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Cyborg Cinema: Project Metalbeast

September 22, 2020 Johnny Spoiler and The Binge-Watchers Season 21 Episode 3
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Cyborg Cinema: Project Metalbeast
Sep 22, 2020 Season 21 Episode 3
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Talking about why werewolf movies are always underrated in cinema, and the discussion includes a movie that stands alone as featuring a Cybernetic Werewolf called Project Metalbeast. Plus James Caan, James Bond, and jumping for joy over this mysterious Sean Bean werewolf movie that may or not exist.

Tonight's movie is Project Metalbeast. A shadow branch of the US government wants to win the Cold War by engineering werewolf soldiers.  They infiltrate a retired werewolf’s castle and instead of taking the werewolf into custody, they kill it, and take its blood.  Then, Agent Sitcom played by Barry Bostwick decides to add cybernetic skin to his werewolf test subject because why wouldn’t you want your werewolf (Kane Hodder) to be impervious to silver bullets thus rendering it invincible to the only known way to stop a werewolf.

Tonight's movie gets compared to Bad Moon, Dog Soldiers, The Wolfman 2010, Trick 'r' Treat, Howling VI: The Freaks, and Ginger Snaps 2.

Tonight's episode is sponsored by KEEPS.
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Music is "Starlight" by The Europa Protoharmonic Symphony Orchestra

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Show Notes Transcript

Talking about why werewolf movies are always underrated in cinema, and the discussion includes a movie that stands alone as featuring a Cybernetic Werewolf called Project Metalbeast. Plus James Caan, James Bond, and jumping for joy over this mysterious Sean Bean werewolf movie that may or not exist.

Tonight's movie is Project Metalbeast. A shadow branch of the US government wants to win the Cold War by engineering werewolf soldiers.  They infiltrate a retired werewolf’s castle and instead of taking the werewolf into custody, they kill it, and take its blood.  Then, Agent Sitcom played by Barry Bostwick decides to add cybernetic skin to his werewolf test subject because why wouldn’t you want your werewolf (Kane Hodder) to be impervious to silver bullets thus rendering it invincible to the only known way to stop a werewolf.

Tonight's movie gets compared to Bad Moon, Dog Soldiers, The Wolfman 2010, Trick 'r' Treat, Howling VI: The Freaks, and Ginger Snaps 2.

Tonight's episode is sponsored by KEEPS.
The best way to prevent hair loss is to do something about it while you still have hair left. Keeps’ treatments start at just $10/month – plus for a limited time you can get your first month free. If you’re ready to take action and prevent hair loss, go to Keeps.com/bingewatchers to receive your first month of treatment for free.

The new blog we raved about can be found here: New Blog
The video mentioned about involving "Pirate Zombies" can be found here:
Video
Music is "Starlight" by The Europa Protoharmonic Symphony Orchestra

Support the show (https://www.paypal.me/bingewatcherspodcast)

Speaker 1:

Give me a , the series Bible for game of Thrones. They literally just wrote down this shit will keep people watching HBO for 10 years. That's the reason of the show. And that's what the show, you know what I mean? I'd have to describe the plot and the series arc. They just wrote down in , in the margins. They just wrote, we'll sell subscriptions for 10 years. That is game of Thrones. Are you like

Speaker 2:

Crack open a cold box of wine? Pour something cold on ice.

Speaker 1:

Oh, man, that was just on my mind. Cause I was just, I'm doing a lot of lists, right? Scouring the internet for news information and stuff. That's like blog worthy and uh , something circled back to game of Thrones. But now people are talking about how , uh, the Watchman show won some Emmys , I guess. Oh it did. Okay. I'm going to watch , I haven't haven't cracked it open yet, but apparently it's like so good. Oh really? Okay .

Speaker 2:

I heard mixed reviews and I'm not, and you know me, I'm not a huge or um , superhero person, but it's a , it's really good. It's worth the watch. It's way better. I mean, it's not, it's its own thing. It's not a re adaptation of the graphic novel. It's just that world and a new story. Showtime, HBO.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it is . There you go. So that'll keep you watching HBO for another year or two. And also I was thinking like, Oh, so every, every network runs gimmicks, right? Every content provider runs gimmicks. And I was like, Holy shit, we're doing cyborg cinema. We're literally talking about robot movies to keep people listening and subscribing through the month of September. And here we are with project metal beasts . We dug this one out of our asses folks. It's the third entry in cyborg cinema. Um, this actually leans towards like better sideboard movies as opposed to being on the worst list. Um, and then I guess, how do you rank it? Like, is it a werewolf movie or is it a cyborg movie? Is it both? It's kind of a mixed bag, right? Like a Shaundra mixer. But before we get into that, I'm jumping the gun a little early. I must like, yeah . We're already talking about the movie. We'll back up to what have you heard? Which is our section of TV and movie news. And we'll go around the campfire here. Um, I was going to review what people's stories were, but they were chomping at the bit to get the podcast started. So I just hit click on the recording. So you guys won't miss out on anything that anybody is saying? Um, I got a James Kahn story. I heard that the reason for no elf to for the holiday season is that the director John Favaro and will actually don't get along and don't like each other and don't want to do well too. And it's in the contract. If there is an elf to five rows back in the director's seat and welfare, I was like, ah , fuck it. But I mean, wait, wait for James Connor , stay in the news cycle, you know, like, Hey, did you guys forget about me? I was an alien alienation . Oh, you know what? I have an L two story. Do you want to hear it?

Speaker 3:

Yeah , that was in all these. Yeah. Wow. I did not know that, that I , you would , I would have never known that's crazy. What theory do we have for why they wouldn't like each other? Is it , you know, they just, it's a feeling, there's an event.

