Cursed or Worth Watching? The Cursed - New Werewolf Movie Review. Werewolf Movie Reaction. (Re-release)

Cursed or Worth Watching? The Cursed - New Werewolf Movie Review

We give you at least 3 reasons to watch The Cursed (2021).

Praise for werewolf movie sub-genre.

We discuss The Beast Of Gévaudan theories.

We get nostalgic about late night cable tv movie showcase shows like USA Up All Night, Elvira, and Monster Vision.

We realize Up All Night is the reason we saw some of our favorite movies.

We lost  comedian Gilbert Godfrey.

Ted TV series coming to Peacock based on the Seth MacFarlane comedies; MacFarlane to exit The Orville.

Discovery DC shake up continues at HBO; fired Wonder Woman director, Patty Jenkins.

Matt Liliard starts a “decentralized movie studio” with vampire movie Let Them Die on the slate first. 

Tonight’s movie? The Cursed (2021)  In 19th-century France, a man arrives in a remote country village to investigate an attack by a wild animal. However, he soon discovers a much deeper and sinister force that has the manor and the townspeople in its grip. Starring Boyd Holbrook and Kelly Reilly.

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Speaker 1: 0:01

So in the glorious days of like late night cable and like when cable was like trying to compete with the three big channels, what were they? The old school days of television, the three bigs were NBC, ABC and CBS. And then you had all these cable channels crop up, like skin, a max and Showtime and HBO. And then like a slew of basic cable channels, including like USA. And they had this show that ran for like nine years from 89 to like 98. And, uh, Rhonda shear was the main host, but Gilbert Godfrey who we, the comedian we just lost recently was one of the hosts, which will tie into our headlines later. We'll bring it up. Folks will we'll we'll talk about that. A bit address that address the passing a little bit, but I don't even know what you call these shows. Cause essentially a host would come on, introduce a movie and then, uh, then you would watch the movie. Right. And then they would do like sketches in between at least on up all night. But there's other ones there's like a vibrant, did one or she show four movies.

Speaker 2: 1:02

Well, goes back to the fifties though. I mean, there's been, oh yeah, it was mostly with horror movie hosts, but up all night was kind of like for the college crowd I think,

Speaker 1: 1:10

But I don't even know. I don't even know what you call this type of show because it's great. Like, uh, there was dinner in a movie, which I think was on TVs. Oh yeah. I remember. And, and then there's Turner classic movie night. And like I, at one point they had Leonard Moton doing it for Disney movies, but it's like, I don't even know what do you call? Like you can't call it anthology because it's not a series of short movies combined into one movie. And it's like,

Speaker 2: 1:35

It's like a movie

Speaker 1: 1:36

Showcase, showcase. Do they call the, is that what they call? They call it showcase show like that's

Speaker 2: 1:40

Essentially.

Speaker 1: 1:41

And that's the perfect show.

Speaker 2: 1:42

The movie, the movie is the, uh, is the main attraction, but you're right. They'd have like little skits or factoids in between. Um,

Speaker 1: 1:49

But if we weren't doing a movie podcast, like that would be the perfect job. It's like, you go to like a guidance counselor, what's your job. Well, all I really like to do is watch movies. So is there a place where I could like tell you about a movie that you watch the movie? And then I say goodnight and I get, you know what I mean? Like that would be that like, that would be the, you know, that would be, it that'd be

Speaker 2: 2:10

Killer. It's mostly with a hor, like I said, horror host. In fact I saw a documentary. Like there was like dozens and dozens of these horror hosts, like through, but they were all like different ones that were local. Like I think Philadelphia had one like FGO and like that's, that's like goes back all the way to the beginning of TV, basically like this text around.

Speaker 1: 2:31

Well, I mean, supposedly they reviewed like over 900 movies, which in nine years, like maybe they did. I don't know. Cause it was on like three days a week. Um, but it's Jordan, if you talk about like, you have a list of movies, you have to get to like, oh, camera's doing a weird thing. I don't know why the camera's going on to focus. I'm right here at camera.

Speaker 2: 2:49

<laugh>

Speaker 1: 2:52

All right. Whatever. I'm like, not in focus. Am I in focus? No, I'm not anyway. Little blurry. Well, this thing has like an auto focus, but I guess it doesn't like my range of movement that I'm using tonight. Cuz I'm super excited. But

Speaker 3: 3:02

So funny.

Speaker 1: 3:03

Some of my favorite movies are on this freaking show. Um, it's like how maybe how the first time I saw this, uh, eighties romance comedy called camp ABIE love. It's how I saw a BOR movie called chopper chicks and zombie town, how I saw a CHD and choppy mall. And there's a good movie actually like an Oscar or the movie, like the world, according to, I think it's something Garp that had Ron Williams in it. And then like other movies that are just like comedies throwaways, like there's 90, the creeps, how I saw a toxic Avenger movies, ski school, how I saw freaking foot loose for the first time might be contributed to this show. How I know about the last dragon, which is like a, a blue Bruce Lee spinoff or whatever. But it's like that guy's like a, like a black Kong food dude. And that's like a Leroy. Yeah, blue Bruce Leero yeah, it's the character. And then like how I saw the Peewee movies critters one and two, like most of the Friday, 13th, like, so I didn't and even movies that Dave likes that I don't even like, he likes joysticks and this movie called like the girls, the slim Borama and like there's movies. We covered on the podcast that I may have seen and put on the podcast because of this having stayed up all night with USA, you know what I mean? And like I'm like, and I saw this in reruns because obviously like too little to see it, like while it's airing, but like old school USA, like what ha the only reason this went off the air was because they did one of those like hostile takeovers or whatever. Like the new executive was like, oh, we're gonna revamp the entire USA network, which is, that's also funny, cuz we're gonna talk about like the takeover at, at HBO, which going through like the same thing, like where they just dump everything onto the slate and, and redo everything. But anyway, I mean, did I miss any other shows like Jordan or Dave, can you think of another showcase type thing that like you have watched like Sunday night at the movies or something?

