if you tune in now, like you know what's funny. Somebody said go listen to the binge watch podcast. Dude's talking about Zebra's. What an idiot.

Speaker 2: 17:08

Hey, you know I'm already a fan of animal costumes and prosthetics, so let's bring on the Zebra's. If we've done kangaroos on the podcast in the last month or so, why not? Zebra's oh man.

Speaker 1: 17:23

So we're here to talk about Pathfinder yes, not Zebra's, it's about a Viking boy who gets left behind after his clan battles a Native American tribe Battles. I mean, it's kind of one-sided, it's not very fair. Anyway, raised within the tribe, he becomes one of their heroes in a fight against the Norsemen have, where Pathfinder is like the name and job of their medicine man in the tribe. He becomes like a mentor to this dude to teach him how to be the Pathfinder. Anyway, the original Pathfinder is pretty hardcore. He does some crazy commando stuff and shows this guy what to do, but obviously they're saying that he has the best of both worlds, right? Anyway, okay, I just got to point out this is a fantasy movie that takes place in pseudo history, based on a couple myths and scrapings of actual history. In the real world of Vikings and Native Americans, one could easily say that the Native American tribes and villages, the tools they use, the clothes they wear and the paint they're wearing are very inconsistent and it looks like a hodgepodge of like four or five tribes. So you could argue that that's not accurate at all and maybe the time it takes place at not accurate at all and how they get encountered by the Vikings is not accurate at all. I want to point out some references to famous fantasy movies. We're cracking one open for fantasy movie vibes this month. Okay, check this out.

Speaker 1: 18:55

The main character at one point escapes the Vikings by riding down a frozen mountain on a shield. Just like in Willow, where Willow and Metmargin ride down a frozen mountain to escape soldiers on a shield. Okay, there's also at the beginning of this movie, a white horse is escaping from some unknown threat, just like how the white unicorns in a frozen landscape. I should have mentioned that the horse is running through snow. The unicorns are trying to escape from an unknown threat in the snow. In Legends, which we actually covered a few months back. Go dig it up, it's a great episode.

Speaker 1: 19:29

Then there's sword practice by the water, just like Conan practicing with his sword down by the coastline near the seashore or whatever Different bodies of water. I mean the main character and pathfinder, whose name is Ghost, I guess. If you look at the credits and read some of the subtitles, I guess his name is Ghost. That's the name they gave him Whenever you hear his Viking name. That's one we'll get. Actually, you know what? I'll say that for the bits. That's an argument for later. I'll save that. Try to remember that. I think that's it. Yeah, so he's practicing by a lake with his Viking sword that got left behind with him as a kid in a broken Viking ship, whatever. I mean, you got to watch the movie and then Conan is swinging his sword at a very iconic moment in the Conan movie. He's practicing with his sword, so anyway, they match up References there you go.

Speaker 1: 20:27

Now I'm going to kick it over to Jordan. She's got seven stats about Pathfinder. Oh, by the way, maybe we should mention there's like four Pathfinder movies. They're all different plots.

Speaker 2: 20:36

This is a very specific one 2007 with Carl Urban, if that's the one we found that's the one we're watching.

Speaker 1: 20:46

Judge Dredd and Billy the Butcher is on Amazon.

Speaker 2: 20:52

As John mentioned, this is a fantasy movie, so historically did not, you know, do a whole lot justice.

Speaker 1: 21:03

Like historical wise, historical wise.

Speaker 2: 21:06

It like costume. They like like Vikings didn't historically have big like antlers and horns and stuff on their helmets. They added them anyways because it made them scarier, which they absolutely look totally terrifying in this movie.

Speaker 1: 21:27

But that's also.

Speaker 2: 21:28

There's a famous opera or something that created the dragon wing helmets or whatever which makes sense because they actually referenced, like the opera house, the Sydney opera house, a couple of times in like set design and stuff. So I find that pretty, pretty cool, but also not historic and also modern audiences just think that like Vikings had horns on their helmets, so kind of leaning into like what we, I guess, stereotypically think in terms of it also made me think of like the natives in the movie say that we're a dragon man, referring to the Vikings, but I'm like their language wouldn't have a term Like dragon.

Speaker 1: 22:06

I don't quite think. Yeah, yeah, do you does?

Speaker 2: 22:09

it. Yeah, it does like Norse mythology, like have like a lot of dragons in them?