Speaker 1:

I bet you it's really hard to direct will Farrell .

Speaker 3:

Um, I'm going to lean on James Khan is talking out his ass and he's just trying to get a story out,

Speaker 1:

Wants to be , wants to be relevant for the news bite. Right.

Speaker 3:

Make another movie . Cause I've , I've heard nothing but good things about will Ferrell . I mean, I know he's like a really shy in person. I mean, he , when he's not on, he's a shy person, but I've never heard anything bad about John Favero

Speaker 1:

Do you think will Ferrell's a director's actor?

Speaker 3:

Um, I think he's too Sibley . I think so, because I mean, look at something like that.

Speaker 1:

What's your , I think he's too spaghetti. I think he's too like probably too like improv. Don't you think? So like he's too much like we'll color outside the boxes.

Speaker 3:

Um , I think he's great at that, but I think you can also reign them in. I mean, he's done some dramas. I mean , um, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't know much about him personally, but yeah, he's probably to improv and that's going to be frustrating on set, like, cause he's always trying a different way and the director's going, no, I need, as far as

Speaker 1:

Those guys, he's a farmer. I was like a Tarantino where they're like insanely specific about what they want.

Speaker 3:

I had no idea. Okay.

Speaker 1:

I don't think there's a lot of room and he, you know, yeah. I think Favaro runs a pretty tight ship word on the street. So

Speaker 3:

I mean that alone should make for bad blood between him, unless he's really hating when he's getting. And I don't know , I haven't , that was early in his directing career. So I mean, he didn't exactly have a lot of sway at that point.

Speaker 1:

What are you saying? Like he cut his teeth on elf.

Speaker 3:

I mean, that was it before that it was like made or like the swinger stuff. Right. So

Speaker 1:

Do you think will was just star fucking him? He's just like this director is fucking doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. You know what I mean? I gave him a run for his money.

Speaker 3:

Well, I mean, it's kind of, they were both on their way up. I mean welfare all , I mean, I think elf was like the thing that really cemented him as of name. I mean, before that it was old school and some of the smaller stuff, but like that was the hell. Yeah. I think so

Speaker 1:

For SNL right at the time, at the time, I bet you will. Ferrell was more famous than farmers .

Speaker 3:

Oh, absolutely. I think, I don't think we can disagree there. I mean, yeah. There's and then John Fabro was doing ,

Speaker 1:

I mean, that's the point I was making, like, if you have a big star come in let's let's tell the truth. If you have a big star with an ego , come in, doesn't it matter if their ego them super happy and zany and improv, like if you are a , uh, a gravity wealth of black holes worth of energy and the director is like a dying star, that's hard. Right? You guys have seen it. You've seen set egos, right? Like, like if you have a star and like the director can't meet their level of like bullshit, there's going to be problems.

Speaker 4:

I've seen him many times in person. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Um, what else is in the news? Uh, they said King, the conquer might show up and ant man three King is like a time traveling villain from Marvel. Who's like, I don't know. As powerful as they know us . He's like one of those God level type villains , right? Bossfyte level villains.

Speaker 3:

Purple it's purple. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Oh, did you guys hear about the James Bond news

Speaker 4:

Dude? That was my news. All right . So supposedly , uh , Tom Hardy has been rumored to place Daniel Craig as James Bond, but it hasn't been confirmed yet. But what would you guys think of Tom Hardy was James Bond. Would you agree with this?

Speaker 1:

I have not been excited about a James Bond story until tonight. Like I I've I've

Speaker 4:

You're actually excited about . Okay , nice. Yeah .

Speaker 3:

I really liked Tom Hardy, but I'm going to go in the opposite direction and I'm going to say this is a bad thing. Not because he wouldn't do a great job. He would, but that when people get locked into those James Bond movies, you can almost make no other movies. Like you have to like when you're slumped into a James Bond contract, it's hard. You have to, you have to be really choosy about other movies you do. And he's such a good actor. I don't want to see him get typecast for the next 10, 20 years

Speaker 4:

For Sean Connery.

Speaker 1:

Hey Dave, how do you how'd they get you to walk away from James Bond?

Speaker 3:

Have they didn't offer me enough money. Oh, there you go. Alright . Well, riffing on what Dave said. Uh, I would say that it was , I like that one double seven movie called the girl with the dragon tattoo. No , that that's true. But you actually, Daniel Craig is dying to get out of it because it's restricted. All he's done. Yes. You can do other movies, but you're also very restricted.

Speaker 4:

Nice out. Nice out. He was pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So, I mean, I'm not saying it's a total of seven movie. Wow .

Speaker 1:

We're going to have to raise our hands. This is going to be another day .

Speaker 4:

Well , we're just like talking at the same time. The fuck. Are they talking about

Speaker 3:

Double O seven knives out? God . Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I was about to say he's good in Cowboys and aliens. Did you guys see that one long time ago

Speaker 3:

Then ? Where James Bond fights the aliens ?

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. He's a cowboy. He's an angel .

Speaker 1:

Indiana Jones is there to straighten them out by the way. There's also in the movie. All right .

Speaker 4:

And John Farnborough directed it. Yeah, he did actually before. Yeah . Right? No . After way after

Speaker 1:

Indiana Jones, doesn't show up for elf. He shows up for Cowboys and aliens.

Speaker 3:

Okay . No, no. But he was talking about when the timing of it, Indiana Jones should show up in [inaudible] maybe we'd get the movie made.