Speaker 3: 4:59

I mean, you just covered so much. You just like, well funny movies, but I love, I love bringing up Avira because she's just like, she's just so funny. Her and her like history is just really interesting. She's influenced so much. I'm just, I'm a huge fan. I think I

Speaker 2: 5:15

Listen

Speaker 1: 5:15

To her, put out a book. I think didn't she didn't she put out a book recently. That's

Speaker 2: 5:19

Actually what I just mentioning. I just listened to that. Um, she, she narrates it. He narrates the version on audible. It's actually really well worth the read or rather listen. Um, oh, well you're saying once we forgot, I mean, we kind of, um, aside from Elvira, the other big touchstone, which was um, Joe, Bob Briggs, like the, uh, monster. Oh yeah,

Speaker 1: 5:39

Yeah. That's right. And he does that now on, um, shutter. He does a version of it. It's called like the drive-in. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:46

Which is basically just the new version of monster vision. But that he was a big one. Like that's where I saw things. Like he, he would mostly do horror movies, but he'd go off the wall and do things like hairspray or like I think that's where I saw that for the first time you do different ones.

Speaker 1: 6:02

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Speaker 4: 7:30

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Speaker 1: 8:07

Okay. As we mentioned at the top of the show, we lost comedian Gilbert Godfrey. And when I think about him, besides mentioning him on USA up all night as one of the hosts, he's pretty iconic. He played a social worker and problem child. And also if you go back a few months, we covered highway to hell where he cameo as Hitler stuck in hell, which was pretty funny. Um, and I'm sure, I mean, let's see, he's like, uh, the reason I called him an icon is cuz literally he was, I mean, he's been in comedy like what? 25? 30 years maybe longer

Speaker 2: 8:41

Close to 40 years. Yeah. I mean he just, if he was just the voice of, uh, Yago on Disney or on Aladin, that probably would've been enough for most people.

Speaker 1: 8:50

Yeah. That's enough street credit. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 8:52

<laugh> yeah. Um, like I said, you mentioned the problem, child movies. I think those were like the first things I really remember him in because you know, I was the right aids for those movies when they came out. Um, he was a big part of that.

Speaker 1: 9:05

It's hard to do an impression of him because he also has an iconic voice, which is like raspy and high pitched and annoying all at the same time. Right. So it's like, uh, it's almost, I don't know if anybody can duplicate his voice.

Speaker 2: 9:17

No, I, I mean, not without hurting your throat. Um, he kind of had like a, I mean he's always been a standup comedian, but he kind of had like a resurgence in the two thousands as a dirty standup comedian because of, you know, he used to be on the, the comedy central roasts. Like he did a legendary version of the aristocrats that is still like, talked about to this day.

Speaker 1: 9:36

Yeah. And in real life, he's a sweet little old man that had like later in life children. Right? Yeah. Like he lives behind like a 12 year old and a 14 year old. Uh, he has a son and a daughter, but, and his wife said she was attracted to his oddball, this like his oddness. But yeah, his jokes are filthy. Like he's one of the filthiest comedians that, you know, probably ever strutted through of the comedy club, but in real life he seems generally soft spoken and polite. Um, I never met this guy. I never even, I never been to his shows. I never encountered him or anything. It just, I mostly know him from movies and TV obviously, but

Speaker 2: 10:08

Yeah, no, I mean, he also did a lot of voice work, actually. One of my favorite thinking about him now there, um, there was a very short lived, uh, cl I's cartoon, uh, and he had a role in it as Patrick Swayze, but with his voice. So it

Speaker 1: 10:22

Was just, oh, that's funny as if Patrick sway was Gilbert Godfrey. That's hilarious.

Speaker 2: 10:26

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:28

Um, I do one of the next headline, I guess, unless you guys wanna add anything else to the Godfrey talk, but all right. Jordan's giving me the second track cause we been over. Yeah. She's gonna keep this trainer rolling. All right. So if you've seen this stoner bear Teddy bear movies called Ted with mark Wallberg and Seth McFarland doing the voice of the Teddy bear who comes to life, the magical Teddy bear, um, they're gonna do a Ted TV show. That's I guess been picked up by peacock and here's the thing. It basically has killed the Orville. Like they just wrapped the next season, which is gonna be on Hulu, but that's it they're done like all the, I mean, supposedly Seth McFarland and Scott Grimes, which are the two main stars of that show that are gonna bail on it to go do Ted. So,

Speaker 2: 11:14

Yeah, but I think there's been talk of that. Um, I, I mean, I've seen plenty have interviews with Seth McFarland going back a few years where he is like, I, the, the work on the Orville apparently is a lot more than he was able to bite off because of all the special effects involved and he wants to be hands on. So I think he was kind of looking for an excuse to walk away from it. At this point

Speaker 3: 11:35

I loved the movie, so I'll be down to watch it. So to it for sure.

