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Bad Romances: Love Hurts

February 04, 2020 Johnny Spoiler, Dangerous Dave, and The Binge-Watchers Season 16 Episode 1
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Bad Romances: Love Hurts
Feb 04, 2020 Season 16 Episode 1
Johnny Spoiler, Dangerous Dave, and The Binge-Watchers

Tonight is our first entry of Bad Romances.

Let’s define Bad Romances!!!

Johnny Depp’s Real Life Bad Romance!!!

An Accuser Claims Harvey Weinstein Has A Vagina!!! Down There? Or No Testicles — WHAT???

We bring an undiscovered gem of heartbreak, romance, and redemption with Jeff Daniels, John Mahoney, Cloris Leachman, and the amazing Judith Ivey.

In a movie called LOVE HURTS.  Watch it now if you want ---> here

“Paul's womanizing fun is replaced with a series of comedic exploits when he must spend a weekend with his parents, his ex-wife, and their children.”

Watch Love Hurts


Expanded story:

After finding himself estranged from his family after a divorce, Paul Weaver (Jeff Daniels) returns to his hometown in Pennsylvania for his sister's wedding. Though his ex-wife, Nancy (Cynthia Sikes), claims to hate him, it's obvious there's still a connection between the two. Unfortunately, Paul can't seem to get past the womanizing ways that ended their relationship in the first place, and this character trait also keeps him from re-establishing a relationship with his two children.

Watch Love Hurts

Define Bad Romance?

Bad Romance as defined by Urban Dictionary:

1. A song by Lady Gaga

2. When you're in a relationship that you know is bad for you but can't help it. Can be physically abuse, emotionally straining.

Jeff: Did you see Rihanna's pic after the Chris Brown beating?
Matt: Yea, what a bad romance.

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Show Notes Transcript

Tonight is our first entry of Bad Romances.

Let’s define Bad Romances!!!

Johnny Depp’s Real Life Bad Romance!!!

An Accuser Claims Harvey Weinstein Has A Vagina!!! Down There? Or No Testicles — WHAT???

We bring an undiscovered gem of heartbreak, romance, and redemption with Jeff Daniels, John Mahoney, Cloris Leachman, and the amazing Judith Ivey.

In a movie called LOVE HURTS.  Watch it now if you want ---> here

“Paul's womanizing fun is replaced with a series of comedic exploits when he must spend a weekend with his parents, his ex-wife, and their children.”

Watch Love Hurts


Expanded story:

After finding himself estranged from his family after a divorce, Paul Weaver (Jeff Daniels) returns to his hometown in Pennsylvania for his sister's wedding. Though his ex-wife, Nancy (Cynthia Sikes), claims to hate him, it's obvious there's still a connection between the two. Unfortunately, Paul can't seem to get past the womanizing ways that ended their relationship in the first place, and this character trait also keeps him from re-establishing a relationship with his two children.

Watch Love Hurts

Define Bad Romance?

Bad Romance as defined by Urban Dictionary:

1. A song by Lady Gaga

2. When you're in a relationship that you know is bad for you but can't help it. Can be physically abuse, emotionally straining.

Jeff: Did you see Rihanna's pic after the Chris Brown beating?
Matt: Yea, what a bad romance.