Speaker 1:

Adam was telling me he heard something weird. You want to talk about the dethrone or the D 19 or whatever the hell it is.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Well, here's the, you know, when you fall, when you're rock tumbling down the Hill, you tumble all the way down the Hill. Um , uh , queen Elizabeth, the sign of people, probably sick of Weinstein news, but queen Elizabeth has stripped Harvey Weinstein of his UK honor. And apparently he got an honor in 2004. Wow. Where she, she, you know , gave him the title of commander of the most excellent order of the British empire honor. And , uh , apparently there's hope for anyone that makes enough good movies that entertain the queen, that you could get some special title. Um, but don't, you dare, fall from grace because you can strip that thing from you. But, you know, Hey, you know, I got convicted of some awful stuff and you don't get to be the commander of the most excellent order of the British empire. You know, how embarrassing or commander of the most excellent order of the British empire is in prison for 23 years anyway. Hmm .

Speaker 1:

Alright . Uh, alright . Alright . Let's move on to the next movie or anything else, dad ? No, I don't know. I'm just thinking about people being beheaded. Cause like I was thinking like it's, I mean, I guess you can get your title taken away, but like in the middle ages nights , if they got their title taken away, I'm pretty sure it was because they got their heads chopped off.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah. Well , once he is released, then he's scheduled to be guillotine, so cool . Alright . French Joel . Nice. Alright . Yeah. They're going to get that Weinstein. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Um, tonight's movie product metal beast, a shadow branch of the U S government wants to win the cold war by engineering where we'll soldiers, the infiltrate, a retired werewolves castle. And instead of taking the wear off into custody, they kill it. Take its blood. Then agent sit-com played by Barry Bostwick. I call him agent sit-com cause he's in a million sitcoms. He decides to add Cyberonics skin to his werewolf test subject because why wouldn't you want your wherever to be impervious to silver bullets, thus rendering it invincible to anyone. And it's the only known way to stop it werewolf. So of course, why wouldn't you make it invincible? Uh , that sounds just like a stupid government move. Like that's exactly something that the government would do from my perspective. Um, it's pretty clear. I'm not a big fan of, of, of government stuff, but that just seems like something they would do. They would, they would approve a government program to make werewolves invincible. The movie has a great opener. They sneak into a werewolf's castle and fuck it up. Take its DNA. And the looked good in this movie. That's the thing like just like a zombie movie where they have to look a certain way. Like if you do aware of movie, like your werewolf's have to look halfway decent, otherwise like what's the point, you know? Um, and

Speaker 3:

Let's go to [inaudible] to replace the, sorry what ? No, go ahead. Oh, you don't want to replace a guy with like a German shepherd, you know, and be like, Oh look, it's a werewolf is probably the worst if it'd be cool . Poodle. Yeah. Like this shaggy dog from Disney,

Speaker 1:

But those are great movies. I love the shaggy dog.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. But they just make the same movie over and over again. But that's all another yeah.

Speaker 1:

As a whole. Yeah. Wait , wait to go like werewolf movie . We're going to have to stop. We're going to, is this going to be a Hobbit situation? We're going to have to talk about shaggy dog . I'm attorney shaggy dog set of shade .

Speaker 3:

So we'll schedule saggy dog into his episode on its own.

Speaker 1:

Yeah . Yeah. It was side to side episodes . Um, that might be a good feel . Good entry yet . We all go watch the shaggy dog movie .

Speaker 3:

Oh, that'd be fun . We need to watch every single incarnation.

Speaker 1:

There's also one of the cat with a flying saucer or something.

Speaker 3:

Are we doing that space ? Thanksgiving episode, right ? What about the Chihuahuan movies ?

Speaker 1:

You folks we're already planning our Thanksgiving episodes and we haven't told you about project metal beast. Um, Nick , save us, go to your first impressions of this werewolf movie

Speaker 3:

Kane hotter as a werewolf equals pretty cool.

Speaker 1:

Hmm . That's good, Dave.

Speaker 3:

Um , this is really cool for 15 minutes and then it becomes boring and self serious. Wow. I am like the same person as Dave or something. Cause it started out promising and then it descended into cliche. Yeah. Bummer. That was like John loved it or something. It sounds like John enjoyed himself. If he didn't like express your joy. Cause I got none from it. Oh wow. Oh I enjoyed the beginning. I think we all agreed that the beginning is great. And kind of,

Speaker 1:

I'll just say what a great send off.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. I don't know. It just acting was like, this was the laziest acting I've seen from like actual good actors.

Speaker 1:

Hey Dave, that's more than cliff notes . Sounds like you're

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry. I'll shut up.

Speaker 1:

He gets no points for his first impression. Oh , well this is , um , I would have the movies we watched so far. I think this is the funnest. I had the most fun with this one more than I had with the other movies. What did we watch? Uh, hands of steel. What do we watch before that

Speaker 3:

Hands of steel is yeah ,

Speaker 1:

Yeah . Was just one of my old favorites. But I guess maybe because I hadn't seen project metal beast and I had been wanting to watch it for such a long time and finally got to do it. I guess I didn't hate it as much as you guys. There's one thing I don't like and we'll get back to it. We'll get back to it. After these messages, the first message I want to deliver to you folks is I finally got my gummies from Sunday scaries and I wanted to put it kind of through like a test. So I was like, okay. It says it's going to ease stress and take away anxiety. Right? So I'm like, let me watch a horror film that is anxiety inducing for myself. Specifically John comforters , the fog and people are like, huh, that's laughable, pirate, zombies, whatever. For some reason watching that movie at the right age has like stuck with me. You know, that movie trauma that you get right from a scary movie. So every time I put it on, there is a moment that's like super uncomfortable. It's usually when the fog is attacking the kid at his house with like the babysitter or the grandmother or whoever that lady is and it's stocking the kid and you think the fog is going to get them . And I'm like , so that moment I can't handle it. But I took the gummies. I sat down with the fog. I was fine. I was completely relaxed for like three hours. Right. Then I had some stress in my own mind, in my personal life. And I popped a few more gummies guys. I don't know. It's like the rain clouds parted. You know what I'm saying? And yeah. So I recommend trying these out. You can get them for 25% off anything on their website. Sunday scaries.com. You can either manually enter the code binge 25. Or if you grab the link in the podcast notes, it's going to automatically apply the 25% off at checkout. You can get the gummies, you can order one of their bundles and have it applied. I want to get their hat I saw on there . Head a little cool, like gummy had a surfboard with a hat. You get it in one of the bundles, but you gotta pop down 60 bucks, but 25% off, it's not so bad. Um , anyway, I had a good experience with them. I made a little video it's on our promotional channel on YouTube. Facebook slapped it down bunch of ass, but I'm sorry . That's terrible. A lot of people like it on Instagram. I asked everybody Instagram to like share it with your friends because Facebook is trying to suppress it anyway. Well they need people anxious. Yeah, let's see. I don't want to get on his Facebook rent when I'm trying to just promote our parts here . So that's Sunday scaries.com. Okay. And also let's see, as guys, so much of our identity is wrapped up in our hair from how it feels after getting a fresh cut to the way it's perfectly styled before going out. That's why when we get into our twenties and thirties and start noticing the first signs of hair loss, it definitely feels like panic time because let's face it. No guy's ever ready to go bald. Thankfully now there's keeps the simple and easy way to keep your hair. Did you know, two out of three guys will experience some form of male pattern baldness by the time they're 35, the best way to prevent hair loss is do something about it. While you still have hair left, find out why it keeps has more five star reviews than any of its competitors. And more than 100,000 men trust keeps to keep their hair loss prevention, medication treatments start at just dollars a month. Plus for a limited time, you can get your first month free. If you're ready to take action and prevent hair loss, go to keeps.com/binge Watchers to receive your first month of treatment for free that's K E E P s.com/binge Watchers keeps our complex binge Watchers. You can try that out. That's the last of our messages. Now we're going to talk some more product metal beast. All right . Here's the time you can rip into it. Dave, we'll let you go ahead and start. Tell us all your thoughts on product mailbox .

Speaker 3:

I'd go crazy. Go nuts. I mean doubling from my opinion, I'm just going to say,

Speaker 1:

I mean, again, we've all agreed that

Speaker 3:

15 minutes are great and the concept isn't bad. It's just, it was just, I've never seen such phoned in acting, especially from people who are, you know, these, they were not , uh , you know, D list actors. They were, you know, Barry Bostwick , Dana Delaney. But uh, I don't know. It just

Speaker 1:

Kimberly , wasn't it. Wasn't it. Kim , Kimberly , Kim Delaney.

Speaker 3:

One of the Delaney is , was in it. I thought it was,

Speaker 1:

We can't say chicken and we're sorry folks. I'm not getting it out of here .

Speaker 3:

Yeah . Paul did I say, Oh, come down, check baby chickens in this movie.

Speaker 1:

There's a series of baby chickens that get killed in this movie. Folks, you know, it's unforgivable, werewolves, love them . They're like, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. I mean the only thing ,

Speaker 1:

Wait , there was a werewolf rip off camera. Wasn't there when he's first woofing out, didn't he rape that girl in the laboratory? Like she comes back all torn apart. Like he's a little cut up, but

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he didn't eat or no. And then, then the assumption is that he was still kind of doing man things to her, like yeah . The werewolf side allowed him to do that.

Speaker 1:

Well, okay. So what are the soldier? Boys is so anxious to use the werewolf blood that he injects himself. Right? So then he's like, he starts to Wolf out and then the dude shoots him with silver bullets and then he puts them into, I don't know, cryogenic , cryogenics. I forgot to say spoiler alert, but it already happened. So anyway. Yeah. So he's, he leaves, they put him to sleep for like 20 years. He's kind of in stasis. And then, then the brilliant guy, Boswick, whatever agent Miller or something decides like, yeah, let's put them in this other program that he likes . So basically he fails to engineer the weapon and then, but then they put him in charge of another project. Right? Like he screws up the werewolf project and then they put him in charge of this cybernetics project. Normal for government. Yeah, exactly. Promote from within and promote the screw ups. Right. So they use gets moved over to this other place and they thought him out, they start grafting his skin with the cybernetic stuff. And then he wolfs out again.

Speaker 3:

We're mixing up

Speaker 1:

The sections here. Like I forgot. I skipped over the audience portion. I'll I guess we'll just go right to favorite bits. After the , after the complaints we'll call this like the dangerous complaint section. So my contention for this movie is he like Wolf's out fully and he's like on a roof and then jumps down to kill a security guard. Then when they're like trying to find out where the werewolf is, they spray him with like a what fire extinguisher. Right. And then he's no longer a werewolf. He's like half Wolf, half man. And he looks terrible when he's on the table. Cool . And elongated face. And I'm like, wait a minute. Like , why would he de Wolf halfway with a fire extinguisher? It's that's the thing that really took me out of the movie was like, I was really struggling with this. I was like, cause everything I know about werewolf's why would hitting it with some cold? What is it? Nitrous or something? Well , what did they put in fire? I don't know . Chemical

Speaker 3:

Mix. Like it's like a powder and it's powderized

Speaker 1:

So [inaudible] de Wolf .