Speaker 1: 11:39

Have you seen, have you seen both Ted, have you seen,

Speaker 3: 11:42

Um, I think I've seen both of them. The first one, like definitely guys I'm like an embarrassing crier. Like I will cry at stupid commercials, but like when he gets ripped apart, I was, I also still like have a super embarrassing, I still have a stuffed animal that to sleep with. So it like got me in the fields when he, his fluff was everywhere. So definitely actually

Speaker 2: 12:06

I'll definitely watch it. Actually the, the song from the first movie was actually the song me and my wife danced to cuz it was a song about being somebody's best friend. So I have a weird connection to that movie in my wedding of all things. So yeah. I'll definitely watch some Ted.

Speaker 1: 12:20

You played the song at your wedding?

Speaker 2: 12:22

Yeah, it was a song me and my wife danced to,

Speaker 3: 12:24

I can't wait to watch the movie again and pay attention to the first song. So<laugh>

Speaker 1: 12:30

Oh, that's funny. That's

Speaker 3: 12:32

Sounds sweet.

Speaker 1: 12:33

Well like, so Ted won, it was just like introduced the bear and then Ted two was fighting for his rights to be a human and they have so many great references, right. Obviously like, you know, um, they got the guy that played flash Gordon to show up as himself, Sam Jones. Right. Cause that's one of their favorite movies, but then he wants the name of himself club or Lang like that's what he wants his last name to be. And that's the villains name in Rocky three. So it's definitely a binge Watchers delight either of these movies. And also I guess the stoner crowd too, cuz it's your, your midnight fixer, you know, for your munchies, that's all what the movie's all about. They get really, really high. So Jordan say you can't remember the movies. Hey, you know, that's

Speaker 3: 13:07

Probably why

Speaker 1: 13:08

Don't blame you. I don't think anybody remembers the movie except that it has a Teddy bear in it.

Speaker 2: 13:12

Legendary, uh, Liam niece and cameo in number two.

Speaker 1: 13:15

Oh yeah. You mean if I take these, these lucky charms home. Oh is it tricks? Is it tricks or lucky charms tricks. Yeah. Cause I was led to believe these are just for kids, but if I take it home, nobody's gonna come after me. No,

Speaker 3: 13:31

You watch the second one here, like soon. So

Speaker 1: 13:34

Oh, dang

Speaker 3: 13:35

To the list.

Speaker 2: 13:36

They're fun. Ladies

Speaker 1: 13:37

And discovery is still continuing their shake up at HBO, which we kind of also mentioned at the top of the show because we're referring to what they did to USA that killed one of my favorite shows. But now, um, the discovery chiefs are like, ha just hacking away at the HBO properties right now. So they actually fired um, the one woman director, Patty Jenkins. Cause she was, she was slated to do like a part three. Right. And I guess they just ripped her contract in half. I don't know how that works, but they're saying

Speaker 2: 14:05

Absolutely nothing to do with wonder woman 84 being absolutely awful, you know?

Speaker 1: 14:11

Well, but at the time they said that brought a ton of subscribers to H max. So how do you weigh it? You know? Um, but they said it's mostly revolving around like the Superman properties. They don't feel like HBO has handled like they're superhero titles that they think are worth money very well. Um, really,

Speaker 2: 14:32

Because I don't know. I kind of felt like they've been on a roll lately actually.

Speaker 1: 14:38

Well, I don't know. It's

Speaker 2: 14:41

Also like the last few things have been through the pandemic. So that feels like that's kind of like an asterisk, like who knows how good say suicide squad could have been done business wise? Had it not been during the pandemic and available on HBO for free at the same time? I mean the Batman just did really well. I mean, it just barely showed up today.

Speaker 5: 15:01

Dave's like defending Dave.

Speaker 1: 15:04

Dave's like defending one group of executives over another. He is like back off my HBO.

Speaker 3: 15:09

Well I, yeah, but seriously, like if things start changing, you know, that would be kind of not super fun cuz I like HBO max, so,

Speaker 1: 15:17

Well, I don't know if it affects so far. I haven't heard anything about discovery. Like, you know, changing their HBO originals that we're watching. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:26

Who knows the way they make it sound is like, they're just gonna merge the two. They're gonna be an entity, but all the content is gonna be under one umbrella instead of two.

Speaker 1: 15:34

Well, those ghost shows always make in front of that. Zach brags or whatever his name is. Sounds like the name of a Hobbit, but he uh<laugh> we got a new deal. He has a new HBO deal under his belt, so. Oh nice. He'll be pulling ghost outta your closet next Dave,

Speaker 2: 15:49

They ruin mink. Bring it back to season two. Come on.

Speaker 1: 15:53

No word yet.

Speaker 2: 15:54

I know.