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spk_0:   0:03
Okay, Um oh, I have the definition of what a bad romances. So I want to And I got from Urban Dictionary of all places. So our listeners are gonna really love that. I mean, well, I mean, everybody knows it's like part of a Lady Gaga song, but my whole thing was just like a romance that turns bad. But of course, obviously everybody knows famous song. So yeah, so Urban Dictionary talks about to It goes bad romance as defined by Herbert Dictionary number one, a song by Lady Gaga. Number two. When you're in a relationship that you know is bad for you but can't help it, it could be physically abused or emotionally strained. Then there's a sketch. It goes, Jeff says, Hey, did you see Rihanna's picture after the Chris Brown beating? And that goes, Yeah, What about romance, folks, if you want to know how I found this goat over dictionary dot com and search bet romance. But I'll totally give the pockets notes. Don't worry on. Also, write down the definition in the notes itself so you could take a look for you for yourself on that one. So, folks, we're doing a series in honor of February and all the romance is out there. Be there good, good or bad. And actually, if you want some movie news because we're supposed to give you news every once in a while, they're doing hashtag justice for Johnny Depp. As it turns out, some audio clips came out where Amber Heard was a psychopath and cooperates everything that Johnny Depp has been saying like he has these documents from, like the emergency room. Or like she cut off the tip of his finger. She burned his face, lit a cigarette. She almost cracked his head open like pots of pans. But there's this audio where she's like a green with Johnny Depp the scene and like insulting him as he describes what she did to him. And then she gets mad at him for calling like one of his bodyguards to the scene to break up the fight because he knows that he's about to get psychotic. But anyway, like that goes on around like she's like, uh, emasculating him or whatever, right? Like taking with masculinity. And I'm like, Okay, so this whole time, Johnny Depp hasn't been like this really intense, violent do. He's been more like a like a beta or something. You know, you heard me, right? And, uh, yeah, may get abused, but the whole thing is, first they get stripped of their masculinity. Then they're afraid to even say that reviews because their masculinity is gone, right? Yeah. So it was like, what, This whole time, you know, this has been going on forever. But anyway, like, the Twitter thing was really pretty funny, eh? That's been training, you know, there was a Super Bowl, you know, whatever. I should put money on it because the underdogs won and they haven't won. Maybe ever like the Chiefs won over the 40 Niners. Everybody stake the 40 Niners, and I know where Big one of our football shows. We're not really going to go into the football thing, but the whole thing is is you know, it's kind of like, um, misperceptions or something that's like, What you're seeing is, you know what you expect. It's not the truth or whatever. You know, in bold circumstances. You know, the data, this football team they want, um Johnny Depp was called the beater and, like, you know, they took away his movie roles for, like, two years that I thought he was some washed up alcoholic beating his wife. And it turns out, you know, Amber heard was the one causing all the chaos. You know, whatever. I mean, like, I guess he probably wasn't gonna do anything about it, But she, you know, started, you know, making accusations and trying to drag the court. And they have, like, a civil suit coming out or whatever. Oh, and also, if you want to talk about bed romances, Well, no, Harvey Weinstein is gonna get convicted because I always did. But did you see the story that came out that he has no genitals? Did you see that? What? You can see this. No. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, like this one. Accuser says that he has no testicles, and it looks like he previously had a vagina and that he might be intersex. And I'm like, Okay, well, she could be insulting him from the courtroom. So it's on, like some official record. You know, they mean payback's a bitch, you know? But that pretty crazy. If that's how the Weinstein story and the first thing you're gonna get convicted for sexual crimes. And then not only are you like a predatory monster, you actually ever monster has a really good warden story, right? Right. Like what if it turns out like he was conflicted with his own, like identity? Like what if that was really true? It's probably not, but, I mean, you could like you could go on all these tangents or like, your mind could drift into all these fantasies about that particular thing, but getting back to the concept of bad romances. I'm sorry I'm bouncing around. But there was all the details that I wanted to spill. Um, we're gonna start the show now and stick with us after the music and the great intrude. And then we'll be talking a movie called Love Hurts, which is in the nineties with Jeff Daniels. And you might know him from Dumb and Dumber. His other thing, like rocking a phobia. I mean, but I think most people know him from dumb and Dumber. I mean, what else would they know him from?

spk_2:   4:50
Um, yeah, that's I mean, he did a TV show a few years ago, the But

spk_0:   4:55
you're right. He probably might be actually known now more for the newsroom than, uh,

spk_2:   5:06
crack open a cold box of wine.  Or put something cold on ice because it's the binge Watchers podcast.