Speaker 1: 22:17

I didn't think so right, I don't know, I don't. The first word that jumped into my mind was reverend, but that's another animal, but I don't know if it's their word or not. I mean interesting.

Speaker 2: 22:33

Like you said, it's kind of a mod podge of like different types of tribes and stuff. But historically if the Vikings, or when the Vikings encountered Native Americans, it would have been the Beow took people of Newfoundland, canada. So again they just kind of like mod podged a bunch of different stuff for this movie.

Speaker 1: 22:54

So again, historically not on par but there's a scene with a little girl and she has Mohawk makeup on her forehead and this is, but none of the other people look like Mohawks. You know what I mean? Like it's like what's going on.

Speaker 2: 23:11

There's some interesting fun facts about the movie. Actors were shoulder pads underneath their Viking costumes to make them appear larger and fiercer, which makes total sense, If you notice. Like all the scenes with the Vikings it's they're kind of shot like at certain angle to make them appear to be much, much larger than literally everybody else. They're also on horse.

Speaker 1: 23:36

Oh yeah, they're all jacked up on Royds. This is like that. I mean the tone of the movie is exaggeration. It's definitely like it's very fantastic or comic booky, very active movie. It's like everything's like accelerated to like 11. Yeah, yeah, like every bike, and literally every Viking is, like what, nine feet tall in this movie.

Speaker 2: 24:01

Which would make sense, because there was a lot of injuries that actually happened, including a cast member being stabbed on set. 13 crew members were actually injured during the filming as well, and Carl Urban was constantly injured due to the weather conditions.

Speaker 1: 24:19

Oh, it's definitely a wild movie. You could see the stunts when we get people hurt. It's not to use your coin, your name, but it's pretty savage, it really is.

Speaker 2: 24:29

And they're like it makes sense with Carl Urban, because he's literally wearing animal clothing during the entire film. So yeah, all right.

Speaker 1: 24:40

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Speaker 2: 28:13

I mean it has to be right. You're talking about your favorite bits, the bits To kick it off. I would say. I mean, the sled scene is pretty cool when you just kind of see him preparing for like running with the shield, to just like coast down.

Speaker 1: 28:30

I mean, I don't know after I said they stole it from Willow, or is it just as good because you're like, oh, they're not looking at it.

Speaker 2: 28:37

It's like totally just as cool because I feel like I like if I think really hard and I don't know the movie I like swear I can see, like like I can see snowmobile scenes like down movies of like battles and fights and stuff like that. So you know, I guess Write this down Jordan.

Speaker 1: 28:57

Another good movie snowmobile Vikings. Yeah, why not Right?

Speaker 2: 29:04

But I would say, probably my favorite one is between half-binder 3000.

Speaker 1: 29:09

Check it out Half-binder 3000.

Speaker 2: 29:11

It's a sequel, but it's in the future for some reason, right, the Vikings like kind of get propelled into the future and they're like battling with swords on snowmobiles.

Speaker 1: 29:19

Yeah, why? Yes, this is Mad Max, but it's frozen. I can see it. Here we go. Patented trademark, copyrighted.

Speaker 2: 29:26

You can't say that you heard it here yeah. I heard it here first. It would be between ghost and like the lead Viking when they're like on the side of the mountain and they're kind of tethered together like around the tree.

Speaker 2: 29:40

I wrote down favor bit, killing your enemies with an avalanche, I mean that's pretty cool, but even like leading up to it, while, like the Vikings, trying to like, stab his way up, like he's literally just took the knife from his comrade I don't know Just like slices his mouth open and then he's like oh yeah, he had no intention of pulling him up the mountain side.

Speaker 1: 30:01

He's just like I need your knife, just rips and.

Speaker 2: 30:04

I have out of his mouth and stabs his way essentially into the mountain all the way up. And as he's going up, ghost is going down, and then they're just kind of like beating the heck out of each other to try to survive. There was one part that kind of bumped me out. It's a not so favorite bit, can I?

Speaker 1: 30:25

Yeah, I mean, that's what this, that's what the favorite bits are all about. Either they're your favorite bits or they're not.

Speaker 2: 30:31

It made me so mad when ghost had this like great trap set for the Vikings and the like tribe comes to essentially rescue the Pathfinder's daughter because she obviously snuck away to like help fight with ghost and ghost like has it laid and his two buddies from the tribe are with him, he's got, you know, the Pathfinder's daughter and then the more silent you know tribesmen I guess, and then the rest of the tribe comes and they just like jump and they kind of like prematurely starts to attack.