Speaker 1: 15:55

So, uh, let's see. Oh Matt Luard. He came up with a decentralized movie studio with this vampire movie called let them die. Him and his, I didn't write down the director's name that it's his buddy or whatever that's working on it with him. But so the concept of de he centralized movie studio, Dave doesn't have any faith in, we'll get into that in a second. Dave can explain himself. But so Kevin Smith is even doing this. Like his movie Killroy is gonna be released as an NFT where you're essentially buying like percentages of the movie itself because like the NFT is like a non fungible token or whatever they say. It's like basically like a Bitcoin like cryptocurrency or something where you're buying. Like it, it reminds me of like buying stocks, even though they call it something differently, it feels like exactly the same. So, and, and, but then it's like how many pieces of a movie are there available? I like an infinite number or is it limited to like 2000 fans or a hundred thousand and fans? Like how many people can get the movie tickets or movie tokens, I guess it might be up in the air. I don't know how they're gonna structure it, but um, listen, there's talk of podcasts going to NFTs too. So that's crazy. And uh, we're, I it's too early to say, but we're kind of involved in something that might be like a podcast NFT. Like there's, I've gone to some meeting about something happening in the future. So, um, who knows, but Dave, let's talk about your non-belief in the NFT world<laugh> and like the, the Bitcoin.

Speaker 2: 17:26

Well, cause my, cause my loose understanding of it is, is like, so say I create, uh, a, a piece of macaroni art and I say, I sell that. And only one person gets to that. I, I don't know, like the way you're describing it now is, I mean, I guess you gotta buy into it to be able to view it or whatever, but I don't know. It just feels like closing off art to only a select few is, is kind of like antithesis of, you know, what you want. You want to get art to the masses, but this just seems like only a, a solid, uh, select you who can afford it or whatever. I mean, I know that's like saying, oh well that's, you have to be able to go to, you have to pay to go to the movie theater. But like at some point, you know, it escapes to the, to the masses. I, I don't know. Um, well,

Speaker 1: 18:10

The way the articles are describing the way the articles are describing Matt Lit's idea was like a way to bring back indie films who are, that aren't getting financed at all through traditional forms or not traditional forms and have, you know, corporate intrusion and like commitments, you know,

Speaker 2: 18:30

But, but how's that, I mean, how's that any is, so are they saying the NFTs are gonna fund these projects or like I don't, I don't know. I don't quite understand it<laugh>

Speaker 1: 18:40

Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if that's how they're gonna fund the movie. I mean, because

Speaker 2: 18:44

The, the, the whole thing about independent movies is almost kind of a, a bunk dis uh, discussion, because there are plenty of movies like that go scour through Netflix, Netflix, originals, not just the, the new popular stuff. There's plenty of nineties style, independent movies

Speaker 1: 18:58

Are being right. But I think what you told me was that NFTs are a fad and they're gonna disappear. Well, I thought, I thought, like, I think, I think cryptocurrency and NFTs are like the grandfathers of like, what's gonna be like the universal credits, like when human is like we're science fiction, right? We're future Ramma in Jordan. Like that humanity is either gonna destroy itself or get to a point where there's like a common thread here where all our money is the same. And we're just transferring like electronic credits, like these science fiction movies describe like, Hey, it's a not thousand credits for your, your Coca-Cola there, John. Okay. Here's a transfer. A thousand credits. I need the Coca-Cola you know, Something like that.

Speaker 3: 19:41

It's gonna be crazy. Yeah. We'll find out. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 19:47

Hmm. Jordan, do you wanna live long enough to transfer your consciousness into a robot?

Speaker 3: 19:53

Wow. That is a heavy question for podcasting.

Speaker 1: 19:57

Oh, not OK. Well, let's get to the tonight's movie. It's the curse from 2021. Uh, it has the wrong century cuz they, they reference the something else and the list of the century wrong. Anyway, in 19th century, France, a man arrives in a remote country village to investigate in an attack by a wall animal. See, I'm committed to the joke. Now I'm just gonna keep moving forward. Jordan. I'm not gonna go back and let you finish. All right. However,

Speaker 3: 20:21

The movie.

Speaker 1: 20:22

Yeah. So he discovers that a much deeper and sinister for has the manner and the townspeople in ins script, starring boy, Holbrook and Kelly Riley. Now boy, Holbrook, you might know from the predator, which came out in 2018, he's also featured in a show called NACO and he is also the new fugitive on the remake of the fugitive show. That might be on Roku. I'm not sure who's producing that thing, but um, and Kelly Riley, she plays one of the most popular characters on the Yellowstone show. She plays Beth Dutton, which is like one of those popular things on TV right now, especially for classic viewers, people that don't like on demand streaming. They're like, ah, I just gotta go click the button, go to Yellowstone when it airs. Um, oh, I forgot to mention. Boy's actually gonna appear, appear in the Netflix show, the Sandman, which on a pretty popular, uh, Neil game in comic book. But anyway, people may not like him from the new predator cuz it's a, the audience is split on whether they like the new predator, but um, I'm taking up all the air time. So David, if you got some dangerous facts we're we're, we're there.

Speaker 2: 21:23

Yeah. The, this was another one of those scouring situations. Um, yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:27

You know, what's funny I can read your list and know whether or not you're excited or happy even because the way you like the list,

Speaker 2: 21:34

This has nothing to do with excitement. But the fact of the matter is is this movie's so new? There's like, no, there was no interviews done for the movie. There was like nothing. Like I was like, all right, well, let's see what we can find. I tried, uh, actually, but coincidentally is actually the second WW movie to me named cursed. Uh, of course, as we've talked before in 2004 cursed without the, the, with

Speaker 1: 21:57

Christine, but the cursed, this is not that be confused with cursed.