Speaker 3:

Well, it's probably a special mix.

Speaker 1:

I used a fire extinguisher too . He was still like, maybe it's cause the cybernetic stuff was taking a long time to transform his body or something because first he was a regular werewolf. Then he was this half Wolf thing. Then he's finally the, the metal beast. Right. And Nick, you said, you thought you could tell that it was Cain hotter in the suit.

Speaker 3:

I totally could at the , yeah, I can tell when he , you know why, because if you watched enough Brian 13th movies, you know, the way Ken Hunter plays like Jason and he kind of brought that to the werewolf in some elements when he was walking or like staring at a character, especially at the end, when they're, before they're about to like blow him up. He's like he was doing the Jason breathing. It was like, Oh this is Jason Miller. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Did I just blow ?

Speaker 1:

Well, they were even doing kind of Jason music. Right? They had like Pew of ease in the hallway right. Of what to wear .

Speaker 3:

It was Harry Manford Deni . And I looked it up and it wasn't, but I thought it was at first. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Um , the characters are all piecemeal. You don't really give a shit about anybody, which made me the kills are kind of wasted because since you don't care about anybody, maybe the guy who engineers , the way to try to get rid of the werewolf, you might care about him. Cause he gets kind of beat up. But, and then Kim Delaney is supposed to be the main character maybe. Cause at first the werewolf is kind of the main character for like the first act of the movie. You're kind of with that dude who's obsessed with, I don't know , unleashing the power of the werewolf or whatever he wants to do. And then, then all of a sudden, like, I guess it doesn't matter because he fell asleep during the cold world and the cold war and then the cold war ended. Right? Like he goes to sleep in the eighties, wakes up in the nineties or something and I'm like, then it's over with a favorite bits guys. How they killed the werewolf is my favorite part of this movie. That's going back to it. That is great. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah . Going back to everyone, we all love that.

Speaker 1:

Nick, what about you? You got a favorite bit.

Speaker 3:

Uh , my favorite bit is pretty much knowing that Kane Hodder is playing this in scene . Like I said, like seeing him play a werewolf as Jason was really cool. Hmm . I would have loved it. I would have loved to have even known about it . I never even heard about this movie until John brought it up and I , it was just so cool to see Jason has , well , I guess at the end of the day, that makes it work .

Speaker 1:

It was cool. Like a cyber CyBorD werewolf. I never heard of that. I thought that was cool as hell. So maybe that's how you lower you in with like a B-movie plot. That sounds intriguing. So , uh , kick it over to Dave. You're going to have to try really hard. Not to grind your teeth and find something you enjoyed about the movie. Well , I mean , I , again, I like you, I like

Speaker 3:

Basically the ending in the very beginning, everything in that middle section can just go away. Hmm . I like how they are. You done Dave? Yeah. I like how they dressed up. That's all you had to say. Good about them .

Speaker 1:

Sometimes. That's all it is. Like you have like three sentences for a 90 minute movie, you know?

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Well I liked how much effort they took to try to explain a way the science for what they were doing and the , and the like the organic metal stuff and how they grafted it on him. So terribly, it looked so haphazard and they're like, Oh, he's alive. We shouldn't be doing this. You've already done it. What are you doing? What are you saying? It's already there. But um, so I do I get to criticize a movie later? Is this my only time to talk about it? Well, this is the moment where they , okay. Okay. So my main issue with the film in general is like the main bad guy they're setting up, has all these reservations about and taking the blood. Oh, does it , does it have disease in it other than the fact that it's, you know, extra chromosome or whatever, they're explaining why. And he's like, yeah , don't take it. It's you know, this could be dangerous. And then later on, he's like, Oh, you took it. Okay, good. We're gonna use you as a weapon. Like I don't care about you anymore. So that guy has flipped in 20 years, he became a relatively decent bureaucrat to like, Oh, okay. I'm just going to be totally evil. And he looked pretty much the same. So he got preserved for 20 years, I think. Um, yeah, but I'd love if we all universally loved that in seeing when I get, you know, take me,

Speaker 1:

Let me ask you this, Adam, if you had access to a crowd, genic sleep chambers, wouldn't you just take naps in them every once in a while .

Speaker 3:

Hell yeah. I'd be scared of them. All my cells bursting. I'm not sure what technology they used , but

Speaker 1:

The same technology and future Rama where you can just like pop in for 400 years, wake up, eat pizza man in the future.

Speaker 3:

Well , or you could be a, you know, a head in a jar, which is probably not you're right. When I said to a jar and talk, Oh man,

Speaker 1:

That's, what's going to happen to Disney. They're going to throw him out. And he's going to be ahead in a drawer .

Speaker 3:

You know what? I talked to one of the old Disney animators and he said, that was not true, but I asked them the facility to view his body weight of what so well , you know, there's a whole theory. Why Disney D if you typed in Disney and frozen together before frozen came out, that you would only find stories about Disney being cryogenically frozen. Yeah, that's true. Wow. Now they came out with Disney, frozen, and now you can't, the stories are buried underneath like, like a zillion.

Speaker 1:

So you have to go to like page 12 on Google. Right.

Speaker 3:

I think it's even more than that because Disney has taken over the, the, those two search terms. Yeah. So now you have to go Disney, cryogenically frozen, and then maybe you'll come up with that .

Speaker 1:

What's going to be real interesting is when we put the movie on weighed against other movies, when we compare this week's movie to other werewolf movies, and I think we're going to start with D it goes, Nick, Adam, Dave, John. But I think we're going to move it around and have Dave go first. Cause I'm interested to hear his binge now binge laters bins nevers with this movie.