Speaker 1: 31:11

That's an interesting theme in the movie. Like, none of the traps quite work right, because then he tries to frozen lake and he falls on himself and has to be rescued by the people he's trying to annihilate.

Speaker 2: 31:21

But he didn't want to do the lake, you know, so he was kind of forced to. But it's like it kind of makes sense because his tribe doesn't accept him as one of their own right and so they're just kind of like rushing to war when he like has this trap laid out and and then it made me really sad because they obviously fell into the pit and then the Vikings were able to like obviously slaughter tons more people. So yeah, that kind of made me super bummed.

Speaker 1: 31:53

I was like spoiler alert there's a giant avalanche, yeah, there is. Half the Vikings fall down a mountain, but he sets him up for it, However, him finally recognizing who he is and like accepting who he is, and then like a shouting to make the avalanche happen. Really cool the fact that the final villain comes back like three or four times, like the villains always come back at least one more to do the final fight. But then it was like it was like boss fight plus boss fight plus boss fight. That was a little too much Like. I thought like the avalanche should have killed him because the cheering was he man and was over the top. But it worked and that should have ended the guy not come back another and another sword fight.

Speaker 2: 32:37

Right.

Speaker 1: 32:38

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 32:39

Yeah, I mean sure, I mean you're like okay, come on, Like, like you know, always there could always be like a good ending and then for some reason it seems like it's got a top of one more time. But yeah, that was, it was good. I mean there was a lot of action in this movie. No-transcript yeah, lots of lots of gore. They definitely did that part right, for sure. Lots of car.

Speaker 1: 33:09

The Pathfinder daughter who becomes spoiler alert becomes ghost bride for five minutes as a half Viking child is played by Moon blood guy, who is actually in. What is she in? She's been in a few things. She was in oh, one of the Terminator movies, I think, the one we actually happened to mention last week. I think I think she plays one of the. She plays the, the lead, unlike one of the main female leads in the and the Terminator salvation. I think she's in that movie, hmm interesting.

Speaker 1: 33:45

I like her. Yeah, she's. She's pretty good. Let's hear a lot more movies and Then I should have written it down. I know this actor's name and it's slipping my mind the guy who plays the main Viking is it Clancy Brown?

Speaker 1: 34:00

Yes, clancy Brown, thank you. One of this is like one of his last physical Roles. I mean he's a big dude, he's a tall dude but obviously he's aging out of like doing all his own stunts. But he goes back to like the high under playing an immortal called the kurrigan we also had crazy armor and was like an immortal medieval warrior, the villain in that movie. He's also the main prison guard and shoshing redemption. He's a does a ton of voices and cartoons.

Speaker 2: 34:27

He's also in a.

Speaker 1: 34:30

Which I just watched Drill, sergeant, whatever, who teaches them at the school? Yeah, who teaches the? Who teaches the troopers? I mean, he's a. He's a long career, 30 or 40 years by now, anyway. So it's cool to see him in this. My favorite bit Jordan said it I love the. I love the Avalanche to get rid of your enemies. We're in ratings. Now, you know this is. This is a little weaker for me. This is like my second or third time watching the movie. It doesn't get stronger as you watch it again. It actually gets a little bit weaker each time that you want to be honest. Anyway, what's your oh on this show? We say binge now, you got to watch it now. Binge later, get to it eventually, but not to the top of your list. And binge never means don't ever watch it. You can't get your two hours back, you're gonna. You're like I wasted my life when you at with this one it was a binge now for me.

Speaker 2: 35:23

It was fast, lots of gore, like that was probably the thing that like kept me going through. It was like that there's a lot of.

Speaker 1: 35:35

You know which version did you watch? Our are the unrated I.

Speaker 2: 35:39

Can't remember.

Speaker 1: 35:40

Maybe it was our I was gonna say if you love that juice, there is an unrated version. Yeah. However, all it all, the torture is amplified, which I can't stand. So I didn't. That's why I prefer the the regular theatrical cut.

Speaker 2: 35:53

Yeah, cuz I feel like that those scenes are enhanced, or you know huh, yeah, well, and I did see that there is like eight minutes that was cut from the original film, was like lots of scenes that were removed. But yeah, I mean, I guess the version that I watched was like just the right about. You know, maybe it wasn't like too much to overstep that boundary. So I double-checked to see what reading I watched, but yeah, it was action-packed and you know, wasn't a waste of time, so I guess it was a binge.