spk_1:   5:19
Yeah,

spk_0:   5:39
love hurts. I was looking at, um, the writer director causes like Bud Yorkin. Bud Yorkin. Like, Why? Don't know his name. He's a guy that produced an evening with Fred Astaire, which is like a major television event. Right back in the day. He's been unlike every show that's ever won an Emmy. Like he produced Sanford and Sons. He produced all in the family. Um, I love that. He's also credited is producing Blade Runner and also credited with a sequel. That might be a name only, I don't know, because that came out after he died, but he's done a lot of things, and he actually directed Arthur to, and I actually didn't even realize they made an Arthur to like the original ones, you know? Yeah. Um, so yes, above your kid's been around, man. You know, he was like a, ah Hollywood legacy. He's like, in the like, part of calling with history. He's done a lot of good work. Um, but nepotism rules, like his wife, plays the his wife and real life plays the ex wife in this movie with Jeff Daniels. Really? Yeah, but so how do you know this is a bad romance? Actually, the movie kind of tells you right in the very beginning. Like within the 1st 5 minutes. You hear, like the saddest music ever. You go to a really depressing bachelor pad with Jeff Daniels character. They do an amazing interest out of the fridge. And this is this is like production 9101 It's like like we're gonna set the tone, by the way, it looks the way it sounds. Here we go. He opens his fridge and he's got, like, a six pack of Coca Cola. He's got used trying, you know, He's got like, old Chinese food. He's got, like, some mysterious food materials in, like tinfoil. They've got old pizza box. Okay, it's a bachelor diet, right? He has no one to cook for him, and he's not cooking for anybody that needs a meal cooked. He's got no home cooking whatsoever. He's got a tiny little apartment, and then he flashbacks to his wife and kids like what? Look at Christmas or something.

spk_2:   7:27
Something like that. Yeah.

spk_0:   7:29
So we've established, like, a lot here in the beginning that you're gonna watch a sad movie, bad romances involved. And Jeff Daniels character is probably his weakest moment, usually in the hero's journey. If you follow a Joseph Campbell model like Disney follows with it, be later on, he would go on the quest. Then he faced his dark. If he do like like, you wouldn't like, this would be kind of starts. Like where, Like other movies at to begin. Right? Right. Like after the problems introducing. But this No, this guy like this movie kind of start in the middle and then, um, visible wedding coming up. And it's to me. To be honest, I was kind of confused again about how, um, Jeff Daniels character really related to the wedding. I was like, Wait a minute is like the ex wife getting remarried, What's going on? And, like, they're threatened the mom and the kids and the ex wife. And then at some point, you realize we're talking about a sister getting married. Yeah, So he's gonna go back to his hometown in the, um I guess Pennsylvania is technically the Midwest or whatever. He leaves the city and he's in New Jersey and New York what he's like in a big city.

spk_2:   8:37
I think he's in New York because they keep saying I mean, they keep referring to you know, Actually, now that I think about it, I don't know if they say, Oh, they do say New York at some point because the daughter wants to get a ticket to go home to New York.

spk_0:   8:50
Yeah, like the daughter is having a really hard time with the divorce, like she's obviously more connected to the dad that his son is. What's funny

spk_2:   8:57
about son, who's like

spk_0:   8:58
He's like a junior version of the dad. It's really they do a really great job of like the grandfather to Jeff Daniels to Jeff Daniels to the Sun. They have similar flaws and character traits. They've really matched up the cast so well. Like there was another movie where I think was Dan Akroyd and Kirk Douglas and Kirk Douglas, his real grandson. That so, Yeah, it was a jewel thief movie, and you kind of bumped. They were really related, maybe, but the chemistry wasn't exactly right. But in this movie, you believe that John Mahoney could be. Jeff Daniels is Dad. And you believe that Jack Daniels could be this teenager's death?

spk_2:   9:35
Yeah, totally.

spk_0:   9:36
So the background work, I don't know how much like and if you think about, But you're gonna be like an old school guy. He probably did rehearsals. He probably did, Yeah. I mean, he probably did a dizzy because, like I said, he produces a big show. So I'm sure he's coming in here, and he's doing, like, pretty much a theatrical run, like I even noticed. Well, there's another cast member. I don't want her up too early, but she has a theater background, and so it all kind of lines up with Like Bud Yorkin is like style like filmmaking in producing and Obama's folks. I don't know him that well, but I know a lot of his work, and I want to say, like, he picked a really good picture with this movie. Um, how he lays everything out and then, like, there's like, a hint at the very beginning that the sister might be pregnant. She sticks a pickle inside of a jar of cool it or container of cool it. But if you blink. It's one of those things you blinking, You miss it and like, this movie has a lot of foreshadowing, but they're very quick moments. So, like another example would be like, we don't necessarily know that the main character's family is working class. The mom was wearing a dress at the rehearsal dinner, and the daughter pulls the daughter getting married. The sister, whose name is I think Karen or whatever, pulls the price tag off the dress, including