Speaker 3:

Oh, geez. Um, all right . So , um, I've, I've avoided a couple of high profile werewolf movies, so , uh, to avoid a crossover. So I'm going to say binge now , um, I'm going to say it's kinda become a cold hit, but trick or treat trick or treat not trick or treat. Oh , the anthology movie. That is really great. There are werewolves in it. I will not tell you where. So you get surprised, but there are werewolves in it. Thins . Now binge later, I'm going to give a leg up to a movie that got a lot of shit at the time, but I actually liked , um , I actually liked the 2010 remake of the Wolf man with BME Silda Toro . I still think it's kind of worth your time, even though it has some problems , um, and bins never project metal beast . Um ,

Speaker 1:

All right , Nick, we're back to you.

Speaker 3:

All right . I'm going to say, I'm going to go reverse. I'm going to be binge , never project metal beast . Uh, I liked it, but I didn't. I would say binge later , um, bad moon, a cool werewolf movie from the nineties and binge now would be another cool wearable . I don't know if it came out late nineties or two thousands, but dog soldiers. Have you ever guys seen that one? That's debated putting that one on there is British

Speaker 1:

Paratroopers . Troopers are doing like a training exercise in the woods and they happen to stumble into like a den of werewolf's and they have to like hide out at this house and like basically survive the night, essentially as they're being attacked. Cause it's like a Wolf predators, right? Like the pack has a certain hunting area and they happen to get into the hunting circle of these werewolves. So it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3:

It's almost like predator, like you said, cause all the soldiers have weapons and stuff and it's a lot of action and it , and it was directed by Neil Marshall. Who did the

Speaker 4:

Dissent . I mean he's great. Yeah. Great director. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

AA. What do you got for us

Speaker 3:

Whale ? Uh , binge now is that one was Sean Bean in it? Um , somebody I'm here knows what the name of that one is.

Speaker 4:

What is that? I don't actually know. I didn't either. Yeah .

Speaker 3:

Yeah. He's in the werewolf movie. I'm going to , let me, let me get back to that. That one is one to watch. And binge later would probably be this film because it was, it had some good parts and some good special effects. Um, it had a lot of fun with what they were trying to do, but the film itself kind of falls apart a little bit logically and you know, I mean there's so much work goes into movies, hate being critical of them. But , uh , I was out of it completely. As soon as they, the exposition of the science, even though I liked that , um, went on way too long. Like we didn't get to what was actually going on for a long time in the movie. And I think I tuned out so hard that I was just, you know, I wanted to watch the movie in two ex you know, I couldn't, but I wanted to, and that's a bad sign. Uh , Adam, right?

Speaker 4:

Talking about Wolf walkers that came out in 2020. We're Sean , it's an animation film. We're Sean Bean. You're not okay. He's done another Wolf movie. Okay. I'm trying to find out for you,

Speaker 3:

Right? It's like a, I want to say it's a farm production, like a fringe movie or something I'm going to, I'm going to get back. Alright . No worries. Um, I don't really, I guess this, that might qualify this for being a binge , never a binge later would be Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein because it has some of the best interactions between those two comedic actors and you know, the Wolf man. So that's my pigs .

Speaker 4:

Are you talking about black death? That's not. Okay. I'm trying to, I'm trying to find out what movies we actually covered that earlier are viral . I'm trying my role . I'm trying to help Adam . I don't , I don't know what movie this werewolf movies talking about. That's why

Speaker 1:

Maybe he's not thinking of Sean Bean.

Speaker 3:

Well, maybe I'm wrong or I'm just so wrong. I'm embarrassed. That's fine .

Speaker 1:

Um, I , I don't care if you watch this. Now I left project Middleby's has a binge now. Um, bins later, howling part six, the freaks where there's a good werewolf who has to fight a vampire circus owner. It's pretty good. Um, I sent you guys pictures so you can see what the werewolf look like. And also the cause he's, he's one of the better human faced werewolf's that they made. And uh, he looks cool. Cool shit. At least in my opinion. And then , um, the vampire looks terrifying and it's Bruce pane . So, you know , who took over as the warlock and warlock three, but he's also been in some other horror films. So I sent you guys some pictures in the messenger . She could take a look at it.

Speaker 4:

You look really cool. Yeah .

Speaker 1:

Yeah. The makeup's pretty good. So being an independent werewolf movie in a long running series of Halloween, it's kind of unique. Um, cause Halloween is like good every other movie. So if you skip around, you know , you know what I mean? You find the good ones, every other SQL. Um ,

Speaker 4:

I love me some Halloween three. Yeah. I know you guys hate it, but I love it. It feels interesting marsupial

Speaker 1:

That too, we have an old mini series called what the whore , all the part three is all our favorite sequels are the third sequels and we, that was in there. Um, uh , my binge never actually is a ginger snaps entry. Now I love the first one and I love the third one, which is kind of like a remake of the first one, but set like in the 18 hundreds, like during the colonial days. But digital stamps is basically about two sisters. One gets infected with the like and therapy and the other one tries to deal with it, but then gets infected. And the second one's kind of like her story. Um, but the sister is still there and she's a psychopath, but for some reason I just, the second one just doesn't isn't that good to me. But um, do you just have one in part three are pretty cool. So that's my, there we go. You know, watch metal beast later on. Watch Halloween six, the freaks. And then if you're going to get into ginger snaps, skip the second one. Um, Oh, so what else? We're watching. You got anything? Cool. Nick, are you just still just mr . Reality?