Speaker 2: 22:01

Yeah. Um, which coincidentally that had its own curse production. Um, the director, this, uh, Sean was actually nominated for an academy award for his short cashback in 2005, which she turned into a full length movie that next year. Um, this movie makes reference to the beast of I'm gonna screw this up. It makes

Speaker 1: 22:21

J on

Speaker 2: 22:22

J on, uh, which that was a real life, uh, series of real life attacks by a mad eating animal or animals, um, in the former Providence of GA on between 1764 and 1767. And this is actually not the only movie that's actually dealt with that event of the 2002 movie, uh, or 2001 movie brotherhood of the Wolf is based around that event as well. And the search to find the animals killing everybody. Um, and I mean, might be in a new, like golden age of, uh, WOL movies, cuz it feels, this is a third major WOL movie to come out within the last three years. So it feels like,

Speaker 1: 23:00

Can we briefly touch on the beast of you on

Speaker 2: 23:03

Go for it? You have some more, you have your own facts,

Speaker 1: 23:06

Just the theory like, um, like you were saying, like, what is the beast? There's massive Hyster. So they started attributing to a supernatural beast. But the theory that I like is that there was a, a merchant sailor fur trapper or something. And he, uh, brought an exotic animal to France, which shouldn't naturally occur there. Like the hyen theory is my, is like my favorite theory of what, what the creature was. And if you look at some of the drawing that people made, it's very, it's more hyena like than Wolf. Like, so I just wanted to share that trivia that like, it might be tributed to somebody that like imported an animal that shouldn't be there. And then what happens when you take an animal that is not supported by the environment? It, it raises hell. You know, it's like the wild pigs in Texas and Georgia and stuff. Like you guys know those like 2 million wild pigs that are like just running a muck in the wild, it's crazy eating everything. And

Speaker 3: 23:57

Actuallys in Florida or like green fish.

Speaker 1: 24:00

So they employ people to go out and kill these pigs cuz there's there's too many. And if they keep, if they keep breeding, they'll like destroy the environment for all, all the wild animals in the Midwest or something, something crazy like that.

Speaker 2: 24:11

So that reminds me, there's like in, in, um, Columbia, Pablo Escobar, I wanna don't quote me on this. It might be like hippos. Like he brought some exotic, exotic animal in there's

Speaker 1: 24:20

Too many hippos

Speaker 5: 24:22

<laugh>

Speaker 2: 24:23

I could have it wrong, but he brought like a species that doesn't belong in Columbia. And it's just like overtaken the country, not cause of Pablo Escobar.

Speaker 3: 24:31

Well, and he was all about his like exotic animals. Wasn't he?

Speaker 2: 24:35

I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 24:36

Yeah man.

Speaker 5: 24:38

Yeah. And murder and murder.

Speaker 3: 24:42

I was actually watching blow for the first time. The other day

Speaker 1: 24:45

Is such a great, such a great movie.

Speaker 2: 24:49

Is that

Speaker 3: 24:49

Shame?<laugh> add it to the list.

Speaker 1: 24:51

Yeah. Stay tuned because we'll be, well, our segment's coming up called Savage shame. So keep listening. We'll get there eventually,

Speaker 2: 24:57

Actually just my last thing I'll say about blow real quick. My favorite thing about that movie is one angle of that movie is at the end of the movie. Uh, Penelope and Johnny DEP have the same exact haircut.

Speaker 1: 25:09

Oh that's so thanks for giving us trippy about blow, which is not tonight's movie Dave<laugh>

Speaker 3: 25:13

I haven't finished the last bit, so I'll keep my eyes.

Speaker 2: 25:16

OK. So you haven't gotten there yet? Yeah. A great

Speaker 3: 25:18

Movie. Oh, so good.

Speaker 1: 25:20

All right. Can in that movie too. So, um right. Favorite bits, Jordan, you got something even bits from this

Speaker 3: 25:28

Man. This kinda where movie set the bar high for me. Um, there's a lot that I liked about it. I liked the, like how, you know, the mythology behind the storyline of the movie. I liked the transformation with Anne Marie. Like when she's kind of being taken over by, I guess the scare Crow morphing her into the WOL. I don't know if that's how the, the actual transformation went, but mainly once they hunted down and then she's like coming out of the body, I thought that whole like the, uh, the effects of that was pretty. So

Speaker 1: 26:03

This is like, Jordan's talking about like the second or third kill in the movie. It's like a PE farmer woman who's work in the field and then her buddies disappeared. She gets taken and then it's like, is it her husband? That's looking for her later. Maybe it's like her relative. Right.

Speaker 3: 26:19

Uh, I think that's like, isn't that the main little boy's father. Right. But like, no, no,

Speaker 1: 26:24

Somebody that knew the lady you have the autopsy.

Speaker 3: 26:28

Yeah. And he had known her like since she was a, a like a little person. Right. And so right.