Speaker 1: 36:28

Now, Jordan likes it more than I did. Yeah, do you? Do you do 23 me? Do you got the Viking blood? Are you a Viking? I mean, the name says it. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 36:41

Yeah, maybe it's possible. Yeah, let's see.

Speaker 1: 36:48

Where are we? Oh, my writings, you know, I think it's just because we've done so many, and it's like we've done so many fantasy movies that like.

Speaker 1: 36:56

We got to get refreshed. We're at the end of the road here. We got to change it up. I'm ready to move on to something talk, a different genre. However, I stuck it out because I felt like this was a good one to watch. She liked it. It fits the list.

Speaker 1: 37:09

Folks, if you're looking for one more thing to watch, go watch Pathfinder. Okay, how many native stories? We get? Not many. So if you watch pray the predator movie I was, though you know, if you're watching the Reservations TV show and you want something, something else, pathfinder is good.

Speaker 1: 37:26

I mean, there's a lot of abuse on native in this movie. That's why it is a difficult watch, subject matter-wise, so that that's the only can. The only concession is that's. That's the hard part of it. Also, you could argue an Anglo-Saxon white hero might be a problem, even though he's raised by natives, I mean. But there's a lot of like.

Speaker 1: 37:49

There's some westerns, you know, obviously, where it's like, like adopted into tribes and learned the tribal ways and is a better human because of it, you know, or becomes a human being. That's a native word, by the way, or I believe to be true. That might not be true, but I saw it in a movie and I believe it to be true. No, I don't know. There's a movie that actually I think it's called little big man, where everybody's called the human being, but it's in a Lakota word or whatever. Anyway, who knows I'm using movie history now is real history we just literally talked about this. Reference is real history and movie history and I'm leaning into movie history that I like, isn't that one, is that? Isn't that a contradiction? I'm just kind of bs-ing my way to tell the whole people the edge of the seats, once the rating, I gotta say binge later. But, like I said, it's gotta be on your list. It's gotta be on the list somewhere.

Speaker 2: 38:41

All valid points that you just made you know all valid points that you just made that need to be put into consideration for sure. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 38:54

Ooh, fan service. This is really funny. So lately some of the feedback we've got made no sense, like we got a couple Bible quotes. I need to look up those passages and see if they're relevant. We got internet slang that even the internet does not understand, because I plugged it in Internet couldn't tell me what it meant. I thought am I aging out of internet slang? Let me send it to my slightly younger co-host. And I sent it over to Jordan See if it was a generational gap.

Speaker 2: 39:20

And Jordan said I don't understand either.

Speaker 1: 39:24

So okay, and then, like, the only thing on that had face value, that that made sense was kind of a mean comment. This you know, this poor guy responded to a Facebook ad. He left Facebook, watched an entire podcast to form his opinion that we were idiots. That's what he called. He called us idiots. Then he returned to Facebook to write his comment, which I thought that's a lot of work to call somebody the idiot, and it also means that the Facebook ad actually worked, because he followed the ad to the podcast, listened to the podcast, then went back to take the time out to do that.

Speaker 2: 39:55

Sir, that's how marketing works. They take your interests and they show you things that are similar to your interests to drive you to a specific place.

Speaker 1: 40:06

Who's the idiot now, bro, you followed the path you were supposed to follow. Marketing got you good. Dude. Who's playing the lowest common in ometers now, dude, you wouldn't watch the podcast, steve, I think you really like it. Steve Lives in Northern California, facebook. Thank you for telling me where he lives. No, just kidding, we're kidding. We do have some nice comments. This is from YouTube. Your podcasts are always different from the others. I take that as positive feedback. I'd like us to send out, in a crowd of two million shows or whatever it is, LOL, a seagull haircut. That's completely out of context If you haven't watched our last couple of episodes, but go and dig them up. They'll make more sense when you find the episode that mentions the haircut.

Speaker 2: 40:53

I'm still not understanding. I forget when we talk about seagull haircuts.

Speaker 1: 40:59

Impromptu improv slip of the tongue. Remember I made a joke about flock of seagulls haircut. But now that I've said that they no longer have to go look up the episode to find out why? This person said LOL. They'll go back and review the episode.

Speaker 2: 41:11

There might be a little bit more context.