Speaker 4:

No , I watched, I watched Pacific Heights. Do you guys remember that movie? [inaudible] movie is so good. This is like Michael Keane was just Batman in 1989. He's like, yeah, I'm going to be the coolest villain. He goes into your house, fucks up your apartment for like, or your place for like a month and then leaves and makes a bunch of money. Like it was scary. You guys, you guys remember this movie, right? Great .

Speaker 1:

Matthew Modine is the main dude, right? Isn't he? The, one of the, there's like a couple right that owns that .

Speaker 4:

Melanie, Melanie Griffin and Matthew Modine. And they just bought this place in Pacific Heights, California. And they have like two extra rooms they're renting. And Michael keen comes in there with this porch and he's like, well, shit, this guy's got a lot of money. He'll be okay for rent. He was like, well, I don't need to do the credit check. Of course. And man, he just messed his stuff up. And now like, you know, being a homeowner now I'm like, if I went in to rent a room, I would never want to rent a room after watching this movie. Yeah . So it's like, no , when I saw that movie, I had a roommate that was behaving just like that. So I mean, it was a nightmare. Oh yeah . Adam, some stories he can

Speaker 1:

Tell you off the air, like abuse.

Speaker 3:

I watched the movie and I was like, Oh my gosh, this movie is really like a reality show brain . Wow . It still holds up. Let me tell you, like, even though like technology has changed, the premise is still there and someone can still do the same stuff and they might even have more rights now, which is crazy. Oh yeah . Actually I have more rights now, which is yeah. So I would highly recommend Pacific Heights. Super good.

Speaker 1:

Dangerous. What do you got? What are you watching?

Speaker 3:

Oh God, I've been watching a lot of stuff, but I want to point , um, I told you about this, John. I watched this great. Uh, I'm going to put in quotation marks, you can't see it. A documentary called a bloody nose empty pockets , uh , which is about a bar, a dive bar closing , uh, on its last day. And just the characters is kind of a meandering documentary where you just see a lot of characters talking conversations. Uh, and then I found out after the fact that it was not a documentary, but presented as a documentary and it was more of a improv. Like they found real people. So they they're not actors unless they were an actor in real life. Uh , but they found real people and said, okay, I want you to tell, you know , I want you to convey this and people will create their own stories and stuff. So it's still a great movie, but no, it's not actually a documentary, but you really think it is actually are real people. Of course they are . Oh yeah. Well, cause there is one guy in there that he says, he's an actor and he was, but I mean, you know, so, but most everybody's real people, but they are acting. So it was really great movie. And you see a 60 year old titties out of nowhere because she just lifts her shirt. That's what I liked was that David's I haven't been to, I haven't been to bar . They were actually that's the whole joke in the movie. They were like perky titties for a 60 year old. And she's like shoving them in this young guy's face. He's like, Oh yeah, those were some nice titties. You know ? It's like ,

Speaker 1:

Hey, you know what? I wasn't going to queue this one up before, but now I might have to do

Speaker 3:

It's really good. I mean, it's , uh , I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1:

You know what, but I'm going to look it up on duck, duck, duck, go. And not just ,

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Duck , duck , duck , duck , go . I didn't even know about that til you guys brought it up. That's fascinating. I still, I saw it, but I still don't know what it is, but I'll figure that out. I do not.

Speaker 1:

Dave, how are you wiping all your hard drives? Clean of all the porn then?

Speaker 3:

I guess I don't worry about it so much.

Speaker 1:

Uh , duck, duck go, we'll keep you off those watch lists. You're worried about

Speaker 3:

Ah , no , I don't know about that. I mean they already know everything we're doing, so there's no escape really, but, but okay. So is it okay ?

Speaker 1:

No , no Skype. Adam, are you watching the escape plan?

Speaker 3:

I haven't started, should I?

Speaker 1:

No, I don't know . I'm just trying to segue your, what else are you watching?

Speaker 3:

There's something about Mary and asking if those are similar shades . Anyway, these were nicer. Like [inaudible] something about Mary is where definitely prosthetic maids. It would be like, Oh, it also has a bad roommate situation. You're right. Yeah. Yeah, sure . Um, well I watched , uh , spike Lee's uh, the five bloods for Chadwick Bozeman's performance is great. How was that ? Was it good ? He's done . He's the highlight of the movie, you know, it's on his shoulders

Speaker 1:

Really? I thought Delrey Linda was

Speaker 3:

Stole the show in that movie. Oh, he did a fantastic job. Delray is amazing. But um , I wanted to say that the whole movie hadn't been in a movie theater, I would have been like, I paid for this, but it , it held my attention in the same way. Like a really good made for TV movie holds your attention. And I want to coin the term. You heard it here. First binge washers , um, uh , made for streaming movie made for that's what it was. That makes sense. Cause it , I don't think it would have survived a major theatrical release. It seemed , I don't want to say it's a lazy effort. Cause so much work went into this. There's so many good performance. There's just so much good about it. But if you compare it to the other great war films that have been made, you know, it just doesn't hold water against them. I just really, I can't put it in the same ballpark. And then I was like, what kind of ballpark can I put it in?

Speaker 1:

You seem with like a landmine, that's still acting , but watching like , um , Vietnam veterans tackle, Laotian rebels or whatever, Vietnamese rebels or whatever, and get like stuck back in a conflict. And I didn't buy that part. I didn't buy like them revision Vietnam to have closure on their past. That makes sense. But then to put them into actual action into combat, I was like, that's just like a fantasy takeoff. And that maybe spike Lee just wanted to have a war movie under his belt, you know, with actual fighting, you know,

Speaker 3:

He had one. I mean, the problem is , is spike. Lee is a good director, but like he doesn't play well in certain John rhe is like, he, he can't, I don't think he can make a successful or normal war movie, I guess is what I mean to say. Um , I want to say that the movie is successful for what it is and the great performances in it. It doesn't just follow a very strong through line . It jumps around a lot and the jumping around doesn't add to the momentum of the film. So it seems hodgepodge and, but it did help my interest, but not in the same way. I'd be captivated by a great film.