Speaker 1: 26:32

But the, the landowner or her boss, it's her landowner, her surf master or whatever, like the guy who's, who's in charge of her. Like he had to make a decision anyway. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 26:40

Well that whole transformation, like they're doing the autopsy of the wear Wolf and like, I don't know. It was, yeah, that was pretty cool. There's I could go on and, and talk about more favorite bits, but I gotta leave some of that up to you guys too. Dave, what was your favorite?

Speaker 2: 26:56

Um, actually the one you just mentioned was one of them, but, uh, the other was in the very, towards the very beginning, the actually creation of the, um, the scarecrow. This is the second time I've seen this movie and it hits just as hard. The second time is the first, when they're chopping off limbs, they're throw. I mean, it's just, it's very, this movie has very Gothic feel, uh, a very Gothic feel to it. Very creepy. Um, the other, the other bit that I really wa again, watching it the second time is there's a, the scene where they're explaining what the curse is about, you know, because, um, they, they put a curse on the land. That's gonna affect them for generations. And the guy just has like, oh, how can they do this to me? And my innocent family. I'm like, hold on. Well now wait a minute, guys, you did destroy an entire group of, you know, gypsy. So like, don't act like you didn't have a come into you. Um,

Speaker 1: 27:44

Yeah. How they make a human scarecrow is freaky. Oh

Speaker 3: 27:47

God,

Speaker 2: 27:49

Uh, it, this there's images. I mean, uh, there's images in this movie, including the one Jordan mentioned that are nightmare fuel. I mean, there's, you know, stuff that it will not forget from this movie. It's just, Hmm.

Speaker 1: 28:00

Well, the, what, what I like is like, they kind of change the mythology, but in a good way, they actually set a precedence for why silver has any effect on the wears at all. Because it also, it creates spoiler alert. The silver creates the curse and stops the curse, you know, one after the other. But so in the beginning, like the, a pair of silver teeth that start the curse, like they possess a teenage boy. He puts him in his mouth, he bites one of the supporting characters' children, him like immediately. And like, it's not just like a graze on his neck. And, and, or, or like you think that the movie's gonna like cut away to another scene. No, it shows you start to rip the kids' throat open. Okay. We're watching a horrible movie. And then like, literally every murder is like progressively worse. Like, and then that teenage boy is no longer possessed. And then the creature that the other boy he turns into is chasing him through the woods. And then they're like, oh, clearly we're not gonna see the body. Cause it's, it's ravaged. No they're showing you the body at one point, you know what I mean? So as Jordan said, there's a lot to love, even if it's terrible stuff like the movie's like loaded with things. But I agree about the autopsy. I love this. There's like a little sack and side, this wro that your human body lives in and the girl comes out like half possessed. And so they gotta just execute her. But later on, they're trying to figure out how does the science work of this, cuz they're still trying to say the little boy who disappears in the beginning after getting bitten by the, the teenager who's possessed. And then like the curse makes its way through all the people that's in their family or whatever. And I don't know what a pathologist is. Like, I think this is made up. Like, I don't think a pathologist does the things that the guy does in the movie. He's just like some guy who's got some skills as a soldier, but also investigates weird things that happen. And he shows up and then Dave was tying in the beast of Jevon because he supposedly just got back from doing a report on how the beast wrecked that other place mm-hmm<affirmative> and now he's gonna go deal with this WOL situation. And, uh, they really don't. I mean, I don't know how they put it together, that they should be making silver bullets. But at one point he's like, dude, you gotta make me some silver bullets. I gotta take care. I gotta take care of the, at the farmhouse or whatever. You know, it's also gnarly when the dad likes himself on fire, you know what I mean? Like, like, why don't you do it that way? Like, why don't you just take a pistols with the head or something or sword to the gut? Like this is like fire is the worst man. There

Speaker 3: 30:16

Was not a boring moment. Like it, the movie was kinda long, but it was like well-paced out with all of like the horrific scenes. So I was

Speaker 1: 30:24

Okay. I, I won't ruin the end. I've I've definitely spoiled a couple things, but

Speaker 3: 30:28

Yeah, not the real spoiler. So,

Speaker 1: 30:30

Uh, I can guess the ratings, but you know, we'll give everybody a fair chance to rate it. Jordan, go ahead and rate this movie.

Speaker 3: 30:35

Oh, binge now, like binge Joel, always. I'm gonna watch this definitely again. So super excited about it,

Speaker 1: 30:44

Dave.

Speaker 2: 30:45

Yeah. This is a binge. Now this is actually the second time I've seen it within a month and it's uh, it's pack punch the second time. Just as much as the did the first.

Speaker 1: 30:54

Well, as much as I say that I love vampire movies and that might be true. Like I got a real soft spot for these WW movies. I don't think I've ever seen a bad Warwar movie. I, I know they exist, but even the bad ones I like, so, uh, yeah, it's a binge now and I'm predicting that this whole run of wherewith movies that we're gonna do, I think I'm gonna binge now all of them. So it's like, it'll be real funny when the ratings are all universally good.<laugh> usually our audience loves the drama, like, oh, why'd you put that movie? It sucks. But you know, we'll see, we'll see if they like the were with movies that we picked. Um, you know what, so now we arrived at the Savage shame viewing with Jordan Savage. Yeah. Uh, classic movie. You may have just caught up to what is it this week?

Speaker 3: 31:37

I just did that name drop. I I with blow. Um, that was one of them. Um, just may get my way through it still. So, but it's, it's really good.