spk_2:   10:51
Oh yes,

spk_0:   10:52
Chlorine or Cloris Leachman, who is playing the mom like she shudders like you see her body language change and then she gives like a fake smile. So in that instant, you realize, as an audience member that, oh, she had intended to return the dress after the wedding? Or were you know, after the rehearsal dinner or whatever, after the dinner with the in laws, which is kind of like the rehearsal dinner? It's not formal because they don't have any money, but they, you know, they're shelling out for this wedding. And then, like, um, you know, they're making jokes about alcohol is being distracted. People like they get distracted every night, and they can't be bothered. So you see, like these in laws come in from the husband's family, who still kind of on the level of them, like the dysfunction comes from, you know, the main character's family. And then you find out his dad's an alcoholic who has an auto repair shop and sell sell used cars and he like, That's John Mahoney. And like in the very beginning scene, it's like on the table, you know what I mean? And I'm like, What a masterful scene like John Mahoney is regulated to just being like Frazier's dad. But you see him in this movie and like he's got some acting chops.

spk_2:   11:59
Oh, he's a classically trained actor. I mean her, um, in fact, you know, he's very He's not that kind of character. I have to assume that this this must have been a movie that got him the role of Ah Fraser has this. He feels kind of similar to his Fraser role. Uh,

spk_0:   12:17
the working class, like trying to get by. Yeah. Can I have a problem with alcohol? Yeah, I get it. I get it

spk_2:   12:23
because he's actually because he's actually more like Free Fraser's character. No Life my understanding. He's, like more upper crust, or like opera in shit.

spk_0:   12:34
Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Um, so then on the way into town, uh, I should have written down Jeff Daniels character. I'm literally just calling him by. That

spk_2:   12:44
was it. I wanted to wait

spk_0:   12:48
for saying this place for his name is Paul.

spk_2:   12:50
Okay. Okay.

spk_0:   12:51
So Paul was driving into town, and he's in a rental car, but he's falling asleep because I guess he drove through the night from I guess David published It's New York City. So he drove from your city through the night. Later on, you find out he was, like, popping all the stuff to stay awake and can't, um, he drives into the other lane and almost hits Ah, pickup truck where we meet like the other co star of the movie. Who's this? This is the lady I was talking about. Judith Ivey. She's like a classically trained actor. Has lots of theater in the background. Um, I didn't realize she was in mystery Alaska. I've seen that movie, and he's a big weird connected to our podcast. If you go back a few seasons, David, I'm talking about like late night cartoons, like essentially cartoons for grown ups. After we get our run of, like, Saturday morning cartoons, we remember we did late night cartoons and obscure cartoon from USA Network. Late night was David. I both like was duck man. She did a voice on duck. Man of all things, huh? Yeah. I was like, Wow, this is like, Okay, three degrees of the binge watched podcast. So So here we go. So do the ivy is playing like the bride's maid, and her husband is kind of like a schlub, and the sun doesn't like very much either. And he's like, getting right clearly going to a little league game or something. So they're truck crashes it like, well, serves up the road, and it just gets overheated or something. But then, like, they're stuck there. And But then what happens is like Paul apologizes for running them off the road, and then the husband's kind of a jerk to him or whatever. But then, like, you catch that the bride's maid is clearly into him, like already?

spk_2:   14:27
Yeah. You like that? Have I seen you somewhere? Do I know you from somewhere?

spk_0:   14:30
So that's another blink if you if you miss it, um, thing that happens in this movie like and each character, almost every character has one. So it's like there's a lot of story going on here, you know that. I mean, what could have been just like a romantic comedy or like a throwaway drama that you pick up a blockbuster one night or something? There's there's quite that going on, um, and then run down the cast. You got Jeff Daniels glorious legion playing his mom, John Mahoney, playing the dad. And then I mentioned, like Judith Ivey, who has her own chops and has this great background in acting. And like I said, I've seen her later on and I wouldn't have known what who? She was my name, but I've seen her in stuff, you know? Um, so he gets there. His family's falling apart of the dinner table. You know, his dad had too many drinks. Then he realizes his ex wife and his kids are at the house because they've moved in with his family.