Speaker 1:

That's fair. Um, okay. Let's move on. Let's go to we'll let people know what they can look forward to, especially now special announcements or reminders for the podcast.

Speaker 4:

Well, let me tell you guys this , uh, you guys needed to go to the binge Watchers website. We got a new blog that features new movie list by , um, by a bunch of us or mainly John it's freaking awesome. And it has awesome articles every day called words in movies. And they've been kicking ass. Like they're like these lists, like what's a better, what was it? What's a better alien movie or something. I mean, they're great

Speaker 1:

Space movies . Aren't alien. That was a good one ,

Speaker 4:

Dude. That was it .

Speaker 1:

Pretty good today. We picked, we kicked out , um, six great feel, good movies on a lazy Sunday. That was a pretty good list. Um, yeah, so we have some stuff going on on the blog. We're also following the Thundercats. We're rewatching every single episode of Thundercats . Cause they put it on the Hulu and Dave and I are just like commenting on Facebook messenger and I'm just like pate copying. Like it's literally, I'm taking our comments and turning them into mini articles. It's just like, boom, boom, boom, little blog posts. But Dave, you , you did the math. How long is it gonna take to rewatch every single,

Speaker 4:

Oh Holy cow. I'm I'm this is very loose math, but there's what 120 episodes or 120 episodes or more so a little over two years give or take if we do one a week ,

Speaker 1:

Um , a lot of the articles are pretty popular, like including like we listed all the movies that Netflix is going to launch for the Halloween season. But , um, one of the articles that like jumped ahead is getting a lot of buzz on Facebook. Like there's like 900 likes. So not just on Facebook, but like all we , um, to be honest with you, we can't market everything ourselves. So I'm working with a group that's like helping boost the blog to other people and other readers, but the, the vampire Hunter D like , cause I said, and I believe this, like we did this run of animate stuff this year. And I had said at the time that like the debt vampire Hunter D was the best hor like vampire anime movie of all time. And like people agreed with us on Facebook. They're like, yeah, it's, you know, before Castlevania it's this and that. I'm so glad you posted about this, et cetera, et cetera. There's a bunch of comments on our Facebook. I don't know. I could read them verbatim or I could just say like, people are really excited that we showed some love to vampire Hunter D you know?

Speaker 4:

Yeah .

Speaker 1:

So we're doing a lot of cool stuff for the blog. So you can listen to our episodes that are on the website. Obviously we're doing cyborg cinema there's buttons to some of our other runs. Like we did a bunch of virus, movies, like Andromeda strain is a great episode and you can go check that out. The anime hits, you can unlock a button that will take you to our anime episodes, including the one that features around parameter D . So we're making the website more interactive and there's more things to do. So, yeah, I recommend like if people want to find out more about what we're doing, like the website listings about us too. So there you go. Um , Adam, what are we doing next week?

Speaker 4:

Next week? Our weird cyborg movies conclude

Speaker 3:

With one of the greatest cyborg movies ever called simply cyborg. And it's official SQL nights cyborg to , uh, it's uh , you know, about the studio wet blanket, Angelina Jolie sideboard to , okay, this is a , this is a good sideboard , too

Speaker 1:

Fine delivery. You guys don't actually have to read my notes verbatim, hit on the highlights of what we're trying to convey. So cyborg is a man damn movie. It was supposed to be the master of universe or ma it's supposed to be a He-Man unrelated movie. And then like Canon film group was like, well, we spent money building these sets, but we don't have a He-Man too . What are we going to do? And somehow it ends up when Albert punes hands and they make CyBorD with VanDamme , but then like at some point the director gets fired or something and VanDamme takes over, but cyborg is awesome. So we'll watch cyborg. And then cyborg two is not the sequel . Like they made a movie with Angelina Jolie as the cyborg who can somehow get pregnant and call that cyborg too . But I guess our Pune or the people that were on his team later on made a movie called Knights and that's really cyborg too . I don't know. So we'll have to watch these and then see what we think, but maybe what happened some stinkers lately. I don't know. It doesn't seem like the binge watcher crew is really too happy with the sideboard movie pigs first two weeks were great. Oh, okay . So you were really happy with the first two weeks, Dave, and then, so I was the only stinker for you then, huh? Well, we flipped

Speaker 3:

Because I know like Nick and John did them , like a , has a still , and I think me and Adam did, so I don't know . I , I think two out of three so far have been great. So, and cyborgs by the guy who did nemesis. So I'm looking forward to that. Well, I already know cyborg is good. Um, but you just imagine exerting like two years of your life to make a movie and then having band damn , take it over and edit it without you. Like, I'm just, I'd be like,

Speaker 1:

Did Vandam makes a lot of cool Facebook videos?

Speaker 3:

He does . I mean, I like van Vandam . Just imagine VanDamme taking over your project and then editing it for you. Yeah . I mean, maybe he's good. You want to , I mean, I want to make a movie and then I'll be like

Speaker 1:

Able to make any movies are starting to make a movie and then have a star take, take your movie away from you. I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Like let's say you're John Fabro and like will Ferrell is like, I'm an edit the elf I'm the elf . You are not the [inaudible] .