Speaker 1: 31:47

But how do you not give Johnny the Oscar for that one? Nominated not he doesn't get it though.

Speaker 3: 31:52

Yeah. That's a good question. I don't know. Yeah. So, um, that's gonna be my, my, uh, pick for the week, but I benched a lot this week just in general. Yeah. So we'll

Speaker 1: 32:03

Get there. We'll get the staff pick. You're gonna jump head a little bit.

Speaker 3: 32:06

Okay.<laugh>

Speaker 1: 32:08

Oh, she wants to go right into it. OK. Fine. No, no, go ahead. No, control the mic. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Speaker 3: 32:16

Oh, staff picks. Um, yeah, watched some Marvel stuff, uh, that I hadn't seen before for the first time this week I watched so Spiderman. Uh, what is it that what's, what's the one where you get the three Peter parkers.

Speaker 1: 32:32

Oh no, No, you're right. You're

Speaker 2: 32:36

You're right. You're right.

Speaker 1: 32:37

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 32:38

And I watched, uh, Thor Ragner rock for the first time too. Whichever that's a

Speaker 1: 32:43

Good one.

Speaker 3: 32:43

Liked. Yeah. So I hadn't like seen the other two thores yet and I feel like I watched the best one maybe, but I don't know. We'll see. So yeah. What about you, Dave? Did you watch, uh, anything outside of this movie?<affirmative>

Speaker 2: 32:59

Yeah, I've lots a few things. Um, probably the best thing I've seen this week beside, uh, the cursed again was, um, this horror movie called, um, spring came out, I don't know, five, six years ago. Um, it's hard to describe this movie without giving it away, but I will say it's, uh, with, without giving away what, what it actually is it's it feels like a very nineties independent movie, like, um, something like before sunrise or before sunset, like a walking, talking in a beautiful location, romantic movie, but also a horror movie naturally fitting into it. Um,<laugh> I I'm, I'm trying not to give too much weight cuz it, there, it could be a spoiler for those who haven't seen it, but it is, I, I guess I'll just say it's kind of a creature feature as well. Ooh. Um, you know, without telling you what kind of creature, but um, like I said, it's, it just, it's a weird fusion of like the independent romance wi movie with a horror movie and yet it works really well together. Um, so I saw that on Hulu. So if anybody wants like a different type of horror movie.

Speaker 1: 34:05

Hmm, thanks Dave. We'll come back to my staff pick cuz I forgot to give another brand message. So if you're looking for the after party for podcasters, it's actually on the stereo app, it has thousands of live social conversations with a ride range of genres for every interest, including news, comedy, sports, or more you choose whether you wanna be a co-host participate as a guest or simply listen to exclusive conversations, you can hop on there. You can join our show like stereo.com forge slash Johnny spoiler. We do like Q and A's. We talk about our recent podcast episodes. If our movie lists like Jordan's is too long, we'll be on there. Dave likes to call it binge after dark, where we're basically getting thrashed and talking about midnight movies. It's definitely more of a raw show. It doesn't have any theme songs or advertising. It's just literally talk to us on stereo at stereo.com/johnny spoiler. Tell us about your favorite, where Wolf movies we'll be back on there. We're usually there on there, like once a month, we'll try to do these, uh, Q and a after party things. So again, go to stereo.com/johnny spoiler. Now back to the show already in progress. If you're stuck out this long, you probably listened to the whole podcast, which is nice for the completionist that Dave likes to call people who watch every bad entry in a show. You call them completionist right.

Speaker 2: 35:23

Oh yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 35:25

Well, yeah, like, I mean,

Speaker 2: 35:26

If you're gonna watch a police academy one through three, I mean you're gonna go four through seven. I mean,

Speaker 1: 35:31

Well, I, I cramed some great shows then over the weekend, Roku is like getting into deep waters with their originals. They adapted a nineties movie called swimming with sharks about a, the movie's about like a, a film producer that is really like abusive, but it's Frank Whaley, I think plays his assistant. And I think it's um, Kevin Spacey is Kevin Spacey. Who's the executive. Right? But so there's a confrontation in the movie, but the show is like completely different. There's like a young woman obsessed with a female executive and it's um, kin I think is her last name. And she played Sabrina, the teenage witch on Netflix. And it's funny, I was gonna spice this picture together because like, Jordan, you have a distinctive look. She has this look and you guys have these powerful eyebrow arches. And I was like, if I put them together, you would see the comparison, but I didn't wanna pick on you or tease you. So I didn't do that. But she's a anyway, but she's, it's a compliment because she's like a really great actor. Like you