spk_2:   15:24
Yeah, right. Well, they originally moved into a house that he owned, but it got flooded out. So they have Thio, stay at the grand are the in laws. I

spk_0:   15:34
kind of get the feeling that, like, he's not supporting his family anymore. Like so. So the ex wife didn't have the resources to repair the farmhouse is the impression that I get like she was

spk_2:   15:46
e think it well, because they had a fight about it later, as she was like, basically like, you sold me a shitty house. So you have to pay for it. Didn't disclose the pipes were bad or whatever the situation was. Yeah, um, but obviously there's a big rift

spk_0:   15:58
between the two. Uh, yeah. Um, So there's no official bachelor party for the husband. So the dad takes out pole and the husband and the sun goes along for a reason. I don't know why some tests alone, but like I said, he idolizes his father and they're both kind of womanizers, right? They both have a knack for speaking, which makes sense because you find out he's also a salesman. So he has the gift for Gabby. And then his son does, too, because these sparkles with these teenage girls that he meets up with when he and he's only been in town two days And so there, Sara. I call him the Serenade. Singers, like the grandfather is telling the story of how he wooed over the mom by showing up in the middle of the night and it could have just been one of his drunken stupors unit. I mean, in his in his mind, it's some romantic gesture, right? Right. But it could have been another miserable night for the family. Who knows? So he goes and sings to her in the middle of the night so that he gets Paul the Sun and the Who's gonna be the brother in law to take a card of his own want sets off his own alarm. That's gonna bring the police and they drive around in his own car. They go and find where the the sister in her prized for their dinner. Whatever their bachelorette party, which is like eating in a restaurant or something that looks like the olive garden. Well, the town's version of the old guard. It's probably the only Italian restaurant in this little town, and they do the song or whatever, and then, you know, the maker wants to reconnect with his life. Before he went to the city, I guess. Like he wants to sleep in his own bed. But the ex wife and the kids are staying there, so he has no access to his stuff. But then he actually ends up in bed with the ex wife and you think they're gonna hook up like, wait a minute, Like so I was like, Where is this going? Like they were setting up the fact that he was gonna hook up with the bridesmaids and was like, Oh, is he gonna hook up with wife? And then she's gonna find out that he had something going with the bridesmaid, and it's gonna fall apart, will open its face anyway. And he's not able to break the pattern of his behavior. That's what the movie's about. It's like basically saying like he is stuck in a rut. But he kind of created it, dug a hole for himself, can't get out of it. And then, uh, they don't end up having sex. But I'm sitting there going, Wow, love and hate could literally be the same thing. Like the passion is the same. Whether you hate somebody, you love them. It's like the same amount of passion. It's like they're almost virtually the same, at least in this movie. But maybe in life, too. I don't know, Um, but it seems like they get closure. I mean, I got the sense that they got closure instead of having sex with each other. There was, like, a sense of closure.

spk_2:   18:28
The husband and wife are getting them Jeff Daniels and his ex wife

spk_0:   18:31
because, his character, Paul tells, tells her, like, Yes, I made these mistakes and I wish you had intervened sooner because he was telling. It was basically telling her she'd knock sense into one. But he was hoping that what happened sooner. But then he said, You're the only woman that I've loved. If that matters to you with all you like the only one that I actually cared about, what happened, right? Oh, wow. I just I mean, I don't really draw this connection like because he's not a drunk. He gets drunk with his dad, but he's not a drunk in the movie like Dad is. But I realized like but he's addicted to women. Yeah, so what did you do? Still there? It's just different, like it's rearing its head a different way. But it's there. Yeah, Dan. Dr Phil moment for the night, folks. Um And then, uh, let's see. There's a really intense scene. It's like at the wedding with a dad, like who can't pull it together to go inside. It's raining, and he has some kind of, like heart to heart with his son in a way, almost. And then, like, uh, Paul's character finally gets toe spoiler alert. I mean, maybe I don't say the whole thing. I don't know. Maybe I don't tell them the end. Like we've told him most of the plot that maybe I did. Maybe I just stop and say, like, it's, um kind of undiscovered, Jim, Like you got heartbreak, romance, redemption, and it's got a great cast.