Speaker 1: 41:13

Sure, one person said would be buying for that discount. They're going to get them damn shoes and sport them like a king, a short well I guess they'd be a tall king after they get these shoes.

Speaker 2: 41:26

Yeah, or slightly taller yeah.

Speaker 1: 41:28

Yeah, slightly taller. It was to be accurate that the FTC doesn't be up our butts. Slightly taller, slightly taller it took the ad copyright slightly taller, and we inspired a viewer to watch the movies from last week. He said I didn't watch a single movie, but I want to watch them now. That was during our clash of the Titans or, as we like to say on the streets, our cookie of the Titans episode. Staff picks, it's getting a little bit long. We'll try to speed it up, folks. Thanks for sticking it out. Staff picks if you watch something that's not the movie of the week and you want to let the audience know, do you have something?

Speaker 2: 42:10

I guess nothing to like really talk about on this episode, because I've seen three movies and theaters over the last like 10 days.

Speaker 1: 42:18

Well, you're not going to give us a peek of Barbie. I was told to watch Barbie. I didn't have a chance to watch Barbie. We were going to talk Barbie. I don't know if she's going to give us a little tease or if she's going to let it hang.

Speaker 2: 42:29

It just didn't land for me personally.

Speaker 1: 42:34

And it was made for her, I should point out. She's the target audience, just like that Facebook ad.

Speaker 2: 42:41

A woman who's in with 30s.

Speaker 1: 42:45

A woman who, according to Facebook or Instagram, may have played with a Barbie.

Speaker 2: 42:50

Yeah, I wish it was made for people who played with Barbies, but yeah, it's kind of not.

Speaker 1: 42:59

Well, this is wild. I guess I need to know the context. Jordan did tell me, she did inform me I should watch it so we could talk about it, and I have not done so.

Speaker 2: 43:06

Yeah, you should just watch it so we could talk about it, yeah, and then obviously, I saw Oppenheimer, which was incredible. I felt like that was easier to understand and there's like physics and mathematics.

Speaker 1: 43:17

Spoiler alert we brew up a whole country.

Speaker 2: 43:20

Yes, Well it was a race to yeah, essentially. A race to get the atomic bomb To make the atomic bomb.

Speaker 1: 43:26

That's some real history, dog. It was used. It was a real history, I guess. Watch that movie about the guy who built the bomb.

Speaker 2: 43:32

I feel like none of the movies that we've talked about tonight you can talk about in a non-political matter.

Speaker 1: 43:38

It's like it's starting the line right. It's like riding the edge.

Speaker 2: 43:42

It's like literally every single one of them.

Speaker 1: 43:44

Yeah, have you? Have you heard of it? Well, have you seen her? Well, okay, I won't do it. I'll ask you off the air, because there's a movie where the main character goes no isms are good, all isms are bad. You know it's a famous 80s movie, but I won't put her on the spot by saying have you seen? Have you seen? Anyway, our next wave of movies coming in. We have a series of movies that are crime or crime adjacent movies. We call it our heat wave. So that's what? August will be a full of heat waves and we'll have heat wave movies. The world's about to be burning up. We don't want to get political Colorado rivers drying up. What the hell's going on?

Speaker 2: 44:26

Yeah Well, I mean, the Colorado River is actually doing really well this year, but we need to do it for like four years. Oh my gosh propaganda. You're doing so well and you Sorry, You're not going to.

Speaker 1: 44:32

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 44:57

I'm sorry, I can't hear you the rivers doing well. Every time I turn on the YouTube, there's another news story that the river's drying up, and that's where I derive all my magical powers from. So have no river, no powers. So, even more as that stake than just the river folks, actual magic is going to go out of the world, so I want to point that out.

Speaker 2: 45:20

He won't be Johnny's spoiler. He'll just be Johnny if the river goes dry, you know.

Speaker 1: 45:26

Wow, apparently losing the river is gonna make me shit my pants.

Speaker 2: 45:31

The sound effect I could make on the fly.

Speaker 1: 45:34

So how do you? But how would you pronounce that as a name?

Speaker 2: 45:38

Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1: 45:39

It's like sounds like Johnny's squad come.

Speaker 2: 45:44

Bless you.

Speaker 1: 45:45

Thank you, I'll shoot. Should I read your private chat? I know it's probably saying I got kicked out of the studio and have to come back in to fix the recording literally what I said.