Speaker 3: 36:30

Better splice this. I like

Speaker 1: 36:33

This'll splice. Now it I'll do it as the next episode. I'll put it on here. I'll splice it. I'll do it after the show too, at some point. But, um, so, and the girl, I'm not saying Jordan's crazy, but the girl in the show is crazy. I, I gotta make that clear disclaimer, like not Jordan, but the girl in the show. So she obsesses over the producer and then like each episode it gets like progressive worse. And like she does these things to like become like a higher, she starts as an into her and then like next thing, you know, like they're at the beach house together. Like, and like, and people are dying, obviously spoiler alert, but, um, it's better than the movie. Like, so I, people should watch it. And like, I usually don't tweet that stuff, but I was pretty quick after I watched like two episodes to be like pay attention to this. And then I also saw Stephen merchant who like was one of the producers of the original office and he's done like some comedies. Um, he has this new show called the Outlaws and has got Christopher Walken and a group of like newcomers who are supposed to be doing like community service. And then like you it's labeled a dark comedy, but it's like really a drama. And it's about like misunderstandings and people that like are caught up in this and they're trying to change their, but they can't because of circumstances. And it's better than I thought. Um, I was surprised the note that it ended on cuz they just did one season six episodes. Right. So you can, that's on prime, but it's good. Uh, and then there's this dumb movie with, uh, Matt Willard and what's the little guy Seth green and Dak shepherd are in a comedy called without a paddle. Jordan, do you know this movie? Want that movie? Yeah. So they go down the river because their other friend had died and left him a treasure map. And he's like, this was supposed to be a trip we were gonna take. We're gonna look for DB. Cooper's lost treasure. There's actually a cameo by Bert Reynolds as a mountain man. Who's supposed to be uh, lost friend of EB Cooper and he's just sit sitting there like a hermit in a cabin. And then like he actually delivers a speech that's like pretty genuine. Like he delivers a speech about life to these guys. And then like, then it has a funny shootout with the bad guys. So it's, I, I was surprised I watched it again and like, I was like laughing a couple of times, like really laughing, like, like sincere laughter. I was like, I didn't remember this being that funny before, but you knows on Netflix right now. And uh, I thought I was pretty good. Um, I was telling Dave about it. I was like messaging Dave when I was watching it. Like, I don't even know why it's like it's in my playlist. They gotta play it. Uh, you know what, who their, who their friend is, that's dead or whatever that leaves.'em the map. It's the guy who plays home Lander in like a throwaway role, like before he was even like anybody. I'm pretty sure, like he's seen in like one scene where he's driving away in a truck when they're like, they grow up and they're graduating from college or whatever. It looked, it looked like him. I really confirm that. Cause I dunno if it's really him. I was gonna confirm it, but I didn't anyway, it looks like him. That'll maybe be a correction later if I'm wrong. Who knows? Uh, we're doing wherewith movies, like till the summer arrives. So we're gonna watch this movie next week called where was within.

Speaker 2: 39:36

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 39:37

Do you wanna give any previews Dave or just say nothing?

Speaker 2: 39:40

No, watch it. I don't know where it's streaming right now, but find it, watch it. It's really good.

Speaker 1: 39:45

It's a newer movie or

Speaker 2: 39:46

Play the video game, I guess that it's based on which I,

Speaker 1: 39:49

Oh, I wouldn't even bring up the game because like it's a departure from the game. The game sucks, but the movie's good.

Speaker 2: 39:55

Well then it's still tech technically a video game movie. And uh, well this is, I guess, uh, it's not a spoiler, but it's probably the best video game adaptation that I can think of off the top of my head.

Speaker 3: 40:06

Hmm.

Speaker 1: 40:07

Um, the only thing I might be better is the original re evil cause I think that's still,

Speaker 2: 40:13

I mean, it's, I mean, I like that movie, but I I'd still say wearables within is a better movie than that. I mean, it could be argued. What's the better video game to movie adaptation. I don't know. But eh, just my opinion

Speaker 1: 40:27

<laugh> we don't have another hour to discuss what is the best video game adaptation movie, dude,

Speaker 2: 40:32

You don't need an hour.

Speaker 1: 40:34

You don't need an hour. Well, Hey Jordan. Yeah. Zombies where wolfs are ninjas

Speaker 3: 41:01

Probably wear wolfs.

Speaker 1: 41:03

Okay. So she just determined that the WOL was in is the best video game adaptation. I think in the category of monster, David,

Speaker 3: 41:11

See, I get so much FOMO when it comes to the video games. I feel like I wanna be a gamer so bad, but yeah, I don't know. I just feel so left out. It's a, it seems like a lot of fun.

Speaker 1: 41:22

Well I guess gamers have to plan their whole lives around the games they play, which that's unique Because well maybe I come gonna eat my words because then I'm like, do I plan my life around the movies that I watch? That's a better question. Like, but you know what I mean? Like, but then some gamers are like twitching for money. So maybe that makes sense. Like the money that they spent on their video games, they may earn back one day on a live stream. I don't know you. Yeah. Hopefully they make it back. I dunno, Dave, are you a game? Dave's probably you game don't you?

Speaker 2: 41:59

Um, not, I mean, I, I own a game system and I play like, maybe he's

Speaker 1: 42:03

A closeted gamer and I just called him out for it. You just gonna,

Speaker 2: 42:06

I play like one or two games a year, but I I'm not what you would call a gamer. Like I'm not getting online, playing halo with people or

Speaker 1: 42:12

Anything. Play that the 13th game last year. I

Speaker 2: 42:15

Did play that for a while. And, and there are the, there are these like horror movie or these video games that feel like a horror movie that you're playing that I've enjoyed, but like I'm not into the shooter games or stuff like that. Mainly cuz I suck at<laugh>.

Speaker 1: 42:30

So come back next week. Jordan will tell you about where we'll,

Speaker 3: 42:35

I'm so excited for this month.

Speaker 1: 42:37

Nice.