spk_2:   19:57
Yeah, I've never heard of this movie before. You suggested it at all?

spk_0:   20:01
Yeah, that's a guy, David. I was starting to research. What? The bad room,

spk_2:   20:04
please. We're gonna

spk_0:   20:05
be And I was like, Yeah, we could, like, watch our old favorites, But, like, what if we found some things we had never come across, and this is one of them? I'm like, holy crap. Like, how did I miss this? movie thing

spk_2:   20:17
we're visits. This feels like a movie that I would have watched on, like a Sunday afternoon on Showtime or something. I mean, it's just, um the I love watching movies from their eighties or nineties that I just haven't seen. Um, you know, just because, ah, I get to watch it through a different lens than it being contemporary. Um, I know I also kind of thought that it's interesting that I mean most of the characters in the movie, with the exception of maybe the, you know, the Children and the ex wife. Everybody's kind of an asshole. I mean, if you really break it down. Our protagonist, Ah, Jeff Daniels, he's not a good guy. When you really break it down, I mean, he he's charming because Jeff Daniels was playing him. But, um, he's really kind of an asshole. I mean, very, you know,

spk_0:   21:05
they walk the line like they're doing was like a really touchy subject and handled the wrong way. You would just hate the main character,

spk_2:   21:13
right? I mean, he's charming, he's likeable, so you kind of get away with it. But I mean, um, what you were saying about how they project are you know, I wouldn't say the movies per se subtle, but I mean, this movie does feed you a lot of information pretty fast, like either either catch up or, you know, we're gonna bypass. You mean in the first what, 5 to 10 minutes, you know, already learned that he's, ah, womanizer, because, ah, he's sleeping with the woman who's guy comes home, he walks in the house and you realize, you know, he's got the divorce papers. So you know where that's going. I mean, ah, it just, you know, keeps it moving along pretty fat, you know, just keeps chugging along and catch up or no, um,

spk_0:   21:54
you act like movies with this, Like where you take the perspective of the character that you would think would be the antagonised or somebody that causes the problem in a movie. Because

spk_2:   22:04
I hate to say it, but, like, they're all people, too. Yeah. I mean, like I said, that's why you know, you kind of like him because Jeff Daniels makes him a likeable character. But, I mean, he's really an asshole. I mean, he's a person who, like yells at his kids and his wife are ex wife. Um, you know, he's rarely in the right.

spk_0:   22:23
Let me hear your daughter's attention. Yeah, E you're trying to cover up for how much money she stole from her brother and her mom. But then, like, he did admit that like, Well, yeah, I gave her $5 because I wanted to have a 20 minute conversation with her while she was watching MTV Music Video.

spk_2:   22:37
Right? Um, you know, the the fault. The grant, the grandfather Boomer, which made me laugh, Because how many times they see Boomer in this And of course, everybody that lets a term

spk_0:   22:49
Okay, But I just want to say that we always have a link to watch the movie. So being influencers well, influence, there's at least within the podcast face. We've got a thing going with Amazon right now, So hopefully you're a fan of prime. I have said in the past that I don't like there player widget, but, hey, this is a direct link to the movie we're talking about, so it's not so bad. You click it and watch it. That's kind of how the deal works.

spk_2:   23:18
Google doesn't need to give you this right Google tell me, had to pay for it until I had to find it that it was available for free on Prime. I almost paid for it.

spk_0:   23:27
Well, I mean, technically you are. If you have a prime membership, it just covers all the movies you watch, you know well, which is good for a big Walker. Like, if you can't save money on movies, you'll blow your load is a binge. Watcher will be watching too many movies, though I mean the struggle. Really, for someone who watches a lot of movies, is what subscriptions to have at any given time, this

spk_1:   23:49